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Nitlion1986

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nerfstate said:


Not at all surprising, but will more schools get hit?
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Could be. Perry only works at one school at a time.
Apparently an assistant coach contacting a student athlete about transferring is frowned upon more so than an alum who donates to the wrestling program. Yes, Ski Bunny Bob, I am talking about you.
 
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There is something that does not make sense to me. The NCAA release made a point of saying that Dresser did not know "that Perry’s conversations pertained to recruiting them to more than the Cyclone RTC" which would imply he knew Perry was having conversations. Yet somehow Dresser did not know they were about ISU in spite of the fact he had previously "communicated with an exiting men’s wrestling head coach at another university and expressed interest in recruiting two of that coach’s student-athletes." I find it wholly unbelievable that he did not know, or suspect, what Perry's conversations were about.

And remember this is the same Dresser who inadvertently admitted to breaking an NCAA rule on FRL when he discussed how he arranged the brackets at the last chance open to insure his guys got enough 1 second wins to boost their win percentages to the NCAA qualifying minimum.. Nothing happened to him then either, though the NCAA changed its rules regarding last chance opens.
 
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Wrestleknownothing said:
There is something that does not make sense to me. The NCAA release made a point of saying that Dresser did not know "that Perry’s conversations pertained to recruiting them to more than the Cyclone RTC" which would imply he knew Perry was having conversations. Yet somehow Dresser did not know they were about ISU in spite of the fact he had previously "communicated with an exiting men’s wrestling head coach at another university and expressed interest in recruiting two of that coach’s student-athletes." I find it wholly unbelievable that he did not know, or suspect, what Perry's conversations were about.

And remember this is the same Dresser who inadvertently admitted to breaking an NCAA rule on FRL when he discussed how he arranged the brackets at the last chance open to insure his guys got enough 1 second wins to boost their win percentages to the NCAA qualifying minimum.. Nothing happened to him then either, though the NCAA changed its rules regarding last chance opens.
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The NCAA didn't have the evidence that Dresser knew. And they self imposed so they probably stopped digging and then Dresser retired. The NCAA will take phones . Perry not being an NCAA coach he doesn't legally have to give up his phone.
 
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Corby2 said:
The NCAA didn't have the evidence that Dresser knew. And they self imposed so they probably stopped digging and then Dresser retired. The NCAA will take phones . Perry not being an NCAA coach he doesn't legally have to give up his phone.
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Dresser didn't retire. He got a nominal promotion.
 
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Slumlord Bob playing the role of Kentucky Basketball here.

 
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Tom McAndrew said:
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I think one would have to be pretty naive to think this isn't happening at more programs than not.
vhsalum said:
He ain't wrong. At all.

my boy bobbynic at Iowa
Guerrero at okiest
KD at PSU (he wasn't promising $$$, but definitely has played middle man)
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If KD was doing anything I'd bet it was more to help his guy become the best he can be. KD is bought in 100% to his athletes.
 
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vhsalum said:
Same diff. Still counts.

But I have especial hate for Chris Perry. Just a trash person.
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I’ll confess to not fully understanding, and I don’t take stances without knowing enough.

Is KD a supporter of any school?

Hypothetically, if a parent of a current wrestler at School A talks to the family of a non-portaled wrestler at School B about how B’s wrestler would be welcome at A, is that a violation?
 
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The issue with Perry is the Club pays him a salary. He's at every practice and travels with the team he also recruits. They had to call him a "booster" to punish him. Iowa st thought they found a loophole and the NCAA let them know that won't be tolerated. He's basically a coach no other "boosters" that people have mentioned are actually coaches thats the difference Perry was a coach he sat right behind the bench and would get up and tell them when to throw the brick . It's kinda hard to act like he was not a coach at Iowa st doing what he was doing on a daily basis. Remember Hamiti left KC and went directly to Stillwater after NCAA before he entered the portal Perry was doing this at Oklahoma st as well he just now got caught
 
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PSU Mike said:
I’ll confess to not fully understanding, and I don’t take stances without knowing enough.

Is KD a supporter of any school?

Hypothetically, if a parent of a current wrestler at School A talks to the family of a non-portaled wrestler at School B about how B’s wrestler would be welcome at A, is that a violation?
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Corby2 said:
The issue with Perry is the Club pays him a salary. He's at every practice and travels with the team he also recruits. They had to call him a "booster" to punish him. Iowa st thought they found a loophole and the NCAA let them know that won't be tolerated. He's basically a coach no other "boosters" that people have mentioned are actually coaches thats the difference Perry was a coach he sat right behind the bench and would get up and tell them when to throw the brick . It's kinda hard to act like he was not a coach at Iowa st doing what he was doing on a daily basis. Remember Hamiti left KC and went directly to Stillwater after NCAA before he entered the portal Perry was doing this at Oklahoma st as well he just now got caught
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What Corby said. So while Willie is crying about what other teams are/were doing - he's wrong. Perry/ISU gets hit because the dude is front and center. He coaches in practices, coaches on the sideline.

Willie is just a huge Chris Perry fan, so he's big mad about this. I don't know if Perry had just stayed in the background as an RTC coach if they would have got hit, but it sounds likely.
 
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vhsalum said:
He ain't wrong. At all.

my boy bobbynic at Iowa
Guerrero at okiest
KD at PSU (he wasn't promising $$$, but definitely has played middle man)
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"Playing middleman" is breaking news from the WW2 era.

But if we're counting that: Izzy with Meatchicken and Iowa.
 
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