Jordan Lathon makes ESPN Top 10 plays #1
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And the athletic department would look really different if the students discovered what he was accused of and he was on campus absent being completely exonerated. Students would demand Collins, AD and President all be fired regardless of how they tried to spin it. That’s just how NU works. So yeah there’s that.
Sure, just like the students responded powerfully to the screamer getting silenced.
And what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. What a joke. This, like many of the Constitutional protections worth their salt, means nothing anymore. It seems like the only thing the Constitution does is keep slavery banished, women voting and guns in the hands of everybody - sane or otherwise.
I read about a theory of a coup plot in the news yesterday. One that would have been led by the FBI and said #fakenews. Not in this Democracy, not with our great Constitution and Government. Actually, not sure many folks would really care anymore.
It wasn't a criminal trial. The athletic department is perfectly within its rights to let him go if there was misconduct. I have no information about the incident that got Lathon dropped and speculation about it is foolish without knowing the particulars.
No its actually pretty simple. There is no way that given any allegations of wrongdoing (proven or not) against a recruit that NU can take a isk and bring him on campus. The downside at a place like NU is way to great. Let's say Collins believed 100% that Lathon was innocent but then law enforcement opened a case and it became public in late October. Collins would be crucified in the media and likely fired. I think that Phillips and even Morty would have been in trouble. NU community simply would not accept any excuse from Collins and this is regardless of the ultimate outcome. I truly believe this was the calculation made by Collins and NU. UTEP appears to be the only school that figured differently. I can come up with a number of theories as to why but not one of them help NU or SMU or any other school that looked at Lathon after NU dropped him.
So yeah, I wish Lathon well and hope the storm passes but I understand why NU did what it did.
It's especially painful because with a good lead guard, we'd be a tournament contender. But ... yeah.
Innocent until proven guilty is related to criminal trials. It does not relate to rescinding a scholarship offer, which is ultimately a privilege at the discretion of the university. If you have broader concerns about the constitution and it's role in America today, please take that to a political forum as we try to keep this to sports. Thanks
I really hate that. It wasn't criminal trial - meaning my standards are different than the US standards. I think that also sucks. If you live, do business, operate in the US, and enjoy the freedoms and privileges given to you by our Founding Fathers, then you should use the same standards.
Realistic - no. But still sucks. Thank goodness everyone is getting hit with this kinda crap so they all get to feel it in their personal lives or the lives of their family. Perhaps some day, we will choose to go back to our roots.
Agree except when applicable to a sports item - like now. When the topics cross, they are fair for discussion here.
i think it would have played out much differently had Lathon already been a student at NU
Haywood, out of morbid curiousity, do you have a sense of how appealing NU was to Ayo? That is to say, if Lathon hadn’t committed when he did, and Ayo took the visit he had planned, what are the odds that Collins lands him instead of Underwood?
i have heard that NU has a long way to go to get kids from that AAU program, and they wont get into "business" for kids
the way NU works? that's the way society works. Look at all the times in the past where schools have fired coaches over covering/trying to cover something up! NU is not any different in that aspect
Sports topics yes. Neither one of us knows what happened. NU admin does and they rarely rescind a scholarship so on what basis would we question their judgment?
It’s amazing that anyone is still clamoring for Lathon to be on campus, given the allegations.
It’s looking more and more like it won’t end up going public. And I’m certainly not going to be the person that lets it out.
Yeah but many times the schools themselves are complicit in the coverups. NU is different from those schools and isn't about to start taking actions that would damage that reputation.
Then why is it amazing that people are clamoring when the majority don't know what you think you know?
Haywood I think your one sentence statement says it all about recruiting in the city. Just stay away from that crowd.
We have a bunch of posters proudly proclaiming that they're in a club and they want you to know they're in the club and they want you to know you're not in the club. And more and more posters are now proclaiming that they're in the club, and Big Ten Network announcers are apparently in the club, and they probably have their own club too.
So yeah, the secret doesn't seem to be well-kept since the club membership appears to be ballooning. I'm learning every time with each new Lathon thread that there are new initiates to the club. It's only a matter of time until the wrong person gets in the club and spills the beans for a bit of attention. Because after all, I can see from all the vocal members of the club here that some of you do, in fact, crave attention, otherwise we wouldn't know you're in the club. And even if you all do keep your mouths shut, well, somebody invited Big Ten Network announcers to the club, and they have no particular allegiance to Northwestern, so I fear it's only a matter of time before it gets out anyway.
If this is something that should be kept secret, then shame on all of you who have spread it around.
Some of us know through contracts or friends. Just know this...it was a no-win situation for Collins. If he’d kept him and the info came out, it would have been very, very bad for NU.
I have no doubt that NU made the right decision. I just wish I knew what the offense was.
As an aside, there were times my Company terminated someone for a breach of ethics or for cause. We on the Management Team always said behind closed doors this would set an example of our standards. Yet we never released what the individual did to get themselves axed, so how would this serve as an "example"??? There is no right answer, but I think the benefit of transparency slightly outweighs that of privacy. Rumors inevitably fill the void of "no comment".....
It’s an example because in the Corporate world the real story almost always leaks. It’s usually not a bad thing for the Corporate Manageteam when it does.
Isn't that because you along with everyone not named Lathon, Collins, Phillips, Morty and the "victim" don't know what happened?
My reference to the way NU works is a product of having a student at NU and hearing him discuss his dealings on campus. But yes, there is a reason every power 5 school with an opening on their roster acted the same way NU did. Lathon is a real talent and in a business where winning is the only thing, you can bet that schools vetted the situation extensively.
i go to NU now and im sure the reaction here wouldn't be much different than if this happened elsewhere. But yes, for everyone saying he was dropped for dumb reasons, don't you think Mizzou, Texas Tech, Louisville, Nebraska or many of the other schools that contacted him would've gone for him then? There's a reason he fell so far.
Aren't we all friends or contacts here? Somebody fill us poor schleps the scoop. It already counts as being in the public domain.
I predict UTEP will make the NCAA Tournament again before Northwestern does. It will be their 18th time.
Assuming you are not being sarcastic, I will take that wager,. Screenname bet?