Jordan Watson, yikes...
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Who's Jordan Watson?
I don't see anything wrong with calling out players that are not performing. Stop treating them with kid gloves. Stoops isn't the first coach to do this.
I don't see anything wrong with calling out players that are not performing. Stop treating them with kid gloves. Stoops isn't the first coach to do this.
^For the program. Just not a good look to have former players bashing the head coach. Then again, the play on the field is what has damaged the program the most.
Criticizing players (employees) in public as opposed to private was a no no when I took management 101. But your right, coaches do this a lot.
So let me see if I have this right.....a washout hack from the Joker era is not pleased with the coach that took his guy's place? File this in the "opinions are like armpits, everybody got one" Thanks for playing Jordan, now crawl back under your rock
What did he say that was wrong? Quite frankly stoops just sucks. Doesn't matter who your previous coach was. Any and everyone can see that stoops sucks. You don't have to fit some sort of criteria in which you gotta be THIS cool in order to have an opinion of a certain coach sucking. As far as I'm concerned. Anyone who can complete a sentence, has the right to say stoops sucks. It's not a lie. Regardless of how much of a nobody someone may be. If they're not blind they can tell stoops sucks.
You're correct but usually when coaches do this, they have credibility. Phil Jackson was famous for it but he has plenty of rings you could kiss if you didn't like it.
When you don't have credibility, you look like the hind end of mule and that's what Stoops looks like
He didn't say anything wrong. He's irrelevant to quote though. Everyone entitled to their opinion, but what JW says doesn't do anything for the case.
If Saban throws his players under the bus is that ok? When leach goes off on his players at press conferences is that ok? Is it only acceptable if you are winning? Or should a coach never call out his players or place blame on them when losing? Honest questions. I personally don't have a problem with it.
For a first time HC who's accomplished nothing, he really should STFU until he's garnered the gravitas for people to believe where blame should be placed.
Reading this thread is indicative of how the rest of the SEC could care less about U.K. We are nothing more than a preferred October road trip to see the fall colors and visit Keeneland. And, oh yes, enjoy a blowout win over U.K.
However, I did notice in the early college basketball yearbooks, we are in the top five and not a single SEC program is anywhere near the top 25.
Do you think outside of Lexington, the rest of the SEC lives, breathes and dies by football? They live and die 24/7 every day of the year.
We recruit "elite" athletes across the spectrum of UK athletics. We are squeaky clean, academically successful and our Olympic sports are among the most successful in the SEC and nationally. Basketball is off the charts successful. Football, as always, remains second class despite facilities and tributes.
The old gravedigger has been called to dig yet another place for our latest coach. The clock is ticking.
I honestly don't think anyone here would have even known or cared that he said this if op hadn't posted it. Dudes an absolute nobody.
OK. What does this have to do with JW, the thread subject matter? & why your silly question to me? And why quote me?
His opinion is no more valid and valued than any on this board. If we were winning and Stoops called players out on a regular basis you think he would be saying anything? Quite frankly I'm glad Stoops has started speaking out publicly about how bad we are and telling us an the players what we already know. Before now he has given 'canned' responses as to why we're so inept as a team. His trick bag of excuses is about empty and I'm glad he is responding to questioning as if his time has ran out and he is going down swinging.
It's OK for succesful coaches to do this. If a coach historically has been successful and calls out a player then most realize it's the player (s) thats the problem.
Stoops hasn't earned that yet. It just comes across as finger pointing, excuse making, and a man trying to get his arse off the hot seat.
Is it fair? Idk but it's just the way it is.
I don't necessarily disagree with him, but to quote him is like quoting a dude you met at a gas station.
I love the crowd that says it is wrong for Stoops to do it but it is ok for others.
What I get out of that is what most of society does these days. Everything is wrong, unless it supports my agenda. Then it is ok.
What I get out of that is what most of society does these days. Everything is wrong, unless it supports my agenda. Then it is ok.
The reason is because it's not working for Stoops as his players are not responding in a positive manner.
No wonder we suck every year. That dude is the weakest looking 303 pounder I've ever seen.
