He correctly predicted DeBoer to Bama
1) Curt Cignetti
2) Manny Diaz
3) Matt Rhule
4) Brian Hartline
1) Curt Cignetti
2) Manny Diaz
3) Matt Rhule
4) Brian Hartline
Joel Klatt gives 4 names for PSU HC
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Thanks for posting this. No to Manny and a hard NO to Rhule.
Me too. The more I look at his resume, the more I like.
It's the Kirby Smart path... Ruhl is 0-11 against top 10 teams.
I think the decision is back the armored truck up for Cignetti or give Hartline deal he can't turn down. Bo was an assistant at Ohio State
Cignetti ain't coming. Hartline will listen at least. My issue is that everyone on these lists that people want, won't be available until February and that's WAY WAY too late. The hire needs made in early December and not to a guy who won't arrive until February
No way Hartline is the next HC at PSU. Not sure where that name came from. This is his first year as an offensive coordinator. There is a huge difference between an offensive coordinator and running an entire program in the new era of NIL. That doesn't mean he won't one day be qualified to run a program. But today is not that day.
Well.... if Pat K has anything to do with it (and, of course, he will) the first contact will be with Rhule.
After that, who knows? (Certainly not Klatt)
After that, who knows? (Certainly not Klatt)
Hartline and many others can accept the job and finish their duties while putting together a staff. Literally no one wouldn't be available until February
Kirby Smart says otherwise
Not a huge fan but Freeman went from DC to HC and beat Franklin in his 11th year
Ryan Day wasn't exactly proven
I’s be surprised if it isn’t Rhule, like it or not. Knowing that he would come here is what probably made the decision for Kraft to pull the plug. I just hope Rhule puts together a better staff, Nittany nation cannot have John Butler back here as defensive coordinator, no effing way.
Looked in at the Black Shoe Diaries thread on this and shuddered.
Many mentioning Al Golden unironically
Many mentioning Al Golden unironically
If the goal is to win titles as stated then Rhule and Golden are out
Rhule's biggest "danger signs" IMO:
1) Putting together a decent staff (of course, he would get a blank check here at PSU - but I can't imagine UNL were tightwads, and his staff there stinks)
2) His gameday management? Whew! If PSU fans got unhappy with HCJF from time to time, they will lose their noodles over Rhule (He is a horrendous game management guy - and makes HCJF, who I didn't think was generally any worse than many, look like a savant in that area)
3) Of course, there is the "never beats ranked teams" thing - but I think a lot of that is the points he gives away on gameday fubars.
He would have to either overcome/improve those things, or make up for it in other areas.
You don’t hire just to hire. If Hartline is the guy and that means waiting until OSU makes another deep run or wins it all, we wait.
You clearly haven’t looked at Dan Lanning’s resume based on your comment.
Hartline does check the recruiting box. Give him two great coordinators and see what happens. He’ll bring the talent. Kind of similar to Lanning/Oregon.
Surprised Kingsbury isnt a name popping up
What about Clif Kingsberry? He’s been a HC in college now and OC with a hot NFL team. Could be interesting
Hartline is an OSU alum, has no head coaching experience and is in his 1st year as an OC. Nothing that he has done is remotely close to HC of a major program. Big gamble. That all said Hartline is probably the best WR coach/recruiter in CFB.
Of course he may not desire the nil climate of college. I would think any pro coach would want to stay on the pros unless they have no options avail to them. Franklin I believe was paid commensurate with many nfl coachs so the job may pay equal or better to some pro jobs.
I saw that. Cinetti is the hottest coach in the land and will be a tough get but it can be done. Diaz imo is not the guy Rhule neither.
As one podcaster said about Ruhle being exchanged for Franklin would be like saying here's a dollar, but you have to give me 4 quarters. I agree.
Hartline, I see as interesting, but do we take a chance on anyone who is not a proven winner and a very strong recruiter as a HC?
I'm pretty sure that's the plan and Kraft seemed to indicate he's willing to open the bank for the next hire. Hope it works.
This year has already been sacrificed so waiting until Cignetti's year is done is no big deal to me. Plus, if Cignetti goes deep into the playoffs, then his stock only explodes and makes it harder for Indiana to retain him.
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Please not Rhule he's proven to be a worse winner than Franklin. I would take Schiano before I'd take Rhule.
We need Cignetti. I think Krafty can get him.
Hartline doesn't really call the shots as the OC I think he's a wee bit micromanaged.
Rhule has not had the talent that Big Game James had. I don't know his career that close to comment on your point that he is a terrible in game coach. Do you have examples?
Rhule to me seems kind of like Franklin 2.0
Really good talker, but I don’t think he’s that great of a strategist/GameDay coach. not sure if he’s the guy to get you over the top.
PSU to me needs to hire an innovative offensive mind. They aren’t going to out talent OSU. It’s going to take superior coaching to beat them.
