I know this is a baseball subject but I wanted to at least start the thread here because of higher exposure. Interesting baseball article today.
So, is Tim Raines going to get into the baseball hall of fame? I think he should be in. But according to advanced stats it's going to be close. Griffey Jr. is a lock. It is looking good for Piazza. Then it gets closer with Bagwell and Raines.
Piazza is especially interesting because he was suspected of steroid use although not directly linked. He was never in an investigation and denies ever dabbling in it. His name was not included among the 89 names in the George Mitchell report on PED use in baseball. No personal trainers have accused him of use either. Should he get in?
I agree with the author of the article in that "if Piazza does get in, the door barring suspected performance-enhancing drug users will be torn off its hinges." Seems as if McGwire and Bonds are trending up too. Look for all of those guys to get in if Piazza makes it.
I don't think it's a matter of if, as much as it is a matter of when for all of the "steroid boys" to get in. Many of the older voters have been replaced this year by younger voters. The total is around 450 ballots. Our society has been lowering standards, qualifications and has seen a big drop in morality in the last 25 years and especially in the last seven or eight, so this really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The atmosphere that has been created is right for this to happen...and it will.
My feeling on the "steroid users" is this. They should be kept out of the HOF. BUT, if they are let in, then use of PEDs should become legal for all ballplayers going forward. To me, it's the height of hypocrisy to let players in who we know for sure did use PEDs to inflate performance and numbers, but keep others from using them to enhance their performances as well. Can you see where I am going with this?
Same for Rose. If you let him in knowing he bet on baseball as a manager and player then make it legal for players to gamble on games. The rule means nothing if it isn't enforced.
So, is Tim Raines going to get into the baseball hall of fame? I think he should be in. But according to advanced stats it's going to be close. Griffey Jr. is a lock. It is looking good for Piazza. Then it gets closer with Bagwell and Raines.
Piazza is especially interesting because he was suspected of steroid use although not directly linked. He was never in an investigation and denies ever dabbling in it. His name was not included among the 89 names in the George Mitchell report on PED use in baseball. No personal trainers have accused him of use either. Should he get in?
I agree with the author of the article in that "if Piazza does get in, the door barring suspected performance-enhancing drug users will be torn off its hinges." Seems as if McGwire and Bonds are trending up too. Look for all of those guys to get in if Piazza makes it.
I don't think it's a matter of if, as much as it is a matter of when for all of the "steroid boys" to get in. Many of the older voters have been replaced this year by younger voters. The total is around 450 ballots. Our society has been lowering standards, qualifications and has seen a big drop in morality in the last 25 years and especially in the last seven or eight, so this really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The atmosphere that has been created is right for this to happen...and it will.
My feeling on the "steroid users" is this. They should be kept out of the HOF. BUT, if they are let in, then use of PEDs should become legal for all ballplayers going forward. To me, it's the height of hypocrisy to let players in who we know for sure did use PEDs to inflate performance and numbers, but keep others from using them to enhance their performances as well. Can you see where I am going with this?
Same for Rose. If you let him in knowing he bet on baseball as a manager and player then make it legal for players to gamble on games. The rule means nothing if it isn't enforced.
