Is Virginia our 2 seed now?

[dnabbott25]

Virginia has now lost twice this week. I think since Villanova held on for the win. And assuming Wisconsin and Nova win out,
1)Kentucky
1)Duke
1) Villanova
1) Wisconsin

Virginia is now a 2, I think. And they cant go to the South with Duke, so looks like they will be our 2. Thoughts?

 

[ok-cats-computer]

Why can't Va be a 2 seed in the south with Duke as the 1 seed? Is there a rule against having a 1 and 2 seed from the same conference in the same region?

This post was edited on 3/13 9:26 PM by ok-cats-computer

 

[BourbonBalz]

In that scenario, we SHOULD get Gonzaga or Kansas/Maryland. We probably won't, but we should.

 

[Wildcats4ever2007]

In that case wouldn't they be the 2 seed in the east bracket?

 

[ukfan606]

They should be the 2 seed in the east

 

[anewfanatic_rivals378140]

No.

 

[deplion_rivals116063]

Seems to me Virginia should be Villanova's #2 seed in the East.

We should get either Kansas or Gonzaga or maybe Maryland as a dark horse.

It all hinges on Wisconsin winning the B10 tourney though.

 

[KYCAT78]

If VA. is a 2 then they will be Villanova's 2.

 

[Goingfor9]

East
Villanova
Virginia

South
Duke
KU

Midwest
UK
Gonzaga

West
Wisconsin
Arizona

 

[deplion_rivals116063]

Originally posted by #1Wildcatfan4life:
In that scenario, we SHOULD get Gonzaga or Kansas/Maryland. We probably won't, but we should.

Great minds.

 

[BourbonBalz]

You would think Wisconsin will now get a 1 seed, assuming they win the Big 10 Tournament. I agree Virginia should be the 2 in the east if they don't get a 1.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

Yes, absolutely they are. They lost to Louisville for Goodness sakes!
Your 1 seeds as of now:
UK
Duke
Nova
Wisconsin

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Originally posted by deplion:
Seems to me Virginia should be Villanova's #2 seed in the East.

We should get either Kansas or Gonzaga or maybe Maryland as a dark horse.

It all hinges on Wisconsin winning the B10 tourney though.

^ this

 

[Runt#1969]

I think it's looking (at least to me) more and more like :

Midwest
1 - UK
2 - KU

East
1 - Nova'
2 - UVA

South
1 - Duke
2 - Gonzaga

West
1 - Wisconsin
2 - Arizona

or maybe swap nova as the 1 seed out west and put Wisconsin as the 1 seed in the east. Personally, I would LOVE to see it the way I have it up top, with Duke, Wisky, and Zona' on the other side of the bracket from UK. (prob'ly why it won't hapen that way !

)

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Why would Nova get the 1 seed in the east over Duke (assuming Duke wins the ACC Tourney)?

I think Duke gets the 1 seed there, and Nova is in the south in Houston and Wisconsin out west if they win their tourney. This assumes Nova wins against probably Georgetown as well.

I hate to break it to you guys, but based on the flawed committee criteria of "rewarding" the top 2 seed with the location closest to its campus...UVA is 100% UK's 2 seed.

 

[fs-ripcord65]

That would suit me fine. U.Va. is vastly overrated.

Just MHO, of course.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
Why would Nova get the 1 seed in the east over Duke (assuming Duke wins the ACC Tourney)?

I think Duke gets the 1 seed there, and Nova is in the south in Houston and Wisconsin out west if they win their tourney. This assumes Nova wins against probably Georgetown as well.

I hate to break it to you guys, but based on the flawed committee criteria of "rewarding" the top 2 seed with the location closest to its campus...UVA is 100% UK's 2 seed.

Geographically speaking:

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania = East
Durham, North Carolina = South

 

[kyjeff1]

doesn't matter anyway, if UVA plays like they did today they don't have a shot at UK anyway. I'm sure Justin Anderson will be fully healed by the time they would ever lock horns with UK but I feel like the damage is done with UVA. Their chemistry is off now.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Duke is now the 1 seed in the East, unless they lose.

Nova was projected as the last 1 seed, so why would they jump Duke and move into the second overall spot?

Durham is much closer to Syracuse than Houston.