If Franklin is a dollar bill, Rhule is four Canadian quarters.
I'll get laughed at, but I'm a little surprised Dabo isn't mentioned at all. Yes, he's a southern boy and the results haven't been great the last few years, but hear me out. You want a big name, a big shakeup, Dabo could be interesting. He doesn't get to take the job unless he embraces the portal and let's try to separate the coach from the personality(which people seem to really disdain). You are talking about a guy that has literally won 2 national championships in the last decade. Outside of these unrealistic candidates like Saban and Urban, who can you say has been to the mountain top(twice) in the last decade? Am I impressed with Elko or Drinkwitz....fun throwing out names like Hartline and Will Stein.....but if you want a guy that has taken an average program to the absolute top, I don't know how you don't at least call Dabo. Its all about recency bias, Cig is the greatest coach of all time, okay. Again, separate Dabo from his personality traits, just on paper, can any reasonable candidate compare? The dude beat stacked ALabama teams before NIL, with recruits not transfers. He can recruit like crazy, weve lost plenty of them to him....he knows what a championship team looks like. I'm not advocating for him, just surprised he isn't even mentioned on peoples lists. He built Clemson, but didnt go to school there.....maybe he could use a restart.
I have a list of 4 and 4 only:
1. Cignetti
2. Urban
3. Kiffin
4. Drinkwitz
This doesn't concern me as much when you look at people like Lanning, Kirby, Debo, etc... If you have a very good HC to set the example on how to run a team it's not difficult to take that blueprint when you become HC. Hartline has been at OSU for a good stretch and has seen Ryan Day do many things from recruiting, to handling off the field issues, locker room issues, preparing team for the playoffs and natty, gameplans, the list goes on and on. Hartline has been the main reruiter at OSU and crushes it. Guy has been turning out all american WR's like a factory that get drafted high. Now he has strong input on the offensive scheme and calling plays. He has relationships already with all the high school coaches where he will be recruiting. I think you could much worse than Hartline and I don't see many with better qualifications. Maybe Cignetti and a few others. The key for me would be what staff he hires. He would have the resources and money to get good ones assuming he makes good decisions. He also has seen how Ryan Day goes about that since OSU has changeover in coaches fairly frequently.
As long as Pat says something to Rhule along the lines of: “Hey buddy, if our top choices won’t come, can I at least count on you?”
Why do we care what any of these people say. Top 3 tell us something we don’t know.
Hartline’s best attributes appear to be recruiting and developing WRs. If he is still as involved in that process as a head coach, then there are probably other problems.
Some big names are being thrown around as potential options for the Nittany Lions, but Fox Sports college football analyst Joel Klatt, while naming some of the coaches that you'd expect, dropped a coordinator's name that seemingly came out of left field.
Klatt believes Ohio State Buckeyes' offensive coordinator Brian Hartline should be an option for Penn State.
The front-runner for NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, Emeka Egbuka appeared on "The Pat McAfee Show" on Oct. 8 to discuss his big game against the Seattle Seahawks. Egbuka hauled in seven catches for 163 yards and a touchdown, beating out his former teammate and Seahawks wide receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba to lead all receivers in yards during the Buccaneers' 38-25 win.
Another news story on Hartline....
"Coach Hart [Brian Hartline] expects more out of you than you expect of yourself sometimes," Egbuka said about his former coach.
Egbuka leads all NFL rookies in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. He additionally ranks fourth in receiving yards among all players; Smith-Njigba sits at the No. 2 spot with 534 yards. The third-year receiver for the Seahawks had eight receptions for 132 yards and a touchdown in the loss.
"I think a lot of the success that you see from the Ohio State receivers is a reflection of coach Hartline's mentality," Egbuka said, "And it's not that he made us that way, but he recruits like-minded individuals, people who are perfectionists and want the most out of their career that they can get."
Klatt believes Ohio State Buckeyes' offensive coordinator Brian Hartline should be an option for Penn State.
The front-runner for NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, Emeka Egbuka appeared on "The Pat McAfee Show" on Oct. 8 to discuss his big game against the Seattle Seahawks. Egbuka hauled in seven catches for 163 yards and a touchdown, beating out his former teammate and Seahawks wide receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba to lead all receivers in yards during the Buccaneers' 38-25 win.
Another news story on Hartline....
"Coach Hart [Brian Hartline] expects more out of you than you expect of yourself sometimes," Egbuka said about his former coach.
Egbuka leads all NFL rookies in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. He additionally ranks fourth in receiving yards among all players; Smith-Njigba sits at the No. 2 spot with 534 yards. The third-year receiver for the Seahawks had eight receptions for 132 yards and a touchdown in the loss.
"I think a lot of the success that you see from the Ohio State receivers is a reflection of coach Hartline's mentality," Egbuka said, "And it's not that he made us that way, but he recruits like-minded individuals, people who are perfectionists and want the most out of their career that they can get."