Just rans across an amazing fact, from last year, probably among the first COA-------

[jauk11]

standings to come out.

Here is the amazing facts, the top three COA in the nation:

1. Tennessee

SEC

$5,666

$629.55

2. Auburn

SEC

5,586

620.67

3. Louisville

ACC

5,202

578.00

Of course Bama immediately jumped from the 2,000s to close to Auburn, not a problem once Saban heard about it, and.our other nearby city college, Cincy, climbed to the top spot at one time.

Since it seems to almost be like a taboo subject on here, I won't discuss it a lot or dig up the current figures, I am sure that schools like Transfer U will take the high road and not discuss the disparity with any recruits. Meanwhile I hope none of our posters on here get too much sand in their eyes.

I just thought that it was interesting that three of the foremost institutes of chea-----uh, I mean higher learning, of course, would just happen to start out with the highest COA in the nation, and two of them very close to Lexington.

 

[theoledog]

The NCAA should have had a study to figure out the spread using its own measurement criteria and come up with a figure thats across the board... But they didn't and you can bet your a$$ schools are cooking the math for an advantage... The NCAA has become as corrupt as politics...

 

[MacCard]

Do you have a link to your data? Because this article tells a different story.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...nce-results-the-chase-to-pay-college-players/

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Do you have a link to your data? Because this article tells a different story.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...nce-results-the-chase-to-pay-college-players/

You upset he shortchanged Louisville 175 bucks?

 

[Comebakatz3]

I think the difference between Kentucky and Louisville is interesting. One thing to note... which recruits, if any, have chosen Louisville over Kentucky? Last year we were ranked 29th and they were ranked 36th. This year we are 40th and they areven 36th, but they are only higher because they have more recruits. So, it seems to me that it hasn't given Louisville much, if any, advantage over us. Could be a different story with other SEC teams, but that's harder to say because they already had advantages over us.

 

[MacCard]

You upset he shortchanged Louisville 175 bucks?

Yes, in a way. OP makes an unsourced claim that doesn't appear to match the data, assuming there isn't a differing survey out there. Just was wondering where he pulled his numbers.

 

[Orange_N_White]

I just thought that it was interesting that three of the foremost institutes of chea-----uh, I mean higher learning, of course, would just happen to start out with the highest COA in the nation, and two of them very close to Lexington.

Hmmmmmmm......

NCAA Major infractions by school


SEC
Auburn -7
aTm -7
Georgia-7
Kentucky -6
MSU- 6
Alabama-5
UF-5
Scar-5
Arkansas-4
Mizz-4
Tennessee-4
OM-3
LSU-3

 

[sluggercatfan]

standings to come out.

Here is the amazing facts, the top three COA in the nation:

1. Tennessee

SEC

$5,666

$629.55

2. Auburn

SEC

5,586

620.67

3. Louisville

ACC

5,202

578.00

Of course Bama immediately jumped from the 2,000s to close to Auburn, not a problem once Saban heard about it, and.our other nearby city college, Cincy, climbed to the top spot at one time.

Since it seems to almost be like a taboo subject on here, I won't discuss it a lot or dig up the current figures, I am sure that schools like Transfer U will take the high road and not discuss the disparity with any recruits. Meanwhile I hope none of our posters on here get too much sand in their eyes.

I just thought that it was interesting that three of the foremost institutes of chea-----uh, I mean higher learning, of course, would just happen to start out with the highest COA in the nation, and two of them very close to Lexington.

IF this is as big of a problem (and I don't like it either)as you say then please tell me if Saban and others can get this changed then why won't MB and MS do the same...ridiculous that it cost twice as much in Lou as Lexington(it dosen't)...must be all those high priced strip joints of which almost all are within waking distance of Otis campus.

 

[Anon1660081258]

You upset he shortchanged Louisville 175 bucks?

LMAO

 

[Poetax]

Hmmmmmmm......

NCAA Major infractions by school


SEC
Auburn -7
aTm -7
Georgia-7
Kentucky -6
MSU- 6
Alabama-5
UF-5
Scar-5
Arkansas-4
Mizz-4
Tennessee-4
OM-3
LSU-3

Yeah but if the police, the politicians and the college administration in Tennessee didn't cover up ever crime and cheat, you guys would probably be in double figures.

