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ShortCreek

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I’m a huge Jurich fan, but can also admit (unlike some) he made mistakes along the way. That being said, yesterday’s news that UConn’s 2018 athletic revenue totaled $40 million, but their expenses came in at $80 million was an eye opener.

Tom Jurich built and saved our program - plain and simple. He still made some big blunders but the good far outweighed the bad.

Thank you Tom, let’s build the statue.
 

GOCARDS6

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I don’t think any rational fan denies the greatness Jurich produced. Even with his blunders it’s still worth it in my book, I’m not old enough to remember but I have seen pictures of the athletic venues from before his time and wow what a change. What gives Jurich the bad name on here in the 2 or 3 blind followers than say he was a saint, news flash not one overly successful businessman is a saint...
 

zipp_rivals

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The lasting comparisons are just beginning.

The above info is that UConn lost $40 million on athletics last year. U of L lost $17 million as well.

Don't say it can't happen here...
 

ShortCreek

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The lasting comparisons are just beginning.

The above info is that UConn lost $40 million on athletics last year. U of L lost $17 million as well.

Don't say it can't happen here...
ACC Network will right that ship, short term or long term remains to be seen.
 

KozmasAgain

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I am a Jurich supporter but I never said he was a Saint I did say he accomplished more than all the other AD’s before him and that is true. When I say that I mean if you take all the accomplishments of all the other AD’s and combine them Jurich still did more.
 
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KerryRhodes

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I am a Jurich supporter but I never said he was a Saint I did say he accomplished more than all the other AD’s before him and that is true. When I say that I mean if you take all the accomplishments of all the other AD’s and combine them Jurich still did more.

His failures equal his great accomplishments, otherwise he'd still be here.

Yes coaches fail on the field/court however
the failure to fire the jackass or the unnecessary golden parachute for the 14 million dollar man , set back both programs for years.
 

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just remember, jurich didn't fire pitino when he cheated on his wife, didn't fire pitino when the powell scandal happened, didn't fire pitino when our title was vacated, didn't fire pitino over the addidas scandal, all of which have brought national embarrassment to our school. jurich didn't impose any penalties for the wake forest cheating scandal,. rehired petrino after he screwed us over and after he also cheated on his wife, and we still face ncaa penalties with the possibility of the death penalty, all happened under his watch and direction, and he defended men who cheated on their wives and supported them in every way. in essence jurich had very little morals, just win and screw everything else. nice pretty buildings though. like saying he was a great guy if you don't mind he left the university in the worst place it has ever been. but hey, nice buildings.
 

KerryRhodes

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just remember, jurich didn't fire pitino when he cheated on his wife, didn't fire pitino when the powell scandal happened, didn't fire pitino when our title was vacated, didn't fire pitino over the addidas scandal, all of which have brought national embarrassment to our school. jurich didn't impose any penalties for the wake forest cheating scandal,. rehired petrino after he screwed us over and after he also cheated on his wife, and we still face ncaa penalties with the possibility of the death penalty, all happened under his watch and direction, and he defended men who cheated on their wives and supported them in every way. in essence jurich had very little morals, just win and screw everything else. nice pretty buildings though. like saying he was a great guy if you don't mind he left the university in the worst place it has ever been. but hey, nice buildings.

Game
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CardsFirst

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I’m a huge Jurich fan, but can also admit (unlike some) he made mistakes along the way. That being said, yesterday’s news that UConn’s 2018 athletic revenue totaled $40 million, but their expenses came in at $80 million was an eye opener.

Tom Jurich built and saved our program - plain and simple. He still made some big blunders but the good far outweighed the bad.

Thank you Tom, let’s build the statue.

No argument here. They way he handled the media was spot on also.
 

CardsFirst

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"Vince" is demonstrating in spades how big those shoes were to fill...

Really? I’m pretty happy with how things are going. Besides Vince hasn’t been here long enough to even recover from the mess TJ and Pitino left. I compare TJ to the previous administration not the current one. Vince hasn’t completed his tenure, so he has time. But they are big shoes and it didn’t matter who we hired.
 

zipp_rivals

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Really? I’m pretty happy with how things are going. Besides Vince hasn’t been here long enough to even recover from the mess TJ and Pitino left. I compare TJ to the previous administration not the current one. Vince hasn’t completed his tenure, so he has time. But they are big shoes and it didn’t matter who we hired.
What I know is there is $17 million less in those shoes (as of 6-30-18) and thousands of fewer fans. I guess some people haven't bought the Kool Aid...
 

