I think he can dominate at the mid-major level. If anyone is watching, it is clear there are two things keeping him off the court besides the HC. 1) very little outside game where even mid range shots are questionable and 2) subpar defense on active Bigs. A move to his left would help too. The rest of his game was great. His attitude was great. It hurts to have your third or fourth best player voluntarily leave. Was hoping he would stay and lead the team, but this is far from a surprise.At 6-8, Young had a lot of trouble when playing against the bigger centers in the league. His lack of any kind of outside game limited his value in the Big Ten games. Good luck to him. Hunger has more of the outside game that most bigs need these days. Hoping that Nicholson will show the stuff Purple Book Cat has been touting for two years!
That is the problem in a nutshellNo biggie. Just one of our two best players leaving. We’ll be fine.
When did Young shrink by 2 inches?At 6-8, Young had a lot of trouble when playing against the bigger centers in the league. His lack of any kind of outside game limited his value in the Big Ten games. Good luck to him. Hunger has more of the outside game that most bigs need these days. Hoping that Nicholson will show the stuff Purple Book Cat has been touting for two years!
That would be all too familiar following the precedent set by our football program.I'd be willing to bet Brey or a member of his staff have already contacted Young.
He better, they are losing a lot.I'd be willing to bet Brey or a member of his staff have already contacted Young.
And maybe it’s just a simple matter of, this program is a mess.
I think it’s a even worse than that. There’s a chance Collins told him he’d play 30 minutes next year. And still, Young had little interest in spending time setting screens at the 3 pt line. Over and over again.It is.
Why waste your last (or final two) season(s) at a lost cause?
Especially when the guy in charge has demonstrated an unwillingness to give you the minutes that your play indicates you deserve.
This. All day. Team was drowning and the idiot at the helm refused to try something else. Everyone - the announcers, us, probably the team - saw it wasn’t working. Yet that idiot wouldn’t budge.It is.
Why waste your last (or final two) season(s) at a lost cause?
Especially when the guy in charge has demonstrated an unwillingness to give you the minutes that your play indicates you deserve.
NU deserves this in spades. Make the changes in all phases to compete or continue to be irrelevant. Choice appears to have been made. Ticket revenue will sink in both hoops and football next year. Neither team will be competitive.That would be all too familiar following the precedent set by our football program.
I thought a lot about this during the season. I mean, even if I did not believe the changes were likely to be better, why wouldn’t I try them?This. All day. Team was drowning and the idiot at the helm refused to try something else. Everyone - the announcers, us, probably the team - saw it wasn’t working. Yet that idiot wouldn’t budge.
I don't blame Young. Perhaps he wants to cap off his college career with a shot at the NCAA tournament. It ain't happening with Collins and NU next year.I think it’s a even worse than that. There’s a chance Collins told him he’d play 30 minutes next year. And still, Young had little interest in spending time setting screens at the 3 pt line. Over and over again.
Collins has demonstrated, for years, that the interior game does not matter. Pardon was our best offensive option during his last season and saw stretches of long, long minutes without touching the ball inside the 3 pt line.
DittoGood luck to Ryan. In my 20 years of cheering for NU basketball, he was one of my favorite players. Whoever lands him is lucky to do so.
Ryan Young had the highest ratio of Field Goals Attempted per minute played, by a large margin.I think it’s a even worse than that. There’s a chance Collins told him he’d play 30 minutes next year. And still, Young had little interest in spending time setting screens at the 3 pt line. Over and over again.
Collins has demonstrated, for years, that the interior game does not matter. Pardon was our best offensive option during his last season and saw stretches of long, long minutes without touching the ball inside the 3 pt line.
Gordie, you must view this as an excellent chance to collect even more close losses next season! It’s just that they might be to Radford and Merrimack instead of Illinois. Go Cats!!Ryan Young had the highest ratio of Field Goals Attempted per minute played, by a large margin.
RY - .63
PN - .41
BB - .41
CA - .40
RB - .48
He, a big guy, didn’t get the ball?
RY was a player who knew he should be playing more, a lot more. And every time he got on the court he did not know if he was going to play more than 10 minutes.Ryan Young had the highest ratio of Field Goals Attempted per minute played, by a large margin.
RY - .63
PN - .41
BB - .41
CA - .40
RB - .48
He, a big guy, didn’t get the ball?
So happy to get the first smart-***, baseless comment…Gordie, you must view this as an excellent chance to collect even more close losses next season! It’s just that they might be to Radford and Merrimack instead of Illinois. Go Cats!!
What a recruiter!
You are reaching. The coach has to establish the set to get him that ball. Guys have to pass him the ball. The data shows they got him the ball, unlike what you said.RY was a player who knew he should be playing more, a lot more. And every time he got on the court he did not know if he was going to play more than 10 minutes.
What does a player like that does when he comes in? He shoots the ball at the slightest chance he has. Hoping he can score quickly and force the coach to play him. Which sometimes he did, score, well, and still got stapled to the bench.