 

[jauk11]

Yes, in a way. OP makes an unsourced claim that doesn't appear to match the data, assuming there isn't a differing survey out there. Just was wondering where he pulled his numbers.

If you read the post it says it is from among the first COAs to come out, i just googled COA standings and this popped up, and the date on it was May 3, 2015 so over a year ago. I only used the first three because that was the point of the post and of course the rest has changed drastically since then since the NCAA left the door wide open to do what you want to-------pretty obvious what Saban wanted to do, and you have to wonder what in hell UK is thinking..

 

[MacCard]

If you read the post it says it is from among the first COAs to come out, i just googled COA standings and this popped up, and the date on it was May 3, 2015 so over a year ago. I only used the first three because that was the point of the post and of course the rest has changed drastically since then since the NCAA left the door wide open to do what you want to-------pretty obvious what Saban wanted to do, and you have to wonder what in hell UK is thinking..

Fine, but your heavy implication is that the schools you listed are manipulating the system to inflate COA for athletic purposes. Have any of those schools changed their COA figures since the NCAA began allowing athletes to receive them (Jan 2015)? I have a hard time believing those numbers could have been updated so quickly, so maybe those schools were just high to begin with (for whatever reason)?

Admittedly this is the first time I've ever even thought twice about COA, so I have no idea.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Hmmmmmmm......

NCAA Major infractions by school


SEC
Auburn -7
aTm -7
Georgia-7
Kentucky -6
MSU- 6
Alabama-5
UF-5
Scar-5
Arkansas-4
Mizz-4
Tennessee-4
OM-3
LSU-3

When were these infractions committed? The only school in the country who kept their coach with sexual coverups is guess who? Baylor didn't, Vandy didn't, but UT did. Who else has a position at the police department who calls and informs coaches of players forthcoming arrest?

 

[fabcat]

When were these infractions committed? The only school in the country who kept their coach with sexual coverups is guess who? Baylor didn't, Vandy didn't, but UT did. Who else has a position at the police department who calls and informs coaches of players forthcoming arrest?

Most schools have acedemic adviser , while UT have police advisers. At least they do earn their money. So it's money well spent

 

[Orange_N_White]

When were these infractions committed? The only school in the country who kept their coach with sexual coverups is guess who? Baylor didn't, Vandy didn't, but UT did. Who else has a position at the police department who calls and informs coaches of players forthcoming arrest?

Sorry facts bother you granny

 

[Orange_N_White]

Most schools have acedemic adviser , while UT have police advisers. At least they do earn their money. So it's money well spent

Nevertheless to op's point, which universities have the most major infractions? I believe he wrote "foremost institutes of chea---learning" to describe them didn't he?

 

[Orange_N_White]

Yeah but if the police, the politicians and the college administration in Tennessee didn't cover up ever crime and cheat, you guys would probably be in double figures.

Those are facts from NCAA not some tinfoil hat theory of corruption

Sorry

 

[Orange_N_White]

When were these infractions committed? The only school in the country who kept their coach with sexual coverups is guess who?

There was no coverup

All players were immediately suspended unlike Baylor

 

[ukalumni00]

A UT fan who thinks UT's football program is clean is like a Hilary voter who will defend her to the end about the email scandal.

 

[Orange_N_White]

Fine, but your heavy implication is that the schools you listed are manipulating the system to inflate COA for athletic purposes. Have any of those schools changed their COA figures since the NCAA began allowing athletes to receive them (Jan 2015)? I have a hard time believing those numbers could have been updated so quickly, so maybe those schools were just high to begin with (for whatever reason)?

Admittedly this is the first time I've ever even thought twice about COA, so I have no idea.

Despite the op's conspiracy theories and usual hatred, not at the University of Tennessee. They COA was established before there was even talk of payments

 

[Orange_N_White]

A UT fan who thinks UT's football program is clean is like a Hilary voter who will defend her to the end about the email scandal.