Are you talking about how stoops talking about his players sucking and throwing them under the bus, if so, if he's allowed to say his players suck. Then everyone, and I mean everyone has the right to speak the TRUTH and say stoops sucks. Stoops did it towards his players. So why can't the fans do it to the sucky coach that calls his sucky players sucky? I honestly I'm just in shock that you think people who say stoops sucks, have an agenda. But what is it when stoops calls his sucky players sucky? Is that an even da to buy himself more time by blaming it on his players and not himself. Either way. The coach is supposed to take blame for his players to the media. Especially in college. A coach who throw his players under the bus. Is a coach that doesn't know what he's doing. You brought these players in, so why throw them under the bus? If you brought sucky players in that you have to tell the media they suck then maybe stoops is the one who truly sucks.
What's funny to me is, he's willing to call his players sucky to the media, but he won't say that about himself? Which in turn forces us to shove the fact he sucks in his face. But I guess to you that's called an agenda? You crack me up with this agenda talk, but it's not an agenda when stoops calls his players sucky!?!?! You brought these guys in, sucks to suck don't it stoops? Oh wait he gets paid millions and millions to suck major donkey lug nutz. The difference in stoops calling his players sucky, and us calling stoops a terrible sucky head coach. Is the fact stoops is the one who gets paid millions and millions to be a sucky coach who brings in sucky players on the side of the ball that he's supposedly a mastermind at. Stoops defensive prowess has proven to be, well, the opposite of defensive prowess. I refuse to believe stoops is a defensive specialist after watching our defense.
So for stoops to call his players sucky. Is just sad to me at this point, he calls them sucky, yet he recruited them to play here. And the players he called sucky, the difference between them and stoops. Is that those players don't get paid millions to suck, stoops does though. Stoops gets paid millions to be a sucky coach who brings in sucky players that suck so much he's willing to go to the media and tell everyone just how much the players he recruited suck. But why doesn't he go to the media and talk about how much he sucks and why he's getting paid millions to suck and bring in sucky players since he's completely willing to get paid millions and go completely out of his way to the media about just how much the players he brought in suck? Oh that's just stoops agenda which is completely fine in the eyes of a stoops apologist. All that proves to me is that he's as terrible of a coach as I've always believed him to be. And this couldn't do a better job at proving that. And that you couldn't be a worse poster than you already are.
You've reached the pentacle of terribleness merriman, congrats. You and stoops are equal in different ways. To put it bluntly, you're the mark stoops of posters on this board. Cuz your agenda is to prove to everyone stoops doesn't suck and that its ok for him to call his players sucky but those who call stoops, the one who gets paid millions to suck. Those who echo those sentiments have an agenda. But when stoops does it to the media about his own players it's not an agenda? You always talk about these agenda's. Makes me wonder if you know what an agenda is. Or you just believe the ones who think stoops suck have an agenda, but those who always stand up for him no matter how right or wrong he is someone like yourself, apparently that's not an agenda?
You have the biggest agenda on this board merriman, do not get that twisted. You try and shove pro stoops talk down people's throats everyday when the man obviously sucks. But that's not an agenda only the ones who think he sucks have an agenda. Totally merriman. Youre as clueless a ive always thought you've been. Stoops continues to coach a sucky team full of his players, yet the ones who think him and his sucky team that stoops said himself suck, those fans have an agenda, even though the team we say sucks stoops himself even said sucks. But we have an agenda for saying he and his team suck. But you don't have an agenda for saying stoops doesn't suck and that his players that make up the team that stoops coaches doesn't suck? Or, let me guess? It's not stoops fault that his team sucks, it's the players he brought in's fault? You have more of an agenda than anyone else. We're over here speaking facts, while you praise stoops with your pro stoops agenda when it's become painfully obvious that he's not the man for the job. This has become pathetic merriman, honestly.
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Me either. I've got zero problem with Stoops calling the players out publicly. These aren't kids; they are young men being paid to perform. Yes being paid. Most of them have likely been coddled and pampered all through high school because of their athletic talents. It's time to grow the hell up and take their responsibilities seriously. If it takes Stoops calling them out publicly, so be it.
It would be nice if we had so much depth at every position, Stoops had the ability to bench every player not giving his all in practice and in games. We don't. Which means Stoops has to find a way to correct the problems. Stoops is a good defensive coach. Has a reputation for it. If you think he all of a sudden forgot how to coach when he came to UK, you simply do not understand how the game of football works.
This is the first time I have seen him call them out like that in the media. Hiw do you know it isn't going to work?