Joe Lunardi needs fired for sure

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

 

[TrolliNC]

Lunardi is good at picking who makes it in, but has a fairly poor track record on seeding.

 

[wldctky_rivals70430]

he doesn't make the decisions...relax

 

[BobbyG_tickle_swerv]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

Isn't UNC the 5 seed in UK's bracket? Are you saying Duke's bracket is harder than UK's?

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Originally posted by BobbyG_tickle_swerv:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

Isn't UNC the 5 seed in UK's bracket? Are you saying Duke's bracket is harder than UK's?

Would you rather play Wichita State or UNC?

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Lot's of people agree with Joe tho

http://bracketmatrix.com/

5 is the most likely seed right now for UNC.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

UNC*** is overvalued by a lot of folks, not just Lunardi.

I think they should be no better than a 6 at the most, and as low as an 8th seed if they don't pick a win in the ACC-T.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Not saying UNC isn't 5 seed good, because they are. Just saying they DONT DESERVE that seed by their accomplishments or shortcomings in this case.

 

[lawrencekash]

Just one man's opinion and it doesn't count.

 

[BobbyG_tickle_swerv]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:

Originally posted by BobbyG_tickle_swerv:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

Isn't UNC the 5 seed in UK's bracket? Are you saying Duke's bracket is harder than UK's?

Would you rather play Wichita State or UNC?

I'm not sure. Who would you rather be in UK's bracket?

 

[UKCatsFan10]

Our current bracket sucks...

Nova's bracket isn't a cupcake.

Virginia's is soft.

Duke's...

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Tarholes best win is a one pointer at the Cheater Dome against little brother.

They've only won against the door mat ACC teams and cupcakes.

Overrated and soon to be vacated.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Originally posted by UKCatsFan10:

Our current bracket sucks...

Nova's bracket isn't a cupcake.

Virginia's is soft.

Duke's...

Pretty much my thoughts also. Arkansas or LSU could make possible runs to the Final Four in Joe's East and South brackets.

 

[anon_hvdd36eg5u05l]

One thing worth considering is whether his brackets are what HE personally thinks is correct or whether he's trying to PROJECT what the COMMITTEE will do.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Smash posted a really interesting link this morning showing a matrix with a wide breath of different projected brackets. The top 4 seeds in that matrix were UK, 'Nova, UVa, and Duke which had avg. seed #'s of 1, 1.01, 1.02, and 1.05 respectively. Then there was a very wide gap to the next team, Wisconsin, who's avg. seed was 1.95 followed closely by Arizona at 1.97. The point of all this of course is that Joe is far from the only one out there projecting Wisconsin as a 2, in fact the vast majority of them are. The next biggest gap in the averages was between Gonzaga, the last 2 at 2.03, and the first 3 Maryland at 3.09. It's clear there's a consensus Villanova is a 1, Wisconsin is a 2 as well as KU, and Maryland is a 3. I find that matrix much more telling than any one particular bracket prediction.
This post was edited on 3/9 12:33 PM by BoulderCat

 

[83Cat_rivals79182]

He's just making a living. Easiest job there is. Pure speculation and no one checks him when the actual selections take place. He's like a weatherman.

 

[GermantownDawg]

I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

 

[wcc31]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

UK had 9 losses and got a 2-seed in 2001.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

You luck out and get a 10 seed in Joe's current South bracket, you guys might go to the Final Four.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

Depending on what happens elsewhere, if the Dawgs are in the championship game Sunday, I think they could possibly make it as high as an 8. But remember, an 8 and 9 are bascially the same thing.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

Originally posted by wcc31:

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed? Joe thinks UNC deserves just that.
Do you think he's unfairly bracketing teams? Look at the 2,3 4, and 5 seeds in Duke's bracket, then ours. He has all those
-------easily surpassable West teams in that bracket. Guess what, that breaks geography silence, doesn't it??
Do you think he's being a little unfair with his bubble selections? Texas and Indiana in?? Really??
Do you think Oregon's seed should be rising?? Joe does. Up to a 7 now, for what reason?? AZ beat them by 34 pts.

Oh yeah, uh Joe, you're a douche bag. Get outta here. Glad you're word is not final, even though the committee isn't much better.

UK had 9 losses and got a 2-seed in 2001.

Had a 21-11 record in 2013 and didn't even make the tournament too.

 

[ColonelCat_rivals376764]

we had 12 losses 2 yrs. ago and didn't even get in. What a joke!!!

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

If you've got a pretty good team, it's better to have an 11 seed. You avoid the #1 and #2 seeds for a while.

 

[kyjeff1]

It's fine to disagree with the guy but don't you think you went a little too far by saying he should be fired and then calling him a douche bag? There's no reason for that. Jesus man, it's just his opinion, pump the brakes a little.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

He's a douche bag who tries to sway the committee to bracket like he does. That's a fact. He's been visibly aggravated in the past when the committee did different than he did.

This post was edited on 3/9 12:45 PM by yabbadabbadoo

This post was edited on 3/9 12:47 PM by yabbadabbadoo

 

[sonnyg333]

We were given a 8 seed last year...

