Jefferson at the 5
- Thread starter Duke=Boom!
- Start date
(1) The Thornton transfer rumor is inexplicable to me. I guess you never know what's going on behind the scenes, but that would be pretty stunning. He is / was the clear favorite to start at PG this season.
(2) Regardless of any truth about DT, I don't see why his decision would have any impact on Bolden at all -- as there's absolutely no position overlap at all between the two. If there has been a chance of circumstances at Duke that would have improved our chances, I would think it has something to do with Chase or Jefferson -- not DT. I can't imagine any two players who are less relevant to each other.
(2) Regardless of any truth about DT, I don't see why his decision would have any impact on Bolden at all -- as there's absolutely no position overlap at all between the two. If there has been a chance of circumstances at Duke that would have improved our chances, I would think it has something to do with Chase or Jefferson -- not DT. I can't imagine any two players who are less relevant to each other.
The DT rumor makes zero sense. He looked happy in all of the DBP videos, and I haven't seen any chemistry issues. There isn't exactly a log jam at his position, and he is the only true PG on the team. Frank is more of a combo imo. All the tools next year, and you are leaving? WHY?
I would be shocked if it is Thorton. It would make more sense if it had something to do with Chase Jeter or the NCAA not granting Jefferson a medical hardship. Hopefully we will know soon, I don't like this suspense
But I do love DT. He's a great kid and he plays hard. I can't say that about him. He just seemed to have the case of the turnover bug all season, but there were those times he made great plays.
I agree it's stunning and there's no overlap between DT and Bolden. The only thing I can think of is Allen has indicated he'll be back, which makes 5 guards for 2 spots.
So quick to cast aside Derryck? You guys need to rein this in a little.
He is a score first PG with great feet on D, and darn good overall. I could envision him wanting to be in a different system, one where he can attack one on one more, but didn't he know that's not really the character of Duke basketball and Coach K when he signed? What credibility do these message board comments have?
Basically, why do we believe this may be true?
He is a score first PG with great feet on D, and darn good overall. I could envision him wanting to be in a different system, one where he can attack one on one more, but didn't he know that's not really the character of Duke basketball and Coach K when he signed? What credibility do these message board comments have?
Basically, why do we believe this may be true?
So this fellow is saying DT is wanting out? Did he say anything specific, like: "someone tells me DT is courting U of L and their escorts?" Interesting development if this guy is being honest.
Adam is very plugged in....and it's gained some traction other places too. On top of that, the deafening silence from a few leads me to believe something is up, as well.
Thanks DukieJay, I'll stay tuned. I really want DT to play out the next 3 years in Durham and expand his game. Going to another program may help him out... or not. All I know is we've put out some great guards recently.
Maybe it has nothing to do with basketball and more to do with proximity to home. Maybe the system isn't a perfect fit for him and he doesn't want to lose another year figuring it out. Maybe it is not DT at all. I will await further word before I comment on it.
Coach K just close the deal on Bolden get GA to stay one more year and we will forget about DT. Duke needs bigs who can play both ends of the court and I keep saying a mixture of Jefferson, Jeter, Bolden and Giles will be dynamic.
I don't know how anyone could say losing Thornton but getting Bolden is anything but a net loss. Experienced guard play is what wins in March. Look at the Final Four teams, all seniors. Unless you have a once-in-a-lifetime college player like Tyus Jones, you need experience handling the ball. We have plenty of depth at the 4/5. We have no one at the 1. A full year of college ball under his belt plus a full offseason should do wonders for Thornton.
Carolina will win the NATY because they have bigs who can score and when the guards miss the bigs get the rebound. Johnson, Meeks and Hicks are really good. Next year Duke will have GA Kennard Matt Jones and Frank Jackson as guards add in Tatum who can score and you have enough ball handlers. I need size and scoring down low.
We can agree to disagree. Plus you said Meeks was really good.
And what happens if Allen declares and Frank Jackson needs a rest. You really want to go back to Kennard and Jones running the offense?
Dukes offense runs around the point guard. We won't win next year without great point guard play. Period. We never have in the past even with great players. Yes Bolden will help but DT was the key to next years team. GA (if he comes back) isn't a point guard, neither is Luke, Matt, or Frank. They are all 2 guards. This (if true) is a huge blow for Duke, in my opinion.
I said if we get GA back Duke wouldn't miss DT that much, if GA decides to leave then yeah we need DT.
can someone explain why Duke (Coach K) recruits so many shooting guards? If GA comes back next year, Duke will have 1 PG, 4 SG, 1 SF(I'm not counting White because he will get no playing time) 2 PF's and 1 Center if Bolden doesn't come.
THANK YOU............................... This is why I want Bolden so bad because Duke needs a complete team and right now we have enough guards just need some big men who can score rebound and play defense.
That's because we played 4 guards the whole season. At one point, we played a lineup with 5 guards! I don't see any possible lineup next year that will get minutes with only one of Amile, Giles, Jeter, Obi, Vrank on the floor. Amile is a beast on the boards and will be playing closer to the basket next year. I'd take those 5 guys getting rebounds than trying to manage a season without a point guard.
Rebounding will be fine next year...Bolden or not. Giles, Tatum, Jefferson, are all athletic and long and from what I know good Rebounders.
The DT rumor just boggles my mind. The fact that it came up on a non-Duke board or site was the interesting part...
Frank Jackson is not a 1 right now
Damn Derryck don't transfer man!!!
Damn Derryck don't transfer man!!!
He got better all year. He was behind the 8 ball coming in, his defense was very good and he had some really good flashes. With a full off season I was expecting big things from him. Your take on DT today seems extremely negative. But yet Frank who isn't even a 1 is somehow already better in your mind. Think it is just a bit rash.
I really don't think this is a good situation at all. You can't have Grayson play point, he needs to be off the ball where he can get in the flow of the offense better. You can't have Matt play the point because he slows down the offense. Frank seems like he is in the mold of Grayson. I understand everyone wants the big men for rebounding and trust me I get it..... But when we play a team next year that presses us from opening tip (a team like Louisville) everyone on here that is just pushing DT aside better not come on here and complain when turnovers go up. And if I'm wrong I will be the first person to admit it.
I agree: having a true point for situations like that who has played a year of college bball is invaluable. Even with Grayson and possibly Bolden coming in, if we turn the ball over 15+ times Duke could easily get beat by a team with a group of veteran guards. All it takes is one bad game and Duke's home earlier than expected. Hopefully this isn't set in stone, but it doesn't sound good.
