those who say he is not a "legitimate president" are not legitimate Americans......as I've said before...move to another country and say that crap and see what it gets you......Doctor King's son has it right....why can't you folks realize that Friday starts a new era of a greater America...one would think you would want to be a part of it with the rest of us
It's time to put all the rancor aside and support our incoming president
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Considering PEOTUS was a birther until last fall, that's a pretty good one SSB.
I am NOT a Trump guy...he got my vote ONLY because the pants suit was a much worse option......whatever he is or was he is going to be the president...OUR president...and he at least deserves a chance to succeed or fail before we write him off...all this other BS needs to cease until we see what kind of job he does...fair enough?
I won't say he is an illegitimate president; he won the electoral college, those are the rules.
But as far as supporting the POS, :middlefinger:.
But as far as supporting the POS, :middlefinger:.
I totally agree, I just find this hilarious that Trump and his supporters are all butthurt about "legitimacy" after 8 years of birtherism.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise...how bout you?
It is going to be interesting to see. He is going to take a beating like no other POTUS ever. It all might stick and bring him down or it might make a backlash effect by making him look like a sympathetic figure. I know calling Trump a potential sympathetic figure now sounds crazy but anything can happen.
I don't get your 8 years of birtherism.......that issue was put to bed shortly after the Hillary Clinton campaign brought it up in 2007/2008. It was never an issue with me and I never heard the Obama "legitimacy" outcry from any member of congress.
I was mostly referring to Trump. He certainly didn't see the issue as put to bed in 2007/2008. If I recall correctly he had to call a PC last fall to announce he believed Obama was a citizen.
Good point about Congress and legitimacy. I don't remember any elected GOP member doubting Obama's citizenship.
Yes.....Trump did have a PC about the issue....but I had NEVER previously hear him say that he believed that Obama was not born here. I DID hear him say before the PC when repeatedly asked by the press that the issue had been brought up by others in the past. I will admit he should have put it to bed when asked the first time. One thing you have to keep in mind about Trump......controversy kept him in the news forefront.
I'll stop calling him Captain Combover and start referring to him as President Trump, but I think this one needs to be scrutinized more than any other President in recent history!
You seriously won't support the President of the country you live in? What the hell is wrong with you?
All due respect: you're on a Mountaineer db with the profile name MichiganHerd.....what the hell is wrong with you?
I hate the illegitimate president talk whether it was dems with dubya over Florida, wingnuts with Obama over his birth certificate or certain liberals with Trump over the various issues with this past election. I have said it before here. I support our country and government. Unfortunately our president elect is the biggest conspiracy theorists in the world and he does it almost daily. Lately calling the CIA director as the possible leaker of the dossier. Trump is so unpresidential it is extremely hard for Americans to respect him much less others outside the country. I want this country to succeed but the start of the next four years have been a disaster and it is time for republicans to quit whining and start acting like the winners of the election and put forth a positive example on all fronts. Starting with Trump and his staff.
What makes me a scumbag? Is it because I have a different view of politics that you disagree with? Do explain.
I'm a Michigan fan first and foremost. I won't call you a scumbag due to being a WVU fan, since I don't know you personally. You're free to cheer on whomever you desire to root for.
But aren't there Michigan db's you can go to? I'm still pissed about Rod...I'm over Beilein, because we got the better of that deal. But I mean you guys gutted us pretty good....even tried for Izzo-Brown.
But I do live in buckeye country now, so I hope Harbaugh does well....cause these buckeye fans are just horrible.
Why are you liberals wanting me to leave? I thought you guys were the all inclusive bunch.
I'm just knocked my YOU around....I mean Michigan is one thing, but also Marshall? You deserve some crap for that my man
What? You can't be serious.
Trump led that BS for years, he even bragged about making Obama produce the long form BC even after he had already released the short form. Obama released the long form in 2011 to hopefully finally put the issue to rest, but Trump still kept going on with it.
Trump never said that President Obama was not born here. In fact he should be credited with putting that BS to rest.
Trump never said that President Obama was not born here. In fact he should be credited with putting that BS to rest.
Show me a quote from Trump that shows otherwise......he never said Obama was not born here.
1. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."
- March 23, 2011, on "The View"
2. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."
- March 28, 2011, on Fox News
3. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."
- March 30, 2011, on The Laura Ingraham Show
4. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."
- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show
5. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."
- April 7, 2011, on MSNBC's "Morning Joe"
Note: On April 27, 2011, President Obama made public his long form birth certificate. The Trump campaign in his statement portrayed this as the event that resolved the situation.
"Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," Miller said.
But as the following comments demonstrate, whatever he thought personally, Trump continued to gin up birther issues for years after.
6. "He didn't know he was running for president, so he told the truth. The literary agent wrote down what he said ... He said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
- May 24, 2012, interview with The Daily Beast's Lloyd Grove, responding to an erroneous report about Obama
7. "A lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. ... Many people do not think it was authentic. His mother was not in the hospital. There are many other things that came out. And frankly if you would report it accurately I think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting."
- May 29, 2012, to CNN's Wolf Blitzer
8. "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."
- August 6, 2012, in a tweet more than a year after Obama released his longform birth certificate
9. "Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I'm saying I don't know. Nobody knows."
- August 2013, to ABC News
10. "How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama's 'birth certificate' died in plane crash today. All others lived."
- December 12, 2013, in tweet about the death of Loretta Fuddy.
11. "Well, I don't know -- did he do it? ... Well, a lot of people don't agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn't a proper certificate."
-May 2014, in an interview with TV3's Colette Fitzpatrick in Ireland, Trump first contested whether Obama had released his birth certificate, then questioned whether its legitimacy.
12. "There are three things that could happen. And one of them did happen. He was perhaps born in Kenya. Very simple, OK? He was perhaps born in this country. But said he was born in Kenya because if you say you were born in Kenya, you got aid and you got into colleges. People were doing that. So perhaps he was born in this country, and that has a very big chance. Or, you know, who knows?"
- May 27, 2014, in remarks at the National Press Club
13. "Who knows about Obama? ... Who knows, who knows? Who cares right now?... I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I will write a book, I will do another book, and it will do very successfully."
- January 6, 2016, in aninterview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
14. "I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet ... I don't talk about it anymore. The reason I don't is because then everyone is going to be talking about it as opposed to jobs, the military, the vets, security."
- September 15, 2016, in an interview with The Washington Post.
Sounds like someone is in denial over Trump jumping on the birther brigade. He did and it wasn't pretty.