I didn't say we were clean. I said we have less major infraction (by 2) than UK and 3 than (uga). Draw your own conclusions

 

[Comebakatz3]

I didn't say we were clean. I said we have less major infraction (by 2) than UK and 3 than (uga). Draw your own conclusions

Tennessee has also been guilty of 2 major violations in the past decade. Kentucky has had zero.

 

[Orange_N_White]

Tennessee has also been guilty of 2 major violations in the past decade. Kentucky has had zero.

True

Much like you in the 90's we used that as motivation to clean sme things up

Kentucky still has more

 

[Comebakatz3]

True

Much like you in the 90's we used that as motivation to clean sme things up

Kentucky still has more

Yea, because the violations that happened over half a century ago are much more prevalent than the ones that happened less than a decade ago.

Claiming you've cleaned it up is also somewhat of a stretch considering that your school still hired Donnie Tyndall in 2014, despite knowing he was under NCAA investigation. Your school just got off of probation for the most recent offense two years ago. Also, the university has been investigated for improper handling of sexual assault allegations, especially those involving athletes. In the same vein, a story was released which alleged that your coach of has, at a minimum, an improper amount of access to the Knoxville Police Department during ongoing criminal investigations. I guess if you are cleaning it up and this is what is left then you must have been really dirty beforehand.

 

[skcatfan]

If the list you provided was a factual list of who really cheats then you would have a point. But everyone here knows the NCAA is corrupt as well as incompetent when it comes to enforcing and punishing schools that cheat. Duke and UNC basketball say hello!! You can also throw in Auburn with the Cam Newton situation also. There's a reason Tennessee is called Thug U. Players there get arrested for sexual assault and stay on the roster. At UK you don't even have to be guilty of it. Just an accusation of it is enough to end your career here.

 

[Comebakatz3]

Despite the op's conspiracy theories and usual hatred, not at the University of Tennessee. They COA was established before there was even talk of payments

However, I will agree with this. Tennessee had the same COA before there were payments made. It hasn't changed since the 13-14 year when it went up maybe 200 or 300 dollars. Nothing significant. Now, teams like Alabama making a change is extremely shady. However, there is not proof, to my knowledge, that UT did anything wrong with their COA numbers.

 

[Orange_N_White]

If the list you provided was a factual list of who really cheats then you would have a point. But everyone here knows the NCAA is corrupt as well as incompetent when it comes to enforcing and punishing schools that cheat. Duke and UNC basketball say hello!! You can also throw in Auburn with the Cam Newton situation also. There's a reason Tennessee is called Thug U. Players there get arrested for sexual assault and stay on the roster. At UK you don't even have to be guilty of it. Just an accusation of it is enough to end your career here.

NCAA conspiracy against uk and for Tennessee

Got it

 

[Orange_N_White]

Yea, because the violations that happened over half a century ago are much more prevalent than the ones that happened less than a decade ago.

Claiming you've cleaned it up is also somewhat of a stretch considering that your school still hired Donnie Tyndall in 2014, despite knowing he was under NCAA investigation. Your school just got off of probation for the most recent offense two years ago. Also, the university has been investigated for improper handling of sexual assault allegations, especially those involving athletes. In the same vein, a story was released which alleged that your coach of has, at a minimum, an improper amount of access to the Knoxville Police Department during ongoing criminal investigations. I guess if you are cleaning it up and this is what is left then you must have been really dirty beforehand.

You had some troubles in the 90's....no? So not really half century

The timeline could illustrate a pattern or culture....but I'm not saying that

Just countering the op's hate driven rhetoric as just that

 

[skcatfan]

NCAA conspiracy against uk and for Tennessee

Got it

The NCAA has nothing to do with allowing athletes that have been charged with criminal activities to remain on campus. That's up to the individual schools and the difference between UT and UK on dealing with athletes in these situations is night and day.
And the NCAA picks and chooses who they want to bring the hammer down on. That's not a conspiracy it's a fact. There are plenty of examples to prove it with UNC and Duke being the obvious choices.

