But the Mitch negotiating bad contracts doesn’t seem convincing?
Seriously?
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JMI Sports & NIL Issue
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Seriously?
UK needs to break the rules and use the money they get from the SECtv deals and keep it in total sports and make the University make it with tuition or donations.
Huh? There’s no mystery to that. We already KNOW the athletic department has signed bad contracts. There was nothing in the article that I found persuasive or specific about the JMI contract.
"In talking to sources, JMI, in conjunction with the UK basketball staff, is requiring prospective student-athletes to sign away NIL rights that would normally be untouched at any other school. A highly structured brand partnership agreement is something uncommon at other schools, but it is something Kentucky has pursued in accordance with JMI, making this arrangement unique to the current landscape of college basketball recruiting."
If we're limiting players NIL options in ways other schools aren't via JMI--then I very much think JMI is a huge problem as well.
Pope is his own set of issues. But I think Pope's emotions are and attitude about bidding are easily fixed. Don't get me wrong. I'd be fine if we parted ways after the season and they brought in someone like Oats.
Yeah I don’t wanna keep repeating myself on this topic. If you feel that’s persuasive you do you. When I hear signing away rights, I need to hear what kind of rights for that to bear any merit.
Ok.
When I hear "that normally would be untouched at any other school," I think that's probably problematic. I don't know that I can think of "NIL rights" that you can sign away that aren't problematic. Especially in the context of our current recruiting failures.
But we can certainly agree to disagree.
Yeah that’s sensationalism. That stuff does nothing for me. They brought no facts and just said “PANIC!!!”. Bad journalism on all that stuff.
How Mitch Barnhart and this whole network of worthless administrators don’t get fired is beyond me. I guess when everyone in power is in on it it’s easy to keep your job when you screw everything up.Man this is some ******** !
New details on JMI deal with UK and its negative impact on recruiting
”Kentucky is the only school I’ve dealt with that even has anything remotely like this in their contracts.”www.aseaofblue.com
Mitch’s own words were “it gets a little tricky if they don’t want to use our partners”.
That Reddit post makes it look like the only way to go to a sponsor outside of JMI is for that sponsor to become a partner.
That Reddit post makes it look like the only way to go to a sponsor outside of JMI is for that sponsor to become a partner.
We don't have a single recruit for 2026 yet. That isn't sensationalism and it damn sure seems like someone needs to say panic because we clearly have underlying issues.
Given the quality of his first group, Im inclined to think Pope can at least recruit well enough to land some talent. But nothing? Somehting else is going on.
This is all very simple. What it comes down to is that Mitch Barnhart is a goody two shoes who wants to play by rules that he thought were going to exist, that in reality DO NOT exist and are NEVER GOING TO EXIST. And UK is the only school in America doing this. And that is why we have ZERO recruits signed.
The JMI deal is at best cumbersome and difficult to navigate and worst restrictive to the point of off putting. I haven’t read it all and wouldn’t be the person to decipher it anyway
Pope is selling a “platoon type system” and isn’t a good closer. And when Cal said he would never play a platoon again, we all thought he was just being obtuse. Maybe not.
I also know any professional that has a fee for service business is never supposed to get involved with discussions about fees. And the smart ones don’t. That’s what the office manager does.
Get a GM who is a closer.
That’s exactly what it is. No player that sees himself in the NBA sooner than later, (even if wrong), is not going to play in a system.
The system would really not be a detriment to greatness but they will told it is.
And no player wants to be labeled a “system player”.
Pope needs to have a plan to offset that.
But just like games, he doesn’t plan.
This isn't just ignorant, it's not true. JQ is a lottery pick, everyone wanted Koby Brea, Andrew Carr and Williams last year. Caleb Wilson and about 10 other recruits in the top 25 were getting UK crystal balls and suddenly it all dried up over night and it all coincided with a billion articles about a sketchy deal that we don't have all the details on and our AD won't answer questions about (the LHL piece is about as kids gloves an interview as there could be) and that's excluding the underhanded stuff with UK staff being married to a JMI executive.