Midwest- UK
East- Duke
South- Nova
West- UVA or UW

If UW wins out, you would think they would grab the last one spot, but who knows? A lot of the talking heads believe that UVA is still a lock for a 1 seed regardless of what happened tonight.

 

[ukalum_rivals311718]

Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:
Why can't Va be a 2 seed in the south with Duke as the 1 seed? Is there a rule against having a 1 and 2 seed from the same conference in the same region?


This post was edited on 3/13 9:26 PM by ok-cats-computer

Yes, there is a rule against it.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Originally posted by bucsrule8872:
Duke is now the 1 seed in the East, unless they lose.

Nova was projected as the last 1 seed, so why would they jump Duke and move into the second overall spot?

Durham is much closer to Syracuse than Houston.

Midwest- UK
East- Duke
South- Nova
West- UVA or UW

If UW wins out, you would think they would grab the last one spot, but who knows? A lot of the talking heads believe that UVA is still a lock for a 1 seed regardless of what happened tonight.

This. I'm not sure why people are having issues with this...now that we know the committee is idiotically going all by geography for the 1s, 2s, 3s, etc, it is quite easy to project who UK is getting UNLESS Nova was to drop from the 1 line....which would have been/would be ideal for FAIRNESS sake. I doubt that happens now as they had their close shave with a loss tonight.

UVA is starting to be exposed more and more anyways so not like they are some great team. The crap thing is if we get UVA s our 2, Wisconsin is the 1 in the west along with Arizona as the 2...look at what Duke gets on their side...Villanova, Gonzaga and KU. Yeah, sounds like a Duke path.

 

[dnabbott25]

Geography, that's why.

Virginia is closer to Cleveland, than it is Syracuse.

AND

Kansas is closer to Houston than it is Cleveland

Villanova is closer to Syracuse than Duke is.

So, it is a FACT:

Kentucky gets the Midwest
Duke gets the south
Villanova gets the East


and assuming that Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Gonzaga are the 2 seeds, Kansas has to go to the south with Duke, and Virginia has to go to the Midwest.

BUT heres where it gets insane....IF Arizona gets the 1 seed over Wisconsin. Now, Wisconsin will be Kentuckys 2, Virginia will be Novas 2, Gonzaga will be Arizona 2. But no matter how you dice it, Kansas will be Dukes 2.

 

[LineSkiCat]

Seeding has me

 

[basedhoop]

No, Virginia definitely still a 1-seed. Regular Season Champions in the toughest conference and three very close losses, pushing each team to the wire. Probably be out west now though.

 

[dnabbott25]

Originally posted by basedhoop:
No, Virginia definitely still a 1-seed. Regular Season Champions in the toughest conference and three very close losses, pushing each team to the wire. Probably be out west now though.

Wrong. Joey Brackets just now said they are the LOWEST 1 seed now. AND if Wisonsin and Arizona win out, it will change and one of them will get it,

 

[CatChow]

I sure as hell hope they are after that game.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Originally posted by Tyblue22:

Originally posted by basedhoop:
No, Virginia definitely still a 1-seed. Regular Season Champions in the toughest conference and three very close losses, pushing each team to the wire. Probably be out west now though.

Wrong. Joey Brackets just now said they are the LOWEST 1 seed now. AND if Wisonsin and Arizona win out, it will change and one of them will get it,

In that case it is Wisconsin and not really close due to the fact Arizona as a 2 out west hurts them none, but Arizona as a 1 could mean Wisconsin in UK's bracket. The committee is chuckling right now...they have everyone hammering them about screwing UK and Wisconsin. Instead they are going to screw UK and UVA and STILL GIVE UK THE TOUGHEST TWO SEED!

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Originally posted by Tyblue22:
Geography, that's why.

Virginia is closer to Cleveland, than it is Syracuse.

AND

Kansas is closer to Houston than it is Cleveland

Villanova is closer to Syracuse than Duke is.

So, it is a FACT:

Kentucky gets the Midwest
Duke gets the south
Villanova gets the East


and assuming that Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Gonzaga are the 2 seeds, Kansas has to go to the south with Duke, and Virginia has to go to the Midwest.

