Is This What the 1960's Looked Like?

FltDoc

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For anyone old enough to remember, is this what the 60's looked like? All of the chaos, craziness with politics and social norms...

Seems many things are turned upside down... doesn't make sense to me.
 

JumperJack

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I disagree. Vietnam was the catalyst and when it ended normalcy returned for the most part. Racial issues were still prevalent but nowhere did you see growing Marxist anarchy. Democrats then were far to the right of where Republicans are now.

Ask yourself what happens if the marxists win the congress and presidency. There will be war of some kind eventually.
 

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One big difference is that while they had mass protests in the 60s the law enforcement back then didn't f around. Some of the protests back then were bigger and even more radical then you see now. You just didn't have local and state politicians getting on their knees and bowing before them like you do know. Read up on the 1968 Democrat Convention. Mayor Daley declared war against the protest and cracked skulls. It was so violent and ugly. That is one big difference.
 

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As a follow up, it finally took the Kent St. shootings for the government to finally say "oh ****" and really start to take action in withdrawing from SE Asia.
 
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JumperJack

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So what’s the exit strategy on these protests? Concede the constitution?

There no way out that I can see that doesn’t involve violence or division. I would be perfectly content at this point to let big cities secede. I’m not sure what they offer that can’t be replicated elsewhere.
 

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Not suggesting it will happen, but if placed on a scale, we are closer to Civil War again now than anytime since our last Civil War. There’s a growing number of people living in the U.S. that simply don’t like America and essentially want It to go away.
I think it's inevitable. The extremists in both parties are pulling people further apart. Im still saying they'll be violence after the election results are known.
 
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Oh, we ain’t touched the 60’s, yet!!

Fact! Not even close. Right now we have been dealing with a pandemic and protests for a few months. Back then it was the entire decade of war protests, civil rights movement, women’s lib movement, sexual revolution, multiple assassinations of political leaders and civil rights leaders, the rise of the drug culture, and on, and on.
 

docholiday51

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Closer to the 1860s than the 1960s. The paddock regulars will blame the liberals. The liberals will blame the right wingers. Both are to blame and until they can see the other sides actions in themselves we are all screwed.
I believe the majority of people in the US are in the middle ground but they have no voice in Washington,the media won't acknowledge they even exist and unless they find a way to to say enough is enough (and be heard) there is a problem.
 
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P19978

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I think it's inevitable. The extremists in both parties are pulling people further apart. Im still saying they'll be violence after the election results are known.
Not picking on you... a question for anyone.

Who are these "right wing extremists"?

People that believe in the Constitution and Rule of Law? People that are against the murder of 50 million Americans? People that want a semblance of fiscal responsibility?

If those things are the thoughts of "right wing extremists" then I need to get out of this country.
 

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Not picking on you... a question for anyone.

Who are these "right wing extremists"?

People that believe in the Constitution and Rule of Law? People that are against the murder of 50 million Americans? People that want a semblance of fiscal responsibility?

If those things are the thoughts of "right wing extremists" then I need to get out of this country.
What fifty million are you referring to?
 
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Not suggesting it will happen, but if placed on a scale, we are closer to Civil War again now than anytime since our last Civil War. There’s a growing number of people living in the U.S. that simply don’t like America and essentially want It to go away.

On the right and the left
 

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It’s close. The national division is worse.
There is no compromise or endgame.

Dangerous times.

I am amazed, dumbfounded, saddened, sickened at how "unimpressive" our elected officials are at both the local and national levels.

Am not necessarily talking about the ones you see on the news regularly (some are there), but the everyday folks who are charged with our well-being--they are unintelligent, amoral, shallow thinkers who were somehow elected into power positions..

DO NOT want to make this into a political discussion; i.e. calling out specific persons, but rather wonder how did we get to this point? Was it always like this? Have our social re-engineering projects from the last century led us to this inevitable moment; i.e. no sense of personal responsibility/expecting big government to bail out every dissatisfied group, etc. to the point that low-intelligence politicians can pander to large groups and win the day...

