"JUSTIN" goes to WVU vs VTech game with COVID

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

 
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What this kid did is stupid whether it was a lie or not. Someone will probably kick his *** at some point. The good news is that despite the 70,000 fans that day, and the 50,000 the week before against LIU, covid numbers in WV continue to drop. I truly hope that continues.
 

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

Just curious, how do you know this?
 

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

Pu$$y. Stay hydrated, get plenty of rest, and treat the symptoms....you'll be fine.
 

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It is a blood clot creator. Very deadly to those with underlying health weaknesses. Highly contagious. Expensive to treat and is thinning medical staff that are tired of being on the front lines. If you don’t believe me, check out the hospital’s hiring needs.
 

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It is a blood clot creator. Very deadly to those with underlying health weaknesses. Highly contagious. Expensive to treat and is thinning medical staff that are tired of being on the front lines. If you don’t believe me, check out the hospital’s hiring needs.
I hope you are joking. The hospitals in WV are not hiring like you think they would. They can post all they want and cry that they are short staffed, but it’s simply not true.
 
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Pu$$y. Stay hydrated, get plenty of rest, and treat the symptoms....you'll be fine.
Thats just a partisan & completely ignorant statement.

I personally know someone who died from COVID, he wasnt old either. My Dad got it and 6 months later is still dealing with multiple side effects from it. MY X-wife is a PA, and works in the hospital and sees its effects everyday. People in their 30s & 40s that are healthy are having serious problems, specifically blood clots, circulation, & lung issues, which are extremely serious.

You're the 1970s football coach who calls players a pu$$y for drinking water... Stop listening to a single news outlet bro, diversify your information sources and know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself with pure ignorance.

Truth is non-partisan, the virus is very real, its side effects are very real and just dont negatively impact the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions. My brother is extremely healthy, 42 yrs old, works out 5 times a week, and eats a very healthy diet, and it completely kicked his ***. He needed to get the Antibody treatment, and was still down and out for 2 weeks.

It effects us all differently, and you dont know, until you get it. My point in this thread, just because some people wont be as effected by it as others, does not mean you intentionally spread it. That could very well be a death sentence to someone, or perhaps they have to geta limb amputated due to blood clots, maybe the person at the game unknowingly gives it to his grand parents. Go talk to a nurse, PA, or Doc that actually works at a hospital...

While I avidly dont agree with draconian policies, I also believe people should be courteous, respectful, & mindful of others, thats not being a *****, that what people do in a civilized society, its called humanity...
 

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

Would hate to be a Jewish neighbor near you during the Holocaust. I’m sure you would report me to the Gestapo.
 

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

Sir:
While I generally agree with our doing sll possible to ensure we retsin those freedoms we have believed to be a right for domicile within this Country, I also find myself torn when certain specifics are brought forth. During my lifetime (and that of my parents) several devastating illnesses have been greatly diminished, if not nearly eradicated, because of a massive effort and, in several cases, mandatory insistence on vaccination. I remember vividly the long term, if not permanent, effects of polio infection and the requirements for receiving precautionary treatment. Nearly all of those over age 50 or so got DPT shots prior to beginning school. This was for good reason and cases of those diseases fell to very low levels. The administration of these, and numerous other preventive treatments, have been mandatory and accepted, not as loss of freedom, but for the reduction/prevention of wide spread illness known to have serious, if not catastrophic, public health consequences. Seems to me that COVID-19 fits the description employed for these other diseases.
I often wonder if this pandemic were to have occurred in an earlier era and/or during ghe Presidency of a more universally appreciated and respected individual if the degree of rejection we have seen would have existed. I find many of the, so-called, “scientific”/medical arguments against this vaccination to be truly “science based” and quite frequently laced with a shopping amount of pseufo-science. Thus, even while bring in overwhelming agreement that our liberties/ freedoms have been and are being rapidly eroded by politicians and, sadly, a growing number of citizens who have agendas regarding the future of this Country which vastly differ from those I hold, I believe that Covid-19 meets the underlying public health criteria for mandatory intervention.
 
