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Like Indiana, the Ole Miss players are on a mission. They want to rub this in Kiffen's face. Good coaching for sure, but these players are motivated and playing with a chip on their shoulder. Easiest team to coach is a very self-motivated team.
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Pretty much all the offensive staff got hired away by LSU and are expected to report now with the portal open. They're in a conundrum because they want to still coach their old players. Look for Kiffin to demand they leave Ole Miss immediately before the next playoff game.
Im also really curious how many Ole Miss players bolt for LSU the minute they lose.
If kiffin does that he better hire body guards and an armored car
I think he's getting huge payouts if they win... I wouldn't be so fast to think he demands anything from them. Probably hoping they win
Huge payout yeah. But what he wont have is a National Title. lol
Seriously though ... Let's be honest. Ole Miss wasn't sniffing a playoff game without Kiffin coaching there for most of the last decade. It was his team, with his coaches, his players, and his scheme.... You can't see Ole Miss win and somehow exclude Kiffin from being a part of it. I understand he won't have a ring, but he's a huge part of their playoff run whether they like it or not.
He didn't make the stupid rules... It's the fault of the spineless NCAA imo.... No one wanted it to turn out like this.
Possibly. Story below says 3 of the 4 Ole Miss coaches leaving for LSU didn't fly back with team to Oxford after Sugar Bowl win.
Ole Miss’ shocking CFP win comes with Lane Kiffin, LSU drama
The messiness has now turned into “fireworks.”
nypost.com
Kiffin only allowing Weis Jr to stay with Ole Miss
www.cbssports.com
Lane Kiffin pulls Ole Miss coaches to LSU; Rebels keep Weis Jr. for CFP semis
As Lane Kiffin builds out his program at LSU, Weis Jr. is the only staffer confirmed to remain with Ole Miss through at least the Rebels' semifinals game against Miami on Jan. 8
www.cbssports.com
He didn't make the rules but he continues to show he doesn't give a rats *** about anyone but himself.
What was he supposed to do? Stay at Ole Miss? Decisions had to be made due to recruiting.
Any man with integrity wouldn't have taken that job until the season ended. If it cost him the job and/or some transfers, so be it.
I feel certain that when the offer came from LSU, they set a deadline for him to decide or the offer was off the table. I get it ,LSU wasn't going to wait around till who knows how long, and miss out on portal/recruiting deadlines.
It can be an ugly business.
I dont disagree. What I am saying and my point is he wont have a ring... or any other hardware for that matter to put on the shelf. I'm sure he can feel good as if he won something, but he didn't. The timing of walking away from it means there will always be an empty spot on that shelf. Had he waited a few weeks? Maybe he wins a National Title and still moves on... but he didn't. lol
If someone offers you 90m+ and gives you a deadline, are you telling me you wouldn’t take it. If anyone should be to blame it is the NCAA for the recruiting periods they have set.
I doubt LSU was going to wait.
I 100% agree with you that there was a deadline. I have coached for years and had various opportunities throughout my career. There is no way in hell I am going to talk to another school until the season ends.
If he were going from DII to LSU, maybe a little tougher decision. Ole Miss to LSU, LSU is going to need to wait, or move along.
Kiffin stated that Ol Miss players wanted him to stay until after the CFP’s (later refuted by key players). His assertion plus news reports that LSU was willing to wait until after the CFP would seem to indicate he could have stayed on IF Ol Miss allowed it. From all reports, they would not, which in my opinion was understandable.
I would agree, if the FBS football calendar wasn't set up with the playoffs and the portal overlapping.
Had he stayed at Ole Miss, he is putting his first season at LSU in serious jeopardy. Move the portal window to after the title game, and this is a moot point.
Imo
Or he simply could have made the decision to finish what he started and talk to LSU when the season ended. Instead, you are justifying him leaving mid-season because the rules allow him to do so?
More like saying the windows set up as they are now didn't give him much wiggle room. Im not sure the LSU job would be there if he waited. And their portal class (if he took the job but stayed at Ole Miss) would suffer if he took the LSU job and stayed through the playoffs.
Just throwing this in there for consideration...
Or, Kiffin could have stayed at Ole Miss, finished what he started with just as good of a chance to win it all as any of the the other teams.....considering in his mind he's probably the most sought after college coach in the game today, and knowing in the back of your / his mind that the Bama job is probably going to open up very soon..... and Bama is a better gig than LSU, imho. IMHO, Kiffin is the only coach that could fill Saban's shoes at Bama, not because of Kiffin, but because of Bama and their pull of essentially getting any player in the country they wanted. Match that with Kiffin's offensive prowess, and you've got Bama winning multiple titles again very soon, imho.
There is no question Kiffin can build and coach a winner....his problem is his short sightedness and never finishing what he starts, and that's why he's never won anything and likely never will..... Karma has a way of inserting itself in these types of situations. Character matters. Integrity matters. Kiffin has neither. We'll see.
Or, Kiffin could have stayed at Ole Miss, finished what he started with just as good of a chance to win it all as any of the the other teams.....considering in his mind he's probably the most sought after college coach in the game today, and knowing in the back of your / his mind that the Bama job is probably going to open up very soon..... and Bama is a better gig than LSU, imho. IMHO, Kiffin is the only coach that could fill Saban's shoes at Bama, not because of Kiffin, but because of Bama and their pull of essentially getting any player in the country they wanted. Match that with Kiffin's offensive prowess, and you've got Bama winning multiple titles again very soon, imho.
There is no question Kiffin can build and coach a winner....his problem is his short sightedness and never finishing what he starts, and that's why he's never won anything and likely never will..... Karma has a way of inserting itself in these types of situations. Character matters. Integrity matters. Kiffin has neither. We'll see.
Thing is he had already gone past Ole Miss's deadline and nothing happened. We will never know how it would have played out if he kept stringing them along or told them to wait... because based on their actions up to that point, they may have backed down.
If Kiffin had told LSU that he was staying to finish out the year LSU would have waited. Kiffin was their man for the future, missing out on a few weeks would not have mattered long term.
So you're basically saying you would never take another job then? Nobody is going to wait for a coach when there's only one transfer window and it opened January 2nd.
There is no way in hell i'm leaving my playoff team before the season ends. Again, it comes down to integrity and it's something Kiffen lacks.
For coaches who make the playoffs, that means they can never take another job.
I get the integrity angle, and dont completely disagree. Im just saying that , with playoff expansion, there are going to be smaller and smaller schools that lose their coaches during that run.
The portal and playoff windows aren't aligned to make for a good solution.
How many times has Kiffen made the playoffs in his career?
His career certainly suggests he would have many chances to jump ship in a non-playoff year. We are not talking Nick Saban here.
Well, we've been at 12 for only two years, and he's done it once out of the two. Now throw in when that moves to 16 teams? Assuming it does, or course.
I said he made once out of the two sinxe we went to 12 teams.
Unless you want to judge him on making a 4 team, or 2 team playoff? Because there wont be any more of those going forward.
I get that you want point to him not making the playoffs for many years prior, but those circumstances are gone with the expanded playoffs.
But couldn't Kiffin have agreed to terms and asked that it be publicized after the Rebels' season concluded?
Covered that.
I get that you want point to him not making the playoffs for many years prior, but those circumstances are gone with the expanded playoffs.