It's On......Geneseo At Phillips

Robert Maszak

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I like Phillips to eek out a victory, even without their stud LB. Either way, I'm inclined to agree with you. I think this will be a good game. Where is it at?
 

JCHILLTOPPERS

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I don't know a lot about geneseo this year, but what a fun match up. Realy welsh the game was at maple leaf.
 

dcaudle68

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Bad match-up for Geneseo. They like to run and if that doesn't work they like to run. Phillips doesn't let you run so when the run doesn't work Saturday night Geneseo will be in for a long game. Phillips offense is not great so it wont be a blowout but Geneseo will have a rough go of it.
 
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Bad match-up for Geneseo. They like to run and if that doesn't work they like to run. Phillips doesn't let you run so when the run doesn't work Saturday night Geneseo will be in for a long game. Phillips offense is not great so it wont be a blowout but Geneseo will have a rough go of it.

We had this same conversation in 2013.
 

gmach22

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About 60 passes! Haven't needed to. That said probably not as able to pass as the last few years. I have no doubt that Phillips is vastly improved and is quite possibly going to get the best of the Green Machine. But please explain to me the basis of the blowout suggestions. And as for the points Phillips has given up, I would guess that every team still alive would fare pretty much the same playing a 9 game CPL schedule. Again I think Phillips is quite capable of beating Geneseo but to think it won't be close really lacks evidence. Is Phillips faster. Yes. Were they faster in 2013? Yes. So please don't use last years game against montini as evidence. Phillips ain't Montini.
 
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tincup1215

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To say that Phillips will blowout Geneseo shows how little you know about Geneseo. Like what Gmach said, Phillips "aint" Montini. This will be a good game.
 

dcaudle68

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About 60 passes! Haven't needed to. That said probably not as able to pass as the last few years. I have no doubt that Phillips is vastly improved and is quite possibly going to get the best of the Green Machine. But please explain to me the basis of the blowout suggestions. And as for the points Phillips has given up, I would guess that every team still alive would fare pretty much the same playing a 9 game CPL schedule. Again I think Phillips is quite capable of beating Geneseo but to think it won't be close really lacks evidence. Is Phillips faster. Yes. Were they faster in 2013? Yes. So please don't use last years game against montini as evidence. Phillips ain't Montini.

I for one am not predicting a blowout. Phillips offense is efficient but not great. Phillips played 3 tough out of conference opponents to start the season and handled them all with ease. They have not played only CPL schools.
 

gmach22

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Fenwick 3-6
Carmel 3-6
Simeon 8-3

While I personally wasn't impressed with Simeon from watching the Phillips game recently but they were clearly the best team of Phillips schedule. The other 2 a combined 6-12. Is that tough? Again Geneseo's non con schedule could challenge anyone's as being the easiest by far but again not a lot of evidence for 3 tough non con opponents from Phillips. I maintain this game is a coin flip but I don't see what Phillips has done to be a big favorite.
 

dcaudle68

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Fenwick 3-6
Carmel 3-6
Simeon 8-3

While I personally wasn't impressed with Simeon from watching the Phillips game recently but they were clearly the best team of Phillips schedule. The other 2 a combined 6-12. Is that tough? Again Geneseo's non con schedule could challenge anyone's as being the easiest by far but again not a lot of evidence for 3 tough non con opponents from Phillips. I maintain this game is a coin flip but I don't see what Phillips has done to be a big favorite.

Records are deceiving here. You are talking a 7A team in the Chicago Catholic League, a 7A team in the ESCC league and were their worst loss of the year when Phillips destroyed them on their home field dedication night. Carmel is a very similar run dominated team as Geneseo by the way and never scored until reserves were in at the end. They have a running back being recruited by Florida St who didn't get 50 yards against Phillips. Peete had almost 2,000 yards on the season for Johnsburg and got 64 yesterday. Simeon has athletes but don't know how to use them so make what you want out of that one.
 

gmach22

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This game will come down to 1 thing and only 1 thing:

Can Geneseo contain Phillips speed. If they can they have a chance. If not, the clock might run early.

