IU Spent 60,000,000 on Football
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Saw something where IU has more resources than anyone in the SEC other than Texas.
While it may mean more, the tide may leaning toward the resources the top 4 in the Big 10 have. (OSU, Michigan, Indiana, Penn St)
I also heard that USC and UCLA donors are more geared toward philanthropy than athletics.
While it may mean more, the tide may leaning toward the resources the top 4 in the Big 10 have. (OSU, Michigan, Indiana, Penn St)
I also heard that USC and UCLA donors are more geared toward philanthropy than athletics.
Cant be. No matter how many times i posted here that IU was spending big, i was always assured it wasn't true.
Don't get me wrong, cignetti is a great coach but they absolutely are a top spender in cfb.
Don't get me wrong, cignetti is a great coach but they absolutely are a top spender in cfb.
If true, that makes more sense on why they are so good. Same with TX tech.
Do we have a mark Cuban? 60 million a year is a ton.
Do we have a mark Cuban? 60 million a year is a ton.
Mark Cuban net worth 6 billion
Joe Craft net worth 1.5 billion
Joe Craft net worth 1.5 billion
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Based on their very non-star-powered roster (obviously excluding Mendoza, but even he wasn't the highest priced transfer), it wasn't on players. That's three times what OSU reportedly pays. For the 25th ranked transfer class and recruiting classes ranked 48th, 64th, and 68th starting in 2025 and going back? I'm surprised Cuban isn't going bankrupt with this kind of funding and who besides Mendoza from these modestly ranked classes are winning this lottery?
Or, maybe, just maybe their success has less to do with a mythical and astronomical payroll and more to do with COACHING. Less about names like Cuban and more to do with names like Cignetti?
Or, maybe, just maybe their success has less to do with a mythical and astronomical payroll and more to do with COACHING. Less about names like Cuban and more to do with names like Cignetti?
Cuban spending that kind of money when there’s homeless people suffering is very wrong(according to him in other situations).
spot on. Coaching as well as great organizational people, hard work from all, and dedication towards winning. Love it that they nay sayers have been proven wrong.
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They must have spent 100 years building a war chest while being historically bad, like almost Vandy level bad, all while waiting for this moment.
From most reports cubannisnt their big donor. He gives a lot to the university but he made a donation to the FB program this year. It wasn’t 60 mil
College athletics needs a salary cap and transparent structure or it will be like mlb.
The cap allows different teams, with the right coaching staff to elevate.
The cap allows different teams, with the right coaching staff to elevate.
Having superstars or a boatload of 5 stars is a winning solution for some, but every so often a team like IU pops up who has a coach able to coach up marginally lesser talent. And has a lot of kids who are highly motivated, fit their roles and positions to a tee and are able to execute the coaches system at a very high level. A level in which that execution is able to overcome the superstars athleticism when huge games are on the line. Brains vs. Braun so to speak. It’s what we can hope Stein can accomplish here to some degree. IU has hit that perfect combination the past couple of seasons. The trick will be seeing if they can maintain it long term. If they can Cignetti is a Hall of Famer.
At least from what I read, the $60 million wasn’t all NIL, it was for facilities, upgrades, etc, plus staff and NIL, so I don’t believe it’s an annual thing. Who knows it could be, or could be more, but that’s just what I read.
Sorry 5 million was technology center and read 6 million to rugby only thing I could find
60 mil? Indiana has one of the lowest talent compositions in p4 they’re not winning because of nil funds
I would think the 60 mil is a sum total if numerous donations, revenue sharing and University investment.
Folks think we spend three nickels and a penny investing in our program, but since Stoops arrived we’ve invested north of $200 million into football through Stadium renovations, the practice facility, which is about as nice as anyone out there, the recruiting room, among other things. Maybe NIL has some work and needs some creativity, but they gave Stoops far more than any other coach we’ve had resource wise, but I guess it wasn’t enough, and Stoops was paid far more handsomely than he deserved. He was a good coach for a while but he didn’t adapt to the changing ways of college football over the last several years. He was too stubborn and conservative to change and adapt. It’s why I’m glad we have a coach who is young and understands the present and has a vision for the future and is more than willing to adapt. Of course he has a lot to prove and it’s going to be a wait and see, but things are looking positive.
