JCA and the ESCC
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Why would JCA move, wouldn't any other conference be a terrible move for their girls sports?
Gentlemen:
Please allow me to explain...I brought JCA into the mix simply to point out that some programs- like yours-relish in the opportunity to compete against any and all comers. On the other hand...some programs retreat from stern competition and create a facade , or passively sit by as one is created, that they are better than they are.
Ergo the Chicago Mediocre Conference...
On another thread I brought JCA, Montini, Marmion and Fenwick into the mix, in an attempt to point that out. I'm not suggesting the JCA would ever leave the SCC. Nor do I believe it's likely that Fenwick or Montini will leave the CL.
I apologize if I created any unnecessary speculation.
JLP
Please allow me to explain...I brought JCA into the mix simply to point out that some programs- like yours-relish in the opportunity to compete against any and all comers. On the other hand...some programs retreat from stern competition and create a facade , or passively sit by as one is created, that they are better than they are.
Ergo the Chicago Mediocre Conference...
On another thread I brought JCA, Montini, Marmion and Fenwick into the mix, in an attempt to point that out. I'm not suggesting the JCA would ever leave the SCC. Nor do I believe it's likely that Fenwick or Montini will leave the CL.
I apologize if I created any unnecessary speculation.
JLP
The only real complaint for JCA in the ESCC is the geography in travelling to Woodstock, Mudelein,,etc
Rarely mentioned is the strong bond, cross-program mentoring and sense of sportsmanship and respect that exists among most ESCC schools.
Beyond a few outlining instances, ugly tactics in the pursuit of student athletes do not exist.
I do not foresee any current members leaving.
Beyond a few outlining instances, ugly tactics in the pursuit of student athletes do not exist.
I do not foresee any current members leaving.
This is why I'd like to see the ESCC add two schools and have North and South Divisions of 6 schools each. In football, they do something similar now with the North/South setup. But, two more schools could further reduce the travel demands.
*stirs pot*
They could add Loyola and PC, that way the girls and boys could be in the same conference.
I'm confused.
LA and PC girls compete in the GCAC. PC girls just left the ESCC, along with Fenwick & B-Mac.
Yes, if Loyola and PC join the ESCC then both the boys and girls could be in the same conference.
Yeah, but the CMC fell apart for a reason. I think it makes sense too, but I just don't see it happening.
Yep, I love that. Like in Euro soccer minus the Euro and the soccer.
Times have changed. The reasons it fell apart have changed. Why hold the current situation hostage to a former situation that is no longer relevant?
Unless, of course, the result of that math is even better than what you claim you like now. Problem is, you won't know if its better because you like what you like right now and don't seem open to other possibilities.
You like those Mundelein-Joliet, Mundelein-Lisle, Mundelein-Mt. Greenwood, and Mundelein-Chicago Heights round trip commutes do ya?
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Agreed. My sense is there are lingering feelings of resentment between the ESCC and CCL. I think a combination makes sense on a competitive and geographic level. I'm not close enough to the schools to ascertain if they'd even consider another try at a combination of the two conferences. My gut feeling is many will not. And it's enough to prevent even preliminary discussions from taking place. It's too bad for all involved, IMO.
No one likes those commutes, obviously, but I'm not sure a split conference based on geography is preferred by most, either. As is, it seems to be a setup that works for most involved. Of course, as is the case with any conference, even the slightest shuffling could change the whole dynamic.
Imagine a northern football division of Loyola, Fenwick, Carmel, NDCP, St. Pat's, Viator, and MCC. There would be six division games, one crossover and two non-con games.
If you wanted divisions of six, take Fenwick out of the above grouping and put them with more centrally located schools like Montini, Naz, Ignatius, Laurence and DLS. Schools would play five division games, two crossovers, and two non-cons.
How about a southern division of BR, SR, MC, PC, Marist, JCA and Benet? Not sure what to do with Marian of the Heights.
It's an eyebrow raiser, if nothing else.
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Agreed but it could also be worked out with the administrations to have the longer travel games on the weekends. It would take a little effort from the Athletic Departments but that can easily be solved.
They pretty much already do that in a lot of sports. I know for baseball, the weekend DH's are against the schools the farthest away and the weekday games at the ones closer. JCA typically plays the DH's against Pats, Viator, ND, COM, MCC and weekday games Naz, Benet, Marist, MC,
However, so many sports (cross-country, track/field, golf, tennis, volleyball, wrestling, badminton, swimming, etc.) are geared to have conference competition Mon-Thurs with tournaments/invitationals on Fridays and Saturdays. The option for long conference trips on the weekend does not actually exist in practice.