Dcaudle,
I really don't think we disagree too much. From what I have seen, Phillips will definitely be the best defense that Geneseo has faced. I'm sure that it will be tough sledding. It's the above mentioned quote that I think is ridiculous. Phillips will win this game because of their defense. I can find no evidence to think a running clock is a possibility.
 

dcaudle68

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Dcaudle,
I really don't think we disagree too much. From what I have seen, Phillips will definitely be the best defense that Geneseo has faced. I'm sure that it will be tough sledding. It's the above mentioned quote that I think is ridiculous. Phillips will win this game because of their defense. I can find no evidence to think a running clock is a possibility.

Phillips made an offensive change a few games ago I don't like and that was moving Skanes out of the QB spot to more of a Tavon Austin all over the field type guy. I think Phillips was better with Skanes touching every snap as the QB they have is not a good enough passer to warrant the change IMO.
 

sundevil1988

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Amani Jones one of the hardest hitting high school LB's I've seen - will be missed but their D line is tough not only big but quick and will give any O line trouble
 

OldLeaf

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Geneseo doesn't have the speed relative to Phillips obviously.....but they do look much faster in mud so we won't be seeing their speed version at Gately. So I guess the Maple Leafs will just have to get a lot of their slower 11 bodies maximizing body contact time on Phillips to contain or slow their speed down some.

Saw some of the game film of Phillips/Johnsburg and Johnsburg didn't look stellar by any means and looked inept at times. Perhaps that was due to Phillips.....just don't really know with any certainty. Saw film of Phillips in several other games and saw all the speed in wide open field against poor defenses and poor tackling teams. And I didn't see much good, solid or refined football techniques and fundamentals of blocking/tackling on a team basis......a lot of not-so-good form and techniques.....relying mostly on their physical/athletic attributes.

Quite the contrast and opposite to Geneseo which makes this an intriguing match-up. I suspect Geneseo will do everything they can to make this a close-quarters, crowded, colliding and intimate contest as much as possible......especially when they have the ball......and would like to keep it that way for most of the game clock. If they can, this may be a very competitive game.
 
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dcaudle68

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Geneseo doesn't have the speed relative to Phillips obviously.....but they do look much faster in mud so we won't be seeing their speed version at Gately. So I guess the Maple Leafs will just have to get a lot of their slower 11 bodies maximizing body contact time on Phillips to contain or slow their speed down some.

Saw some of the game film of Phillips/Johnsburg and Johnsburg didn't look stellar by any means and looked inept at times. Perhaps that was due to Phillips.....just don't really know with any certainty. Saw film of Phillips in several other games and saw all the speed in wide open field against poor defenses and poor tackling teams. And I didn't see much good, solid or refined football techniques and fundamentals of blocking/tackling on a team basis......a lot of not-so-good form and techniques.....relying mostly on their physical/athletic attributes.

Quite the contrast and opposite to Geneseo which makes this an intriguing match-up. I suspect Geneseo will do everything they can to make this a close-quarters, crowded, colliding and intimate contest as much as possible......especially when they have the ball......and would like to keep it that way for most of the game clock. If they can, this may be a very competitive game.

Leaf I wished I lived close enough to Chicago to attend this game, believe you would be a delight to chat with. Good luck this weekend!
 

gmach22

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Geneseo doesn't have the speed relative to Phillips obviously.....but they do look much faster in mud so we won't be seeing their speed version at Gately. So I guess the Maple Leafs will just have to get a lot of their slower 11 bodies maximizing body contact time on Phillips to contain or slow their speed down some.

Saw some of the game film of Phillips/Johnsburg and Johnsburg didn't look stellar by any means and looked inept at times. Perhaps that was due to Phillips.....just don't really know with any certainty. Saw film of Phillips in several other games and saw all the speed in wide open field against poor defenses and poor tackling teams. And I didn't see much good, solid or refined football techniques and fundamentals of blocking/tackling on a team basis......a lot of not-so-good form and techniques.....relying mostly on their physical/athletic attributes.

Quite the contrast and opposite to Geneseo which makes this an intriguing match-up. I suspect Geneseo will do everything they can to make this a close-quarters, crowded, colliding and intimate contest as much as possible......especially when they have the ball......and would like to keep it that way for most of the game clock. If they can, this may be a very competitive game.

What he said.
 

dcaudle68

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For those that assume Phillips is the run and gun team they "ran" for 410 yards on Saturday. Skanes is closing in on 1,000 for the year with Mosby around 1,900 yards on the ground. They average around 400 yards per game rushing behind a huge veteran line that averages just a touch under 300 pounds per man. The lead blocking back is 260 pounds.