Is this a lack of respect or truth?
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Anonymous quotes are usually bogus. First off, “Big 12 coaches” is not a person so how is it possible to quote him/it/them? It might be a summation of what several coaches said but that’s not a quote. It could be what one individual coach said but opposing coaches seldom say things like that even if they believe it because it can come back to bite them. More likely it’s just some pseudo journalist trying to get attention.
We had 5 wins, 4 of them against P5 competition and 7 losses. None of those wins came against anyone particularly good, and the fact that two of those wins were from teams that came from the same state means nothing. The body of work was ****, that’s all that matters.
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Either way, this negative press only helps Brown. If this becomes the wide spread notion, any modicum of success will be viewed more favorablely by comparison.
It just sucks that we tied this mill stone around our own necks and now are just a lane duck program with our only hope being a miracle
OU still went to a Bowl Game last year. Course any team that's 6-6 makes a bowl.
I don't give a ****. A win over OU and Oklahoms State is a big deal. Especially as crappy as Brown teams have been.
Brown will be gone soon enough and I think he knows this could be his last chance.
Sadly its not really wrong. Whether it's a real quote from a B12 coach is debatable, but the fact remains you cant really prove any of that wrong. We suck and its the worse we have sucked, maybe in the history of the program. Bowtie and Asslop just weren't the right folks to handle any of the situation, so we are stuck with the **** show this year. Baker is hopefully doing his new coach homework already, getting ready for the future.
Pffft lol. You are Neal himself aren't you? Our OL has been the weakest link Neal's entire time here. They were supposed to be the strength of the team last season. That didnt work out or even close. They could average 350 and they would still be one of the worst OL's in the B12.... because our OL coach sucks amazingly bad and there is no way to even spin it in a positive light. They have been nothing but pure suck since he took over.
I’d give those two wins back if it meant we go for that 4th and short that would have likely ended the Pitt game when we were running it down their throat all night.
With all the negative predictions, what this allows for is for an unpredictable season where we end up winning 8 games, and then the pressure is on to extend Brown for 4 more years. The likelihood that we would win 8 games isn't high, but remember the 1992 team? They were 5-4-2. And what happened in 1993?????
The 4th and 1 (wasn't a yard, more than 1 FOOT) will forever be in my mind when thinking about Neal Brown. And that includes if he were to lead us to a 12-0 regular season. I doesn't matter. I will always remember that moment. It proved a lot of things to me about his thought process and understanding. Too much about "analytics" and not enough about gut.
the article states really small..that was simply a lie..and whatever idiot wrote it is just as bad as the idiots who want to believe it
Well, if you are looking to actually debunk this tweet, in order to know if what the supposed B12 coach comments are true, you would have to measure the size of the entire team, and compare it to older WVU teams. The tweet didnt not even mention the OL but the stat you posted only had to do with OL. So your post is worthless the way it is. It would be nice to know the actual truth, so why dont you just go ahead and do it for every position and compare with older teams and do a breakdown so we can debunk the dude or not.
Stop Pitt on their drive from their own 5 or don't turn the ball over for game winning interception. Don't make dumbass out of bounds targetting hit on 3rd down and Pitt is punting. You wouldn't even be thinking about that 4th down.
Perhaps they fumble after getting a first down or perhaps they don't make it. You have no idea what would happen the rest of the game. That 4th down wasn't the only reason that game was lost.
They look like a MAC team toughness wise, or more like a high school team under your dad Neal tbh...
Frazier is the toughest player on the field no matter who we play..he hasn't allowed a sack in his career..you seem to want WVU to fail for some reason..I don't care if Karl Childers is coach..these guys and their families commited to WVU and I have their backs
Analytically speaking, the odds of getting a 4th and a foot on a night you have averaged like 6 ypc if memory serves, are much better than stopping an offense who has had a good game in 4 down territory.
You are correct. Analytics were practically even at best on that play if not outright favoring going for it. Giving the benefit of the doubt and saying it was even, Brown chose to be reactionary to Pitt rather than making them react to him. Weak mindset
Also the problem with analytics is they do not account for unforced errors. Pitt had ovee half a dozen 20+ yard gains and 2 TD's they missed out on due to dropped balls or egregiously inaccurate throws. Those plays had nothing to do with WVU's defense. If you account for half of them being converted the analysis should tell you that giving Pitt the ball back is more dangerous than going for the win right there.
Nope. But it was the biggest call of the game needed to be made by our head coach who chose to punt.
Play could have been a fumble on 4th an inches. Might have gotten first down then turned it over on the next play.
Game tied and you the ball last and driving down field and throw a game winning int for a TD.
You have no idea what happens on 4th down or the following downs analytically or not.
Yeah that makes sense. I am not happy with all the losing and want a better coach, and that is a sign that I want WVU to fail in your pea brain lol. That is funny. I would say you are the one who wants WVU to fail though. You dont seem to care how we have become a laughing stock in the college football world after a long time be being considered a top 25 team. You are like the Joe Biden of football fandom..... nothing to see here folks!
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Yes I do and I will deal with it just fine. I am allowed to get on a message board and talk smack on Neal Brown. You really need to grow up and deal with it.
Do you really want what’s best for the players? Really??
Then advocate for them to get a better coach that can put them in a position to succeed!
That is the definition of a leader. The only person involved that he has put into a position to succeed is himself financially.