KerryRhodes

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Again, if you say so. But, you would be wrong. Anyone who thinks we're better off without Tom Jurich as our AD doesn't know their *** from third base regarding major collegiate athletics.

JP

To hell with jurich.

His legacy is failure to discipline the jackass and rehiring a thief.
Thus a basketball program burnt to the ground and football damn near smashed

You jurich worshippers need to clean youlls windshields
 

gocds

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The comparisons of Tom Jurich and AD Tyra are unfair, unfounded and unnecessary. They are two different men from two different backgrounds. Tom Jurich did wonderful things here but he did, in fact, allow Pitino free reign over too much stuff. Now that’s not to say that he wouldn’t have fired Pitino over the adidas payoff scheme but who knows and will we ever know. AD Tyra will make mistakes just as TJ made errors but he does deserve the opportunity to do things his way. And so far I think he doing a pretty good job. Yes we are “behind” in the numbers of fans that are paying and attending but it will take time to rebuild our “local” brand especially with zero help from the local media. If it’s possible to be negative you can depend on them (the local media) to be all over it. That’s just not the case in other markets.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
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ShortCreek

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What I know is there is $17 million less in those shoes (as of 6-30-18) and thousands of fewer fans. I guess some people haven't bought the Kool Aid...
IMO the fewer fans have about 20% to do with Jurich being let go. I think the bulk of fans are fatigued with rising/crazy costs, fatigued by scandals and want a top shelf winning product on the field/court. For the most part it doesn’t have jack **** to do with Jurich.
 

gocds

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Mikes Marbles hit the nail on the head. We are NOT in the ACC without Tom Jurich and his vision for UofL athletics. It’s that simple.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 

zipp_rivals

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IMO the fewer fans have about 20% to do with Jurich being let go. I think the bulk of fans are fatigued with rising/crazy costs, fatigued by scandals and want a top shelf winning product on the field/court. For the most part it doesn’t have jack **** to do with Jurich.
No, I think it has mostly to do with the clown show. If they had brought in a qualified AD who respected the way things had been done and tried to maintain as much of that as possible, a lot of fans and money would still be in the boat.

Instead, the clowns have rejected just about everything--right down to the NCAA banners--and refused to change strategy. They're getting exactly what they deserve, which is rejection. And unless THEY change IMO, that response won't be changing anytime soon. I'm glad to see it although I wish fans would still pay as little as possible and keep supporting the players and coaches by attending games...
 

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No, I think it has mostly to do with the clown show. If they had brought in a qualified AD who respected the way things had been done and tried to maintain as much of that as possible, a lot of fans and money would still be in the boat.

Instead, the clowns have rejected just about everything--right down to the NCAA banners--and refused to change strategy. They're getting exactly what they deserve, which is rejection. And unless THEY change IMO, that response won't be changing anytime soon. I'm glad to see it although I wish fans would still pay as little as possible and keep supporting the players and coaches by attending games...
Keep this delusional thought going, it’s fascinating. Keyword of this diatribe of non-sense. “You think” it has to do with the “clown show”. Never mind the real clown show that occurred in the past, that got us where we are. Cause and effect is really not a difficult concept to grasp. Then again, I am talking to you..
 
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zipp_rivals

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Keep this delusional thought going, it’s fascinating. Keyword of this diatribe of non-sense. “You think” it has to do with the “clown show”. Never mind the real clown show that occurred in the past, that got us where we are. Cause and effect is really not a difficult concept to grasp. Then again, I am talking to you..
So when do people get smart about how great the new regime is and start supporting it? Oh yeah, that's not a dot you can connect...
 

UL_1986

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So when do people get smart about how great the new regime is and start supporting it? Oh yeah, that's not a dot you can connect...
When we start consistently winning. After all we went through regarding the whole Pitino and Jurich scandal, then having an interim come in and coach a top 7 program for the first time, at a high level in the ACC and not make the tourney, most casual fans weren’t used to that. To be fair, no one should be accustomed to that. Things take time to sort out, but you’re a pessimist and pray for the demise of this new leaf that’s been turned over, so it’s kind of pointless to discuss or have any rational discourse with you. I just like poking the baby cub.
 