The data contradicts zero of what I said.You are reaching. The coach has to establish the set to get him that ball. Guys have to pass him the ball. The data shows they got him the ball, unlike what you said.
I admire your steadfastness. You are interacting with some pretty smart people. They, myself included, harped on the bad coaching strategies employed by our resident genius. Robbie Hummel, who knows a hell of a lot more than you and most of us questioned the tactics of CC and how are players played. Every time you attempt to defend CC, you undermine your credibility. We are not stupid. You are a minority of one. Are you really that much smarter and knowledgeable than every other person who thinks CC blows. If you were at a game and saw the team huddle, CC is not drawing up the plays or making the defensive adjustments. He is not a good coach.You are reaching. The coach has to establish the set to get him that ball. Guys have to pass him the ball. The data shows they got him the ball, unlike what you said.
The data directly contradicts what you said. How can you deny this?The data contradicts zero of what I said.
So what are your theories on why he wants to leave?
Too cold in Evanston?
Wants to move to Canada?
Grad school not prestigious enough?
The summit league is more his level?
Offensive sets too sophisticated for his brain?
There’s some hot chick in California he’s into?
Hope you have season tickets. Your patsies will need someone in purple. You can be that one guy.Ryan Young had the highest ratio of Field Goals Attempted per minute played, by a large margin.
RY - .63
PN - .41
BB - .41
CA - .40
RB - .48
He, a big guy, didn’t get the ball?
Reaching? That’s rich.You are reaching. The coach has to establish the set to get him that ball. Guys have to pass him the ball. The data shows they got him the ball, unlike what you said.
NU was his dream school. Year to be the man.I admire your steadfastness. You are interacting with some pretty smart people. They, myself included, harped on the bad coaching strategies employed by our resident genius. Robbie Hummel, who knows a hell of a lot more than you and most of us questioned the tactics of CC and how are players played. Every time you attempt to defend CC, you undermine your credibility. We are not stupid. You are a minority of one. Are you really that much smarter and knowledgeable than every other person who thinks CC blows. If you were at a game and saw the team huddle, CC is not drawing up the plays or making the defensive adjustments. He is not a good coach.
Ryan Young leaving is very, very bad. He is leaving behind the chance to be the man. Think about it. This is awful. I liked Ryan because he played very hard and was a pretty good offensive and defensive rebounder. I hope he has nothing, but the most success athletically and in any endeavor. He has his degree. He is a smart young man. It is awful for NU to lose a player like him.
In the same paragraph you theorize he is leaving to have a shot at the tournament followed by he’s leaving because Collins suggested he’s not good enough to play ahead some imaginary dude he’s getting in the portal. You see no contradiction?The data directly contradicts what you said. How can you deny this?
Despite this, I’ll answer your question.
My theory (which, I don’t have to say, most board members would think is worth very little), is that he’s just another in a long list of grad transfers looking for a situation that is better for him - playing more and having a better shot to get to the tournament. I do guess that Collins told him he won’t be playing 40 minutes/game next year. And I think Collins did that because he is going to (desperately) try to find someone who is better than Young via the portal. If we stay with Young, we don’t make the tourney and Collins does not save his job.
Can’t wait to see this guy come in. This will age like a corbi post. Can this guy be worse than corbi analysis? Is that possible?The data directly contradicts what you said. How can you deny this?
Despite this, I’ll answer your question.
My theory (which, I don’t have to say, most board members would think is worth very little), is that he’s just another in a long list of grad transfers looking for a situation that is better for him - playing more and having a better shot to get to the tournament. I do guess that Collins told him he won’t be playing 40 minutes/game next year. And I think Collins did that because he is going to (desperately) try to find someone who is better than Young via the portal. If we stay with Young, we don’t make the tourney and Collins does not save his job.
At 6-8, Young had a lot of trouble when playing against the bigger centers in the league. His lack of any kind of outside game limited his value in the Big Ten games. Good luck to him. Hunger has more of the outside game that most bigs need these days. Hoping that Nicholson will show the stuff Purple Book Cat has been touting for two years!
Wel, of course Collins might have told him he won't play 40 minutes per game next year. No one played even 30 this year. But Ryan would have been the starter on a Big 10 team and had a chance to be the best player on an admittedly poor team. Tough break for the rest of the team, whoever chooses to stay, because after 4 years of grinding Ryan was poised to be the Man.The data directly contradicts what you said. How can you deny this?
Despite this, I’ll answer your question.
My theory (which, I don’t have to say, most board members would think is worth very little), is that he’s just another in a long list of grad transfers looking for a situation that is better for him - playing more and having a better shot to get to the tournament. I do guess that Collins told him he won’t be playing 40 minutes/game next year. And I think Collins did that because he is going to (desperately) try to find someone who is better than Young via the portal. If we stay with Young, we don’t make the tourney and Collins does not save his job.