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I hope you are joking. The hospitals in WV are not hiring like you think they would. They can post all they want and cry that they are short staffed, but it’s simply not true.
Hospitals in WV are not hiring because they dont have the money. Unlike in other states, WV has an extremely high % of Medicaid & Medicare patients. The govnt does not pay very much for services rendered for these patients.

WV is the HIghest in the country for % of Medicaid & Medicare per capita...

This is why hospitals cant hire, and actually laid off service providers a couple years ago. Post 2012, you saw a massive shift in the economic landscape in WV, when all the coal mines shut down. People who worked for a living and did not rely on the govnt, relocated elsewhere for work. This had a dramatic effect on Hospital revenues..

When hospitals are laying off employees, that is a serious indicator of a very unhealthy economy. If we want to solve that problem, WV needs to serious change of Tax, Regulation, & Business policies in order to compete on a national level. I was a strong supporter of Justice's plan to eliminate the income tax, that would be a good starting point..

I mean, if you owned a business, why would you start it or bring it to WV? What does WV offer to help your business grow, succeed, increase profitability, or hire easily?? The truth is WV is not competitive in many of the primary factors business owners weigh when deciding where to locate. In order to offset, drastic change is needed to attract them and mitigate our negatives.

Any rate, hospitals laying off was a sad day for WV, pathetic really....
 

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Thats just a partisan & completely ignorant statement.

I personally know someone who died from COVID, he wasnt old either. My Dad got it and 6 months later is still dealing with multiple side effects from it. MY X-wife is a PA, and works in the hospital and sees its effects everyday. People in their 30s & 40s that are healthy are having serious problems, specifically blood clots, circulation, & lung issues, which are extremely serious.

You're the 1970s football coach who calls players a pu$$y for drinking water... Stop listening to a single news outlet bro, diversify your information sources and know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself with pure ignorance.

Truth is non-partisan, the virus is very real, its side effects are very real and just dont negatively impact the elderly or those with pre-existing conditions. My brother is extremely healthy, 42 yrs old, works out 5 times a week, and eats a very healthy diet, and it completely kicked his ***. He needed to get the Antibody treatment, and was still down and out for 2 weeks.

It effects us all differently, and you dont know, until you get it. My point in this thread, just because some people wont be as effected by it as others, does not mean you intentionally spread it. That could very well be a death sentence to someone, or perhaps they have to geta limb amputated due to blood clots, maybe the person at the game unknowingly gives it to his grand parents. Go talk to a nurse, PA, or Doc that actually works at a hospital...

While I avidly dont agree with draconian policies, I also believe people should be courteous, respectful, & mindful of others, thats not being a *****, that what people do in a civilized society, its called humanity...
You are so misinformed. Stop watching the news, it is ruining you. And before you say it, NO....I'm not a "Trumper". I'm a hardcore liberal Democrat. If you don't believe me, ask Skyhawk.
 
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I believe that Covid-19 meets the underlying public health criteria for mandatory intervention.
Thanks Eerdoc for a well thought out post!

"my body my choice" has often been the phrase we have heard the left say for many years now with regard to abortion.

This is the first time we have had an issue with a virus such as this, its the first MRNA vaccination, which is very quickly losing its effectiveness. The way I view it, is itll be like the yearly flu. Where the flu evolves, and the pharm companies release a new flu shot annually to combat the most modern or predicted strains of it.

So we'll require an annual vaccine.

I understand and agree with the function of vaccines. Im vaxxed myself, where I disagree is placing mandatory vaccines with something that is as unproven as this one, and forcing people to quit their jobs because of it.

That said, once its better studied, and refined, I would semi support a mandatory vaccine, similar to that of the polio shots, if its just a 1 shot, or if the virus evolves into something worse then it is now.

There was a far more effective vaccine that also used T-cells, but the govnt did not fund its development. It was showing to last much longer, and btw to have a positive side effect of also fighting cancer cells in the body. Hopefully in time, that is the vaccine they choose to make mandatory, tho if its not a massice Pharma company, I doubt it.

