Is This What the 1960's Looked Like?

[chroix]

War is a historical and ever present reality because people can't agree, primarily can't agree on resources.

So then the answer, as proposed here, is not just socialism for us, but socialism for the rest of the world too. We should give 90% of your wealth, and mine, and every other Westerner or Asian Tiger citizen and give it all out to exploited south americans, africans, and Asians and be done with it.

Where would that leave us? In a better world, a more prosperous world?

Obviously not. The same would be said for the microcosm of that confined to our own national borders, except it would only make the US weaker while our enemies grew stronger.

You (us) don't really realize how rich you are and why. It would take 3 Earths for everyone to live as well as the average US citizen lives currently.

Im not advocating for a position. Just asking for clarification on the other posters statement that I quoted.

I’ve been in some places that most people haven’t and realize how good we’ve got it here. The world is a complex mechanism and I agree about a lot of what you wrote. Glad you made it here.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

It’s imminently reasonable to say both sides are sufficiently angry to think we’ll have violence no matter who loses the election. I’d point out, though, that we are seeing violence on the left - that’s been real for several weeks. Widespread violence from the right is theoretical at this point.

I was 3 years old when the 60s ended, so I can’t answer the original question. I’ve always been fascinated by that period of time - and how we went from buzz cuts, khakis and Leave It to Beaver in ‘63 to tie-dye, LSD, the Black Panthers and the Summer of Love in ‘67. And now, we have another version of that.....

 

[JumperJack]

That then, and now, there were hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters, there were riots, there was violence, there were people across the political spectrum, and there were absolutely Marxists then as there are now. But whether someone is a "Marxist," a Communist, a Socialist, none of those, a Christian, an Atheist, whatever else, it has no bearing on a specific change or cause or policy being advocated for. Whether the people saying "we need police reform and these are the specific ways we can accomplish it," or "we should have government policies to abolish poverty" are what you consider a Marxist or not is irrelevant.

That is quite a pivot. The problem is that many, many of the “peaceful” protestors are openly Marxist.

I would have no fear of a group of Christians, or Atheists, marching and protesting. Their endgame, by definition, doesn’t involve violence.

Marxists, by definition, have an endgame that envisions the end of democracy, individualism, liberty, and the Enlightenment.

You cannot possibly pretend that it’s all the same.

 

[JumperJack]

Which side endorses non violence? They all vote to kill tons of people every year. We’ve been at war for all but like 20 years of our country’s existence. Non violence is only for the people who aren’t in power.

Conflating domestic protest with war takes this to a different level and I can’t answer that.

What I do know is that in the 60’s, protestors challenged America to live out the true meaning of its’ creed.

Now, “protestors” want to destroy America. In which case, sane people would term them domestic enemies.

There’s no doubt we live in worse times.

 

[docholiday51]

MLK advocated for social change that was greatly needed in that time,the country is better because he did.
He was also like some of us a womanizing skirt chaser.Some of the clowns of today don't have enough sense to do either

 

[TheEgyptianMagician]

The 60s was at its core an American movement with some extremists mixed in.

This is at it's core an extremist movement, with some good Americans mixed in.

It's not a distinction without a difference. Instead of starting from a blm foundation everone agreed with yesterday, you substitute a BLM one which no one with any sense should agree with, stopping any real discussion of what should be done to help disadvantaged communities. It's not as simple as government policy can stop poverty, we can defund the police and that will fix all vestiges of racism, things will be better... if/when crime skyrockets like it's doing now in these incompetently run cities, you ruin people's lives and livelihoods when businesses flee due to the chaos and disorder your good intentions created, amplifying the problems of poverty, violence and the need for more policing.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

 

[FltDoc]

that would take some serious planning for the future and sitting patiently for the plan to evolve....(nope, not in this country...)