 

[Orange_N_White]

The NCAA has nothing to do with allowing athletes that have been charged with criminal activities to remain on campus. That's up to the individual schools and the difference between UT and UK on dealing with athletes in these situations is night and day.
And the NCAA picks and chooses who they want to bring the hammer down on. That's not a conspiracy it's a fact. There are plenty of examples to prove it with UNC and Duke being the obvious choices.

All athletes involved were suspended from team immediately

They weren't kicked out of school because they are entitled to due process in the courts...but they were suspended from all team activities

Sorry to ruin your narrative

 

[CB3UK]

You had some troubles in the 90's....no? So not really half century

Thanks to Tennessee and your snitches, yes. The Albert Means saga got Alabama and Kentucky both in trouble. Yet another reason to despise Rocky Flop.

 

[Orange_N_White]

Thanks to Tennessee and your snitches, yes. The Albert Means saga got Alabama and Kentucky both in trouble. Yet another reason to despise Rocky Flop.

So you're not mad you were caught breaking the rules....you're mad you got caught

Got it

 

[Comebakatz3]

You had some troubles in the 90's....no? So not really half century

The timeline could illustrate a pattern or culture....but I'm not saying that

Just countering the op's hate driven rhetoric as just that

We had a violation in '87 and again in '88 in basketball. We had trouble with football in the late 90's and early 2000's with a penalty coming down in 2002. Two of our violations occurred over 50 years ago. One in 1951 was a point shaving scandal that affected numerous basketball programs and had ties to organized crime. The next in 1964 was a football infraction. Then we also had one in 1976.

So, I would think that two major violations in the past decade are a bigger black eye, and are more telling, than 5 violations that are all over 25 years old.

 

[skcatfan]

All athletes involved were suspended from team immediately

They weren't kicked out of school because they are entitled to due process in the courts...but they were suspended from all team activities

Sorry to ruin your narrative

How many games did any of those players miss? And due process my ***. The Knoxville PD has the football staff on speed dial but there's nothing suspicious about that at all lmao.

 

[Orange_N_White]

We had a violation in '87 and again in '88 in basketball. We had trouble with football in the late 90's and early 2000's with a penalty coming down in 2002. Two of our violations occurred over 50 years ago. One in 1951 was a point shaving scandal that affected numerous basketball programs and had ties to organized crime. The next in 1964 was a football infraction. Then we also had one in 1976.

So, I would think that two major violations in the past decade are a bigger black eye, and are more telling, than 5 violations that are all over 25 years old.

I could easily make the cas that 6 major infractions (7 for uga) demonstrates blatant disregard and a culture

 

[Orange_N_White]

How many games did any of those players miss? And due process my ***. The Knoxville PD has the football staff on speed dial but there's nothing suspicious about that at all lmao.

They didn't play once suspended so none

On your other point I'm dealing in facts not tinfoil conspiracy theories

 

[CB3UK]

So you're not mad you were caught breaking the rules....you're mad you got caught

Got it

So you're not mad that Fat Phil was an unscrupulous snitch who stabbed his predecessor in the back, or that the glut of rapes and robberies committed by UT football players are overwhelmingly swept under the rug, or that a Knoxville PD was forced to step down because he was giving investigation info to Butch and the boys first instead of calling their crimes in? You're just mad that we call Tennessee out on their backhanded ********.

Got it.

 

[skcatfan]

They didn't play once suspended so none

On your other point I'm dealing in facts not tinfoil conspiracy theories

You like to keep using the word conspiracy even though everything I've said is a proven fact.

 

[Orange_N_White]

So you're not mad that Fat Phil was an unscrupulous snitch who stabbed his predecessor in the back, or that the glut of rapes and robberies committed by UT football players are overwhelmingly swept under the rug, or that a Knoxville PD was forced to step down because he was giving investigation info to Butch and the boys first instead of calling their crimes in? You're just mad that we call Tennessee out on their backhanded ********.

Got it.

Nice try.

You don't like us. I get that

 

[Orange_N_White]

You like to keep using the word conspiracy even though everything I've said is a proven fact.

Fact

Lol

Cool