Just a thought

roadtrasheer

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After hearing about the retirement of a left leaning S.C & watching the extreme left & the extreme right the last couple years & our elected officials who won't learn to bend a little or meet in the middle is it possible that they over power those of us who can work together & start a civil war or lots of violence & draw us independent folks in & make us choose a side ..
P.s.. I'm sure I didn't articulate this in a very good way .
 

79eer

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is it possible that they over power those of us who can work together & start a civil war or lots of violence & draw us independent folks in & make us choose a side ..
Anything is possible. Hell, ....remember when some Wing Nuts actually fell for “Russian Collusion”.
 
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Anything is possible. Hell, ....remember when some Wing Nuts actually fell for “Russian Collusion”.

Remember when a President denied the interference of Russia in our election? And said he knew more than all of the Intelligence agencies? And never did anything about the interference?
 

MountaineerWV

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I think it's a better possibility that either one of these two scenarios happen:

1. Trump is impeached & convicted, but refused to leave office and attempts a coup de tat.

2. Trump loses reelection in 2020, refused to leave office, and attempts a coup de tat.

:popcorn:
 

wvu2007

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I think it's a better possibility that either one of these two scenarios happen:

1. Trump is impeached & convicted, but refused to leave office and attempts a coup de tat.

2. Trump loses reelection in 2020, refused to leave office, and attempts a coup de tat.

:popcorn:

LOL
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Remember when a President denied the interference of Russia in our election? And said he knew more than all of the Intelligence agencies? And never did anything about the interference?
Pffffft, the actual President, your messiah, put the brakes on any kind of response, Defense or countermeasures. This President is actually doing stuff about it.
 

79eer

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Some of those “nuts” were GOP congressman weren’t they?
You are absolutely correct, ........ Wing Nuts, come in many different shapes, sizes, colors, forms, and ethnic & political backgrounds. Whether they reside in, or have recently left the ******** (been fired, resigned or term has expired), have a R or a D next to their titles, or sometimes are even known at times to make foolish ( yet sometimes entertaining) posts on web boards.
 

79eer

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I think it's a better possibility that either one of these two scenarios happen:

1. Trump is impeached & convicted, but refused to leave office and attempts a coup de tat.

2. Trump loses reelection in 2020, refused to leave office, and attempts a coup de tat.

:popcorn:
Remember when a President denied the interference of Russia in our election? And said he knew more than all of the Intelligence agencies? And never did anything about the interference?
2 examples of Wing Nuts, web board posters, at times entertaining. ( shape, size, race & ethnic background unknown )
 

jpoppa

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After hearing about the retirement of a left leaning S.C & watching the extreme left & the extreme right the last couple years & our elected officials who won't learn to bend a little or meet in the middle is it possible that they over power those of us who can work together & start a civil war or lots of violence & draw us independent folks in & make us choose a side ..
P.s.. I'm sure I didn't articulate this in a very good way .
Screw those cookie cutter extreme right and left sides......We independents and Libertarians need to keep sticking together in the middle and squash these two extreme sides for our children. Its not about a better future for those two sides, it is for more control and power
 

jpoppa

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I think it's a better possibility that either one of these two scenarios happen:

1. Trump is impeached & convicted, but refused to leave office and attempts a coup de tat.

2. Trump loses reelection in 2020, refused to leave office, and attempts a coup de tat.

:popcorn:
Those is not a banana republic anymore bub
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Screw those cookie cutter extreme right and left sides......We independents and Libertarians need to keep sticking together in the middle and squash these two extreme sides for our children. Its not about a better future for those two sides, it is for more control and power
What is the extreme nature on of the right wing’s positions right now? We aren’t going after the gays, we aren’t going after abortions, we aren’t attacking any progressive positions. We’re actually trying to get pathways to citizenship For the DACA folks, potential amnesty for the rest, and secure the border so this doesn’t happen again. So fascist!!! The rest is all financial related. The left has gone full batshit cray cray.
 

dave

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What is the extreme nature on of the right wing’s positions right now? We aren’t going after the gays, we aren’t going after abortions, we aren’t attacking any progressive positions. We’re actually trying to get pathways to citizenship For the DACA folks, potential amnesty for the rest, and secure the border so this doesn’t happen again. So fascist!!! The rest is all financial related. The left has gone full batshit cray cray.
There are some on the right that are batshit crazy. Not folks representing but I see a lot of folks who are conservative who still think tactical nikes were used to bring down the towers.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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There are some on the right that are batshit crazy. Not folks representing but I see a lot of folks who are conservative who still think tactical nikes were used to bring down the towers.
Those “loose change” and Fahrenheit 9/11 morons need smacked.
 

jpoppa

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What is the extreme nature on of the right wing’s positions right now? We aren’t going after the gays, we aren’t going after abortions, we aren’t attacking any progressive positions. We’re actually trying to get pathways to citizenship For the DACA folks, potential amnesty for the rest, and secure the border so this doesn’t happen again. So fascist!!! The rest is all financial related. The left has gone full batshit cray cray.
Def agree the left has gone full batshit cray hahaha.....I'm just not a big social issues or religious kind of guy and I think sometimes living here in WV that our Politicians stumble making advancements or generating more money because of being too far conservative. Drives me nuts that our Polticians here want to pick and choose our moralities for us. No to Pot legalization which that would bring in tons of revenue for teachers/fireman/cops/opioid epidemic/roads etc but yay for sports betting, just a different sin tax....Things like that rub me the wrong way and maybe I should not have called that extreme but just too far right for my comfort zone.....
 

