Upper 50s, but yes. The sad truth is the sport has passed them by. It's not the 1990s where dudes can just jam their foreheads into the other guy's chest and outgrind and expect to win Nattys. Our coaches are lost when it comes to the athletes that are dominating the sport today and the skill sets they bring. Just the truth.
And I explained that coaches lie, because that is also common knowledge.
The simple logic is that nobody outside of Iowa wants to see Iowa compete for wrestling titles anymore, and they also want it to be Penn State-Oklahoma State, mainly because Taylor, a former PSU guy, is now at Ok State. And I agree with you that the sad obsession the country has with Penn State being these successful overlords of college wrestling needs to die. Iowa has and always will be the rightful bastion for the sport of wrestling.
Hardly..........
Unfortunately, I agree. There comes a time when a change is necessary and we are at if.
almost 58. This is a high stress demanding job. That is old for guys in a combat sport. There are older head coaches but are there older head/Assistant head coaching combos? Dresser is old but his staff is young. Tom Ryan is old but has younger staff. The two younger guys on Iowa's staff account for very little of the staff salary and both couldn't score a takedown when they competed. None of this is on Star or Bobby. They are not the guys running the show.
I agree with your thoughts, but the Brian Ferentz situation showed us that’s not always the case.
I agree- but we can’t forget Kirk wasn’t the one who fired his son- it was the AD and President. And in the end, that was a performance issue too.
I think you’re right- wrestling coaching is a young man’s game. While Morningstar and Telford are young, clearly their development coaching skills of the guys in the room isn’t up to standard based on results.
Financially he wouldn’t need to do anything. But I highly doubt Brands is the type who will just sit back, count his money on his couch, take up cooking or painting or travel the world. Those who know him well say he’s wired where he’s always in motion and his life is wrestling. Terry the same way. If Iowa fires him they will both find a new school.
As much as I wish 57 was relatively young the reality is it isn't, not in this sport and especially when you don't have young dynamic accomplished assistants helping.
They are 57 thats not young. Who cares what they do. They have made a lot of money coaching. Maybe they do motivational speaking. Matt Foley style.
I certainly wouldn’t call Morningstar or Telford old, but they certainly aren’t dynamic I agree.
If you think the commits you have in 27 and 28 are even arguably close to what PSU and OK State are bringing in it’s no wonder that you’re really pissed and didn’t see this coming
just to be clear Im with you. People bring up those classes like they are a game changer, but PSU does this and better every year.
If you think that performance of the program (especially a core program like men's wrestling) isn't something the AD should be concerned with... Now ideally there's are conversations about expectations and how something needs to change as everyone can see gap is widening, other programs are catching (surpassing), attendance is trending down over last couple years. If there needs to be funds to buyout existing contracts, both of the staff currently here, as well as staff elsewhere they would want to bring in, the AD would be involved in that conversation with the HC.
The official cesspool Spelling Bee would demand that.
Waning attendance and fan disinterest is what got Fran fired. It’s the kiss of death and a sure sign that your welcome has been worn out.
Friend worked at one of the concession stands last night, they cooked less amount of food than statistically would for the amount of tickets "sold" and still had over large number hot dogs and brats left after and that was just one of the booths. So attendance was down, purchases were down, further proof of the fan apathy and disinterest.
And the only reason they did is because Brian was supposed to be directly under them, not the head coach. Ferentz would have never fired his son no matter how bad things got. He may have retired to have him take over as head coach, which I’m sure was the plan, and would take attention off what a bad OC he was. If we fire TnT in their 50’s, then she needs to fire Ferentz in his 70’s. Problem with Ferentz is he gets paid millions a year and his agent suckered the old AD into a buyout that makes him untouchable for us.
TnT wouldn’t need to do anything, but they look like they have stayed in great physical shape, and still have an obvious passion for the sport and coaching, regardless of recent results. If they didn’t coach D1, they would have to be heavily involved in a club, maybe do some tv color announcer work. They aren’t the sit around and smell the roses type of guys. Could you imagine Tom or Terry with Shane Sparks.
People not being able to stomach what they were watching....