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Yeah, that social inclusion won’t win football games but they don’t like it out there anyway
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This. Until then, the biggest winners will almost always be the biggest spenders.
Spending big doesn't necessarily mean winning big, but not spending big guarantees you wont win big.
Heard today the QB from Cincinnata going to Texas $4 million
Maybe he would have more cheddar if it started with a K
I keep reading there’s a cap on NIL. So how is a CFB team spending supposedly spending $60 million?
Everyone not able to spend big wants a cap. A cap makes sense, unless you have the big money to outspend everyone.
it is difficult to see IU spend more and say more money did not factor into their success. OSU outspends most teams, as well. Buying college sports has traditionally had an impact on the game.
How would anyone know what Cuban or Craft's net worth is at the moment? It fluctuates daily and both of them own interest in private companies which are notoriously difficult to value.
No doubt, both aren't worried about price tags or the cost of groceries, but net worth figures for people in that stratosphere are largely WAGs.
Texas Tech’s main donor is pushing the score act. Supposedly they’re one of the top spenders.
There is a cap on revenue share, which is totally separate than nil.
Also that 60 mil went into football generally, not just nil. Although nil was definitely healthy enough to pay mendoza who was a top qb transfer and others.
I sure hope all these young millionaires are going to class and passing their courses. 
Folks, you can easily look up the richest alumni bases.
IU isn’t on there.
Mich, USC, Texas, UCLA are. As well as UVA, ND, Northwestern, Stanford, Cal, and all the Ivies.
Cuban is wealthy, he isn’t Walmart wealthy which has direct connections to two SEC schools.
Now, I do understand that it’s not necessarily just wealth but wealth geared towards sports. Would agree with your statement about the SC and UCLA.
Most elite tier wealth tends to be more philanthropic. Give to the school. That wealth generally buys professional sports teams as opposed to floating athletics departments.
We’re barely into an era in which alumni wealth can go to athletes. Not enough data to really know how that will go. However, I would say there seems to be several programs in both sports doing very well that really aren’t in the neighborhood with the type of wealth folks seem to think it takes.
The best part about all of this is it’s going to eventually completely destroy college athletics to where it has to be rebuilt from the ground up.
teams aren’t going to keep trying to compete with the 7 or 8 programs that can actually afford to spend the kind of money they need to win a title so schools will either set caps and make it law or they’ll be divisions no different than high schools have for classifications.
In a six class system I’d say Kentucky would be lucky to be the equivalent of a 4A school in terms of money spent in football.
well unless you count Barney and stoops contract
this is why the old system worked so well. Players were getting paid. In the form of scholarships. Now I’m perfectly fine with a player getting an endorsement deal using their likeness. No issues with the outside sources. But there’s absolutely no reason schools should be actively playing players like their free agents. We should just scrap college sports all together and just send them straight to a minor league pro team if that’s the case
teams aren’t going to keep trying to compete with the 7 or 8 programs that can actually afford to spend the kind of money they need to win a title so schools will either set caps and make it law or they’ll be divisions no different than high schools have for classifications.
In a six class system I’d say Kentucky would be lucky to be the equivalent of a 4A school in terms of money spent in football.
well unless you count Barney and stoops contract
this is why the old system worked so well. Players were getting paid. In the form of scholarships. Now I’m perfectly fine with a player getting an endorsement deal using their likeness. No issues with the outside sources. But there’s absolutely no reason schools should be actively playing players like their free agents. We should just scrap college sports all together and just send them straight to a minor league pro team if that’s the case
I wouldn’t say the old NCAA worked great for everyone.
It worked great for a handful of programs in both football and basketball.
Specifically the last 15-20 years in football.
Would agree with the class system. The one thing that has always been wrong with the NCAA no matter what era you’re talking about is that 136 programs are in the same D1 FBS boat.
That 136 needs to be chopped up into about 4 groups.
That gives you a nice clean pro structure of 34 teams. All pretty close in talent and wealth. Half the league makes the playoffs. You can manage scheduling and make it more fair. No more what if so and so played, SOS, etc arguments.
Yes, IU was anecdotal but richest fan bases and what donors will spend money on are two different things. See the USC/UCLA comment.
IU has ELI Lilly money and one of the best business schools. Also, said SEC.
IU has ELI Lilly money and one of the best business schools. Also, said SEC.