Is it the 3-4 Defensive Scheme?

[mrhotdice]

Are these kids just that bad or slow or dumb to play this defense?

Something is wrong when any 300 pound lineman can't hold his own in a one on one situation. Elam is useless at nose tackle in the 3-4 under Stoops. Like many on here, I am no coach but defense is easy to understand if your goal is stop the run.

Just watch the game. Look at the technique these DL use. It does nothing but make blocking easier. 5 blocking 3 creates a double team and that appears were the runners gain big yards.

When your LBs never fill a hole, this defense is predicatable and easy to play against.

 

[UKfan2151]

Louisville also plays a 3-4 defense with recruits that are about on par (if not worse) than what we've been getting, yet they seem to be doing okay. I think it all boils down to coaching. Stoops had always been a 4-3 guy until he came here. I sometimes wonder if he truly understands how to implement this defense. The technique the players use is beyond terrible. Obviously our DL and LB are not on par with Alabama. But damn, they should not be THIS BAD. Something is seriously amiss and all indications point toward coaching.

 

[Mikey Likes It]

No it's linebackers hitting the wrong gaps. Players trying to do other people's jobs. The defensive line getting no push and a general lack of aggression imo. The few times we sent blitzes they were way to late getting of their blocks or going around them. Well that and guys missing tackles even when they are in position. Just my opinion but I'd rather get burned trying to create disruption in the backfield than be slowly picked apart playing reactively.

Lots of people here like to blame Elam because he was highly rated and he's a name we know and it would be nice if he was blowing up plays but really the staff just wants him to occupy as many blockers as possible to keep the linebackers clean.

 

[gamecockcat]

On several plays, NMSU had a trips formation and we only had 5 in the box against 6 blockers. That's a bad scheme. How come I can recognize that fact without ever coaching a down at any level burnout coaches can't?

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

It's the coaching. Period.

 

[UKinSC_rivals383602]

3/4 will not work unless you have elite pass rusher(s) with no push and no pass rush, D may as well just stay on the sidelines

 

[pauled#1]

Elam should have played O-tackle, he will never be a great defensive player. He plays to high and gets no push at all. No doubt they promised him the nose guard position but he should be at right tackle helping the offense!

 

[Stenchymouse]

Elam should have played O-tackle, he will never be a great defensive player. He plays to high and gets no push at all. No doubt they promised him the nose guard position but he should be at right tackle helping the offense!

I agree with this...

I at least SEEMS like he'd make a good offensive tackle.

 

[TBCat]

Are these kids just that bad or slow or dumb to play this defense?

Something is wrong when any 300 pound lineman can't hold his own in a one on one situation. Elam is useless at nose tackle in the 3-4 under Stoops. Like many on here, I am no coach but defense is easy to understand if your goal is stop the run.

Just watch the game. Look at the technique these DL use. It does nothing but make blocking easier. 5 blocking 3 creates a double team and that appears were the runners gain big yards.

When your LBs never fill a hole, this defense is predicatable and easy to play against.

No. I actually like the 3-4. I do believe we don't play it right. This is looking more like the old Mike Archer 3-4. Play passive and stay back in a zone. The great thing about a 3-4 is that it is the best defense to play for athletes. We have recruited athletes. However we don't let these hybrid style players play that way. We are never attacking. We never mix up the looks. We seem to play that generic set the whole game. 3 man front with the Jack on the LOS as well and everyone else in their cover 3 zone. The advantage of a 3-4 is that the offense isn't supposed to know where the pressure is coming from. But we don't really use it that way.

Also the main issue with our defense is just really poor discipline. I actually thought each individual defender did a good job at beating his blocker. However they just didn't make the play. Our LBs seemed to never stay in their lanes. And our secondary is almost always lost. I honestly don't know how that happens. It really looks like all of our DBs don't actually know the coverages and they are just fee lancing out there.

 

[BlueRunner11]

No, it's Stoops. These guys have about as much faith in him as we do and the result is very uninspired play out there.

 

[Glenn Fohr]

the 3-4 works if you have three great defensive tackles who eat up blockers on the line along with two inside backers who know their gaps and can run. then you need two outside linebackers that can both cover in space and rush the passer. We don't have the three great dt's, we have one inside backer who is great but outruns everything and then we have two outside backers, one is a tweener(Ware) who can rush the passer but can't cover and isn't big enough to play hand in the dirt and the other olb, Allen, is still learning to play lb. ???

 

[docholiday51]

We don't seem to be suited to the 3-4 all that well but I have another question.It appears to me that we are having difficulty identifying who should be on the field at certain positions.I realize that we were playing a bad team yesterday but some 2nd and 3rd stringers looked as good as starters.Do the coaches have that much of a problem trying to figure out who to put on the field.Did the true frosh Carter play yesterday? The defense isn't good and is probably not going to be good but are there people on the sidelines that could make it better?

 

[BIGBLUEQ]

No it's linebackers hitting the wrong gaps. Players trying to do other people's jobs. The defensive line getting no push and a general lack of aggression imo. The few times we sent blitzes they were way to late getting of their blocks or going around them. Well that and guys missing tackles even when they are in position. Just my opinion but I'd rather get burned trying to create disruption in the backfield than be slowly picked apart playing reactively.

Lots of people here like to blame Elam because he was highly rated and he's a name we know and it would be nice if he was blowing up plays but really the staff just wants him to occupy as many blockers as possible to keep the linebackers clean.

The problem is that Elam isn't doing that job either, he hasn't been active and disruptive enough to require a double team. However, I was impressed with Pringle last night with his explosiveness and aggressiveness, albeit against NMSU, however, he did occupy two blockers on almost every snap he played.

 

[Glenn Fohr]

Pringle should play, a lot!

 

[Mr Schwump]

We don't seem to be suited to the 3-4 all that well but I have another question.It appears to me that we are having difficulty identifying who should be on the field at certain positions.I realize that we were playing a bad team yesterday but some 2nd and 3rd stringers looked as good as starters.Do the coaches have that much of a problem trying to figure out who to put on the field.Did the true frosh Carter play yesterday? The defense isn't good and is probably not going to be good but are there people on the sidelines that could make it better?

Carter played, had a couple of tackles. I ask my weekly question...where's Kengera Daniel?

 

[MulletCat]

Elam should have played O-tackle, he will never be a great defensive player. He plays to high and gets no push at all. No doubt they promised him the nose guard position but he should be at right tackle helping the offense!

I agree .If He has the footwork I think He should redshirt and try to make the switch. I just don't see a future at DT for him with the way He currently plays at the position

 

[docholiday51]

Carter played, had a couple of tackles. I ask my weekly question...where's Kengera Daniel?

What do you make of this,are there players on the sidelines that could help us? Why do the coaches have so much trouble being able to identify them?