dave

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Those “loose change” and Fahrenheit 9/11 morons need smacked.
I dont even bother trying to tell them differently. They are not horrible to read because they can offer lucid information but you have to take it all with a grain of salt. I do think our govt lies to us. I dont think that means that nothing is as it seems.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Def agree the left has gone full batshit cray hahaha.....I'm just not a big social issues or religious kind of guy and I think sometimes living here in WV that our Politicians stumble making advancements or generating more money because of being too far conservative. Drives me nuts that our Polticians here want to pick and choose our moralities for us. No to Pot legalization which that would bring in tons of revenue for teachers/fireman/cops/opioid epidemic/roads etc but yay for sports betting, just a different sin tax....Things like that rub me the wrong way and maybe I should not have called that extreme but just too far right for my comfort zone.....
Oh, I definitely agree with you.
 
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There are some on the right that are batshit crazy. Not folks representing but I see a lot of folks who are conservative who still think tactical nikes were used to bring down the towers.

Dave, I actually have people in my office that believe every conspiracy communicated through these far right channels.....I had a guy tell me about the notorious DC pizza shop before the whacko attacked it.
 

Boomboom521

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What is the extreme nature on of the right wing’s positions right now? We aren’t going after the gays, we aren’t going after abortions, we aren’t attacking any progressive positions. We’re actually trying to get pathways to citizenship For the DACA folks, potential amnesty for the rest, and secure the border so this doesn’t happen again. So fascist!!! The rest is all financial related. The left has gone full batshit cray cray.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...st-god-jews-north-carolina-house-999434?amp=1
 
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Pffffft, the actual President, your messiah, put the brakes on any kind of response, Defense or countermeasures. This President is actually doing stuff about it.

Obama actually developed a list of sanctions and kicked out diplomats. What has trump done? I'll patiently await your answer. While you're forming your response, here's something to read. And you say his foreign policy is good. LMAO!

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...-pushed-to-lift-russia-sanctions-958342211909
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Don't you fear that we are about to go so far right sooner than later? Just as I feared that we would go too far left
Not really. I’ve not seen anything that would lead me to believe that the GOP is going to challenge many social issues. They are focusing on the financial aspects of running the country for the most part. Now we can argue those often bleed over to social issues with respect to entitlement reform and the like but I don’t think the current crop of GOP house and Senate are eager to broach that.

I think the optics of how far left we went socially makes it seem like we’re gonna pivot right, but socially, it just seems to me like we planted an anchor when you actually look into it. That’s my perspective, if you’ve got some examples, let’s talk it out. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Obama actually developed a list of sanctions and kicked out diplomats. What has trump done? I'll patiently await your answer. While you're forming your response, here's something to read. And you say his foreign policy is good. LMAO!

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...-pushed-to-lift-russia-sanctions-958342211909
I guess you missed where the NSC saying that Rice told them to stand down and his follow up that Trump started doing stuff (without getting into specifics).
 

DvlDog4WVU

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And I’m well aware of these jags being the exception to the rule.....but I don’t know why the left gets all grouped together
Difference is that this is some random guy in a state election and the GOP responded appropriately. The DNC has prominent party national leaders acting batshit crazy on the regular.
 
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Not really. I’ve not seen anything that would lead me to believe that the GOP is going to challenge many social issues. They are focusing on the financial aspects of running the country for the most part. Now we can argue those often bleed over to social issues with respect to entitlement reform and the like but I don’t think the current crop of GOP house and Senate are eager to broach that.

I think the optics of how far left we went socially makes it seem like we’re gonna pivot right, but socially, it just seems to me like we planted an anchor when you actually look into it. That’s my perspective, if you’ve got some examples, let’s talk it out. I’d love to hear your thoughts.

I think there have been incidents that scare me from a social perspective. I will never understand the need to dehumanize the people coming to the border. The terms animals, rapists, infesting..... all used by Trump reflects the language common in our not so distant past to describe African Americans. I don't believe that we need open borders or unrestricted immigration but I also don't fear immigration or central Americans either. We already have ICE stopping citizens to see their IDs "just because" we want to round up the vermin.

The supreme court ruling on the wedding cake bothered me. Not so much from the fact that the baker refused the business but more from the fact that now we can use religion as a basis for discrimination. I know the decision was narrowly interpreted but I can assure you this will happen more now. Now what if I don't want to allow Muslims into my store? Women? That ruling will be used as a basis now for permitting discrimination. By the way I supported the Hobby Lobby ruling in that case.

I don't like the Neil Gorsuch-like types for SC justices. While I was critical of the left leaning court's propensity to establish law, I fear a severe right alignment of the court will destroy the social inroads we have made with a strict interpretation of the constitution by the SC. I clearly remember as a kid in Weirton watching adults jeer a black family that wanted to move into my neighborhood in the early 70's. No matter that he was the HS baskeball coach at the the Catholic school in town. My neighbors didn't want them. Strict interpretations could roll back protections for protected classes including older folks like me. Gorsuch has made some odd rulings in the past and if you combine him with new, similar minded justices, the SC could become problematic when it comes to enforcing existing statutes.

To a lesser degree I worry about roll-backs of environmental protections. I am not a tree hugger. I realize the balance between economic growth and protecting the environment. But I see no need to open up national lands and our shoreline for drilling now when we frankly don't need to do that. Just a single example but I don't want to relive my days in a highly polluted Northern Panhandle.