See below video (it's older, but just as relevant....)
 
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docholiday51

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I am amazed, dumbfounded, saddened, sickened at how "unimpressive" our elected officials are at both the local and national levels.

Am not necessarily talking about the ones you see on the news regularly (some are there), but the everyday folks who are charged with our well-being--they are unintelligent, amoral, shallow thinkers who were somehow elected into power positions..

DO NOT want to make this into a political discussion; i.e. calling out specific persons, but rather wonder how did we get to this point? Was it always like this? Have our social re-engineering projects from the last century led us to this inevitable moment; i.e. no sense of personal responsibility/expecting big government to bail out every dissatisfied group, etc. to the point that low-intelligence politicians can pander to large groups and win the day...
I think it is a combination of things;

1.We have more information about elected officials as people than ever before

2.Media uses this information to credit/discredit them to suit the media agenda

3.We see the underside of the election process,office seekers only smear their opponents,they spend little time telling us what they will do or what they support

4.Many who would make good ,decent and effective leaders want no part of the process at any level
 
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I disagree. Vietnam was the catalyst and when it ended normalcy returned for the most part. Racial issues were still prevalent but nowhere did you see growing Marxist anarchy. Democrats then were far to the right of where Republicans are now.

Ask yourself what happens if the marxists win the congress and presidency. There will be war of some kind eventually.

"They're Marxist" was a common attack on the civil rights movement, and MLK was basically what we'd now call a Democratic Socialist. His politics, along with many in the civil rights movement, aligned with people like Bernie and AOC. The civil rights movement and its leaders were looked on negatively by the population at large, people did not view it as a benign peaceful movement but a bunch of anarchist rabble rousers, and just like today the riots that took place defined it in the popular discourse for a great many people. Only because of our whitewashed history books could you possibly make the statement you just made.
 
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I believe the majority of people in the US are in the middle ground but they have no voice in Washington,the media won't acknowledge they even exist and unless they find a way to to say enough is enough (and be heard) there is a problem.

The real problem is there is no fictional moderate majority who agree on some reasonable set of compromises (lol) on controversial issues. That’s a delusion that DC wants you to believe, you just need to elect the right people and then the bureaucrats in DC will be able to fix it all.

The real answer is to give your states back their autonomy so people can be free to live in a state that promotes their own values. Instead, the federal government is not willing to relax their grip.
 
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Not picking on you... a question for anyone.

Who are these "right wing extremists"?

People that believe in the Constitution and Rule of Law? People that are against the murder of 50 million Americans? People that want a semblance of fiscal responsibility?

If those things are the thoughts of "right wing extremists" then I need to get out of this country.
I don't like abortion. I don't cheer for them. I think all possibilities should be exhausted before doing it. But I vehemently believe the damn government has no business in telling people what they can do with their bodies. And most are not kids. Acting like they take them out at 9 months and murder them.

Are you really going to ask what right wing extremists there are?

Fiscal responsibility? With Trump in the white house? Have you seen what he's racking up?

Not trying to be a dick bro. I know you directed that at everyone. Im not a Democrat, I'm independent.
 

P19978

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I don't like abortion. I don't cheer for them. I think all possibilities should be exhausted before doing it. But I vehemently believe the damn government has no business in telling people what they can do with their bodies. And most are not kids. Acting like they take them out at 9 months and murder them.

Are you really going to ask what right wing extremists there are?

Fiscal responsibility? With Trump in the white house? Have you seen what he's racking up?

Not trying to be a dick bro. I know you directed that at everyone. Im not a Democrat, I'm independent.
Yeah... let's see your list of right wing extremists... and then I'm gonna compare them with the left.

So yeah, let's see 'em... bro.
 

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So what’s the exit strategy on these protests? Concede the constitution?

There no way out that I can see that doesn’t involve violence or division. I would be perfectly content at this point to let big cities secede. I’m not sure what they offer that can’t be replicated elsewhere.
LMAO ... dude, you live in a seriously paranoid and delusional existence. That's not even close to the world I live in. Built your bunker yet? [roll]