I don't care if it's just Mitch Barnhart causing all the problems, JMI causing the issues or Pope causing all of these kids to sign elsewhere, you need to fix it and do it now. The only constant in any of this is Mitch. He picked Pope, JMI and continues to sign incredibly short sighted and idiotic contracts.
I do not agree with anyone who thinks UK should get into bidding wars. This is NOT what college athletics was ever about, period. These players are still in college / university, so we unfortunately have to call them "student athletes". I agree with Pope on this one.
And what EXACTLY are these agents / players complaining about in regarding to JMI language? Until they come right out and say what it is, they're just continuing the game of manipulating teams into bidding higher. I totally agree that Mitch and others need to go. I don't think Pope needs to go until he's had a third season completed and if things aren't better than, then let him go. He's having to deal with whole lot of ******, entitled, gimme-gimmee-gimmee attitudes on the roster. This corrupt thing that NIL is, is also bothering him. I think he'll figure out a way to deal with it.
THANK YOU, MITCH! YOU HAVE COMPLETELY DESTROYED KENTUCKY BASKETBALL!!!!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO GIVE YOU AN STANDING OVATION!!!!!! THANK YOU AGAIN CREEDY MITCH!!!!!
JMIs restrictions won’t affect football as much except with elite recruits. Football players wear helmets and there are 22 starters. National NIL deals are for elite players. Arch Manning, and guys whose name actually add value. Basketball has 5 times the number. Everyone knows Boozer, Dysbanta, Caleb Wilson and all the other elites. Know what they look like. They are marketable. Football guys, not so much.
They are complaining that they don’t own their own rights after signing. No top player is going to have anyone tell them they aren’t free to make money the way they want to.
Christian Collins pretty public about it
It’s widely reported that is why Collins and Stokes didn’t sign. It’s out there read up on it. We don’t have a collective anymore so that hurts us as well. Other schools separate it, like it should be.
That sounds all great and noble. But we didn't get into bidding wars with this roster. And you see how it turned out.
UNC paid up for Caleb Wilson.
Michigan paid up for Yaxel.
We can die on that hill--that it's not what college athletics is supposed to be. But realize that's exactly what Kentucky basketball will do--die.
Well, I will always die on the hill for my principles. And I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the college landscape will adjust without NIL.
College will not adjust. Other schools are gladly bidding for players. Kentucky basketball will simply be what you see this year
But oddly not Kentucky football. It’s almost like you’re a bunch of cluleless mindless sheep.
The new lie is it actually helps football, just not basketball. Stop using “UK athletics” because Will Stein exposed the lies. Just say football doesn’t do NIL and pay they’re players with revshare so it only affects basketball. I know saying football doesn’t really do NIL is dumb but most people don’t even ask questions, they just accept the lie so go with it.
Bold of you to not even bother making a username to insult others.
I said nothing about football or JMI. Let’s block each other and move on. Your interactions are worse than worthless, they’re annoying.
Yes, anyone who doesn’t blindly believe your ignorance with zero substance to back it up is a JMI employee. I’m the president. My sincerest apologies for Will Stein ruining your lies. I’m sure you guys will rebound nicely and be back to spreading lies and negative recruiting UK in no time at all.
Yeah JMI is so great, all the basketball players are lining up for the deal of a lifetime huh? We have provided video and plenty of information regarding who said it and what players it involved including on3’s own insiders on this board who make predictions. You are the one making up nonsense. You are the only person in this thread who constantly takes up for this deal. You obviously have a stake in it.
No JMI is awful they do stuff and that handcuffs things, then there’s the language in the contracts. The language is absolutely insane, the language limits flexibility and stuff. No one can get behind that language and all the handcuff stuff that limits flexibility. Mark Pope was once one of the greatest recruiters in the country until he had to deal with language, flexibility, and handcuffing at JMI. No one can survive that… well except for Will Stein because we all know football doesn’t really rely on NIL, just the brand new rev share that UK uses to pay its football players that everyone else also uses to pay its football players but somehow gives UK a better chance to compete than ever before. That totally explains Will Stein killing it in the portal.
I didn’t say anything about recruiting being bad, those are your words. I does definitely have to be one of two options because nuance doesn’t exist.