BUT heres where it gets insane....IF Arizona gets the 1 seed over Wisconsin. Now, Wisconsin will be Kentuckys 2, Virginia will be Novas 2, Gonzaga will be Arizona 2. But no matter how you dice it, Kansas will be Dukes 2.

Syracuse is 27 minutes farther away than Cleveland from Charlottesville.

Depending on flights or traffic, it's the same distance.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Originally posted by Tyblue22:

Originally posted by basedhoop:
No, Virginia definitely still a 1-seed. Regular Season Champions in the toughest conference and three very close losses, pushing each team to the wire. Probably be out west now though.

Wrong. Joey Brackets just now said they are the LOWEST 1 seed now. AND if Wisonsin and Arizona win out, it will change and one of them will get it,

Yep, the ball is proverbially in wisconsin's court.

 

[dnabbott25]

UKWildcats......you are correct. Dukes side now looks literally like a piece of cake.

looking like Arizona is gonna get the last 1

And remember this guys, Duke is now the #2 ONE seed but that means nothing. The committee will still take ALL of the 1 seeds and place them closest to their school as a FIRST priority. They are NOT sending Villanova to Houston, especially if they win out. At this point guys, if we ASSUME Wisconsin and Arizona win out, there are really only 2/3 possible scenarios for UK region, but the West and east can still change. Honestly, if you really look at it, the committee almost CANT give Wisconsin a 1 seed. Because if they do, they have to go west. Which means Arizona gets the 2, and Gonzaga has to go to the Midwest, and everything is a mess. Its actually starting to look like Arizona is going to get that last 1 seed and then the committee has a decision to make with regards to Kentuckys 2. Why? because this...

.the distance between Wisconsin and Cleveland is very close to the distance between Virginia and Cleveland, So the committee has to decide, which team is LESS deserving, and needs to be sent to Kentucky's region. I think they CANT ignore the fact that Virginia has lost 2 in a row and are not looking good regardless of why. And I think we then get Virginia.

Kentucky / Virginia
Duke / Kansas
Villanova / Wisconsin
Arizona / Gonzaga

OR

Kentucky / Wisconsin
Duke / Kansas
Villanova / Virginia
Arizona / Gonzaga

IF WISONSIN gets the 1....

Kentucky / Gonzaga
Duke / Kansas
Villanova / Virginia
Wisconsin / Arizona

 

[cats4life]

Originally posted by Tyblue22:


.the distance between Wisconsin and Cleveland is very close to the distance between Virginia and Cleveland, So the committee has to decide, which team is LESS deserving, and needs to be sent to Kentucky's region. I think they CANT ignore the fact that Virginia has lost 2 in a row and are not looking good regardless of why. And I think we then get Virginia.

you got it backwards. the higher ranked team stays closer distance wise. if they have wisconsin as the #5 team, they are in the midwest. if they have uvs as the #5 team, they are in the midwest under your scenario.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Originally posted by Tyblue22:
Geography, that's why.

Virginia is closer to Cleveland, than it is Syracuse.

AND

Kansas is closer to Houston than it is Cleveland

Villanova is closer to Syracuse than Duke is.

So, it is a FACT:

Kentucky gets the Midwest
Duke gets the south
Villanova gets the East


and assuming that Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Gonzaga are the 2 seeds, Kansas has to go to the south with Duke, and Virginia has to go to the Midwest.

BUT heres where it gets insane....IF Arizona gets the 1 seed over Wisconsin. Now, Wisconsin will be Kentuckys 2, Virginia will be Novas 2, Gonzaga will be Arizona 2. But no matter how you dice it, Kansas will be Dukes 2.

If Duke is the second 1 seed, they will be in Syracuse, not Houston. Durham is much closer to Syracuse than Houston. That is fact. Nova would have to jump Duke to send Duke to Houston.

They rank each team on each seed line.

1 seeds

1. UK- closest site = Cleveland
2. Duke- closest site = Syracuse (Cleveland already taken)
3. Nova- closest site = Houston (Syracuse and Cleveland already taken)
4. UW (for arguments sake)- remaining site = LA

2 seeds

1. UVA- closest site = Cleveland
2. Zona- closest site = LA
3. Zaga- closest site = Houston (LA already taken)
4. KU- remaining site = Syracuse