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gocds

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So when do people get smart about how great the new regime is and start supporting it? Oh yeah, that's not a dot you can connect...

Uh zipp it is a “dot” I can connect. I don’t expect AD Tyra to be Tom Jurich. Anyone that does is just being unrealistic or even a bit silly. Vince Tyra will have his own successes. First thing, he doesn’t have ANY worries about facilities as TJ took care of all of that. Coaching replacements and compliance with the rules will be his legacy. And I just happen to think he’s on the right path.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 

zipp_rivals

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When we start consistently winning. After all we went through regarding the whole Pitino and Jurich scandal, then having an interim come in and coach a top 7 program for the first time, at a high level in the ACC and not make the tourney, most casual fans weren’t used to that. To be fair, no one should be accustomed to that. Things take time to sort out, but you’re a pessimist and pray for the demise of this new leaf that’s been turned over, so it’s kind of pointless to discuss or have any rational discourse with you. I just like poking the baby cub.
Last time I checked, the basketball team was on the fringe of the Top 25 with some pretty nice wins on its resume. And more than 7,000 empty seats at its last home game.

"Not winning" is an excuse...
 
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zipp_rivals

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Uh zipp it is a “dot” I can connect. I don’t expect AD Tyra to be Tom Jurich. Anyone that does is just being unrealistic or even a bit silly. Vince Tyra will have his own successes. First thing, he doesn’t have ANY worries about facilities as TJ took care of all of that. Coaching replacements and compliance with the rules will be his legacy. And I just happen to think he’s on the right path...
Well, we all better HOPE "Vince" is on the right path.

But image and message must be a problem at some level because you can't otherwise explain this much money and this many fans staying away from what is supposedly a program on the mend and in good hands.

Unless it's education, what we're seeing makes sense only if you're rationalizing or in denial...
 

CardX

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I’m a huge Jurich fan, but can also admit (unlike some) he made mistakes along the way. That being said, yesterday’s news that UConn’s 2018 athletic revenue totaled $40 million, but their expenses came in at $80 million was an eye opener.

Tom Jurich built and saved our program - plain and simple. He still made some big blunders but the good far outweighed the bad.

Thank you Tom, let’s build the statue.

UCONN AD considering eliminating some sports as a result.
 
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KozmasAgain

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My main concern is the money, Jurich bought in large amounts of money where as Tyra is not. I don't see how you can be a Louisville fan and not be concerned by this. I think Tyra has done an OK job at best and in the long run I hope he is a success.
 

gocds

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I'm already on record that U of L golf teams are on death watch...

OH horse muffins zipp. That ain’t gonna happen and you should know better.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 

zipp_rivals

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OH horse muffins zipp. That ain’t gonna happen and you should know better...
I hope it doesn't happen, but hope has nothing to do with it. Golf is an easy decision for "Vince" since he's obviously gonna have to cut budgets. You can get rid of an equal number of scholarships and obsolete a facility that's costing you serious money to operate. And golf is nowhere close to the stature of many other U of L programs.

I predict it's gone in a few years. And when I'm wrong on timing issues, it's usually being too optimistic...
 

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Last time I checked, the basketball team was on the fringe of the Top 25 with some pretty nice wins on its resume. And more than 7,000 empty seats at its last home game.

"Not winning" is an excuse...
Louisville is a top ten program historically. A proud program. Who gets excited about being a fringe top 25 team?

It isn’t rocket science and the average fan doesn’t care who puts on a suite and tie and works behind the scenes. Just win.

If you are trying to convince people that folks aren’t attending games because of who the Arhletic Director is then you are out of touch. That’s ridiculous.
 
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UL_1986

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Louisville is a top ten program historically. A proud program. Who gets excited about being a fringe top 25 team?

It isn’t rocket science and the average fan doesn’t care who puts on a suite and tie and works behind the scenes. Just win.

If you are trying to convince people that folks aren’t attending games because of who the Arhletic Director is then you are out of touch. That’s ridiculous.
This post makes way too much sense for this board.