Where I adamantly disagree is vaccine passports.

We should not be required to show documentation to engage with society. Govnt will NEVER relinquish that power, as they have shown they will leverage every emergency possible to increase their power. Lobbyist are already lobbying hard for vaccine passports, because Corps want access to user data. They want to attach additional functionality to the vaccine passports, like banking & transaction functionality, insurance, geo tracking, etc. All possible now via IOT(Internet of Things), which frankly is a scary technology from a privacy perspective.

Before I engage in forming a perspective with regard to Govnt laws & policies, I think.... "If Hitler type had this ability, power, functionality, or control, how more effective would he have been, how could it be used, weaponized, etc"

Vaccine passports are a very dangerous path, that would absolutely nurture tyrannical foundations. Im not an overly religious man, but Im sure I read somewhere in Revelations that people could not buy/sell/barter unless that accepted something.... It sounds very familiar..

Vaccine passports is nothing more then another overreach, and the virus is just the title of a book of downfall. Death always comes in the name of peace, convenience, safety, and under the guise of public interests.

I dont trust my govnt, because humans are flawed, and its certainly corrupt at every level. NO Govnt since the dawn of time has yet to defeat the seduction of power, and no human is vaccinated from the persuasion of Greed, Ego, & influence.

Vaccine the willing, study, research, improve, refine, but its a HARD NO to vaccine passports... Also, develop treatment options for those who do not want the vaccine. Like the Antibody treatment, which is very effective. Continue in the Antibody treatment develop & updating with most modern strains of COVID.

This way, both peoples have choices, options, & treatments and the choice is left to the individual, as it should be with a virus of this type. If it was Ebola, or something with a higher mortality rate, I would certainly agree with vaccine mandates, While this virus is certainly serious for many people, IM not sure if it meets the standard in the removal of individual choice, and how that choice can eliminate ones ability to engage with society.

Back in the days of Polio, if people did not get a vaccine, they could still work, buy groceries, eat at restaurants, etc... That would not be the case in todays world, particularly with required vaccine passports.
 
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You are so misinformed. Stop watching the news, it is ruining you. And before you say it, NO....I'm not a "Trumper". I'm a hardcore liberal Democrat. If you don't believe me, ask Skyhawk.
I dont watch the news. My opinions are formed from talking to those who work at Hospitals, or who had COVID at some point.

Partisanship goes both ways...

There is no excuse for your earlier comment, utterly irresponsible & ignorant
 
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Would hate to be a Jewish neighbor near you during the Holocaust. I’m sure you would report me to the Gestapo.
Haha, Nazi, Bigot, Fascist, Racists, Sexists, Xenophobe, all these terms both sides use in their goal of divisiveness.

Thats a ridiculous thought, and proves tribalism is peaking.

Im hated by both sides because I could give a **** about an R or D on a voter card, I think for myself apart from any dependency of partisanship.

I would turn you in to the authorities, no matter what your race or religious beliefs were, if you knowingly & deliberately endangered peoples lives, as that kid did. Its no different then driving drunk...
 
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We have all made certain sacrifices the past 1.5 years to be responsible people within our community. Some more then others. NO one has the right to take peoples individual liberties away. On the same hand, no one has the right to knowingly endanger peoples lives.

The application of truth, of what aligns with our values, is not on the left..... its not on the right... As all things which last throught time and nature maintains variations of balance.

Its like sending COVID positive patients to a nursing home.... If someone did that, shouldnt they be held accountable? Yes they should.

If you drive drunk, and hit someone, shouldnt you be held accountable?

If you have AIDS and sleep with someone without protection......


Accountability is a cornerstone of any civil society..
 

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I dont watch the news. My opinions are formed from talking to those who work at Hospitals, or who had COVID at some point.

Partisanship goes both ways...

There is no excuse for your earlier comment, utterly irresponsible & ignorant