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

More to your post OP, the further down the list you go into the lower seeds the more the averages start to widen. In the case
of Oregon, who Joe has as a 7, their average was 8.86, the last of the 8's, but UNC is a 5, in fact the highest of them averaging 4.7 so some out there have them as high as a 4. IU shows as an 11 with a 10.8 as does Texas with 10.65. UL averages out as a 4, and Arkansas as a 5. Obviously this, nor any of the single projection can predict what the committee does, but I'd bet the matrix will be closer than any one single projection. And of course it just deals with the seeds, not the matchup's. That's where the projections are often most wrong.

 

[dotcomok]

I don't think Joe's haircut is so bad that he needs to be fired...IMHO, that reaction is a little over the top.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

He doesn't always get the seeds right, but he is accurate with his field projections.

Lunardi would be way down on my list of who needs to be fired, which probably deserves a thread of its own.

 

[fatguy87]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Do you think we could have 10 losses and be a 5 seed?

We could if we played a schedule as difficult as UNC's.

In 2002, for example, we got a 4 seed with 9 losses because we played a very difficult schedule.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
It is clear to some of you that Lunardi works for ESPN, and is not affiliated with the selection committee? And as for influencing them, CBS is paying the billions of dollars for the tournament rights. I doubt the committee is bending much to cut ESPN any slack.

Seriously. Trying to influence the committee? Please. Conspiracy theories out the wazoo around here.

 

[Lumpy 2]

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

I think I would rather be a 10 seed as opposed to an 8 or 9 this year. If you get by the first round against the 10, the 2 seeds don't look like nearly as strong as the 1's this year and you will probably match up much better.

 

[bthaunert]

Joe is there for ratings and he obviously gets good ratings because people talk about it constantly. As others have said, Joe is good at picking the right teams, but not as good at picking the right seed. I've met Joe quite a few times, and he's a guy who found a niche and he gets good ratings. Over a 4 years period, Joe got 261 out of 266 teams right, but only got the seed correct about 44% of the time.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Originally posted by Lumpy 2:

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

I think I would rather be a 10 seed as opposed to an 8 or 9 this year. If you get by the first round against the 10, the 2 seeds don't look like nearly as strong as the 1's this year and you will probably match up much better.

If Georgia and Dook are both in the South and they very well may be, I think the Dawgs can take them. Dookies defense is laughable.

 

[GermantownDawg]

Originally posted by CatPhight:

Originally posted by Lumpy 2:

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

I think I would rather be a 10 seed as opposed to an 8 or 9 this year. If you get by the first round against the 10, the 2 seeds don't look like nearly as strong as the 1's this year and you will probably match up much better.

If Georgia and Dook are both in the South and they very well may be, I think the Dawgs can take them. Dookies defense is laughable.

We can make any team play some ugly basketball. I would love a shot at Duke.

 

[GermantownDawg]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:

Originally posted by GermantownDawg:
I think Georgia ends up being a 10 seed, which I'm okay with. He has us at a 9 seed and had us as an 8 seed up until last week.

You luck out and get a 10 seed in Joe's current South bracket, you guys might go to the Final Four.

I would cry.

 

[kyisinmyblood]

Originally posted by TrolliNC:
Lunardi is good at picking who makes it in, but has a fairly poor track record on seeding.

If were honest with ourselves theres only a handful of a teams legitimately on the bubble.. All of us on this board could do just as good a job at picking between the small handful of teams on the bubble.

This post was edited on 3/9 1:59 PM by kyisinmyblood

 

[Blueaz]

Originally posted by Roundballaddict:
One thing worth considering is whether his brackets are what HE personally thinks is correct or whether he's trying to PROJECT what the COMMITTEE will do.

this.....

 

[fuzz77]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
Not saying UNC isn't 5 seed good, because they are. Just saying they DONT DESERVE that seed by their accomplishments or shortcomings in this case.

So who deserves to be ahead of them? UNC (21-10, RPI 12)
Being a 5 seed means that you are ranked 17th-20th...the 6 seeds are Georgetown (20-9 RPI 21), Butler (22-9, PRI 25), Providence (21-10, RPI 23) and SMU (23-6, RPI 15. zero wins vs top 25).


The 2013 UK team that didn't make the tourney... 21-11, RPI 56, 12 of the wins were vs teams rated lower than 150th
The 2014 UK team that was an 8 seed... 24-10, RPI 16, only 6 games vs 150 or lower...
It matters who you play and if you lose, to whom you lose.

For those busting on Lunardi...put your brackets out there for us to compare and see who is more correct.

 

[kyisinmyblood]

Originally posted by bthaunert:
Joe is there for ratings and he obviously gets good ratings because people talk about it constantly. As others have said, Joe is good at picking the right teams, but not as good at picking the right seed. I've met Joe quite a few times, and he's a guy who found a niche and he gets good ratings. Over a 4 years period, Joe got 261 out of 266 teams right, but only got the seed correct about 44% of the time.

Its fairly easy to get good ratings when you have a stranglehold on the market, as ESPN does with sport news/media.

I also know Joe had a team a couple years back (I think Wright State if i'm not mistaken) in one of his early mock brackets. That team was ineligible for post season play. If thats your only job, you'd think you know the small list of teams ineligible for the post season. Especially one thats good enough to win its conference in a "one-bid league".

This post was edited on 3/9 2:10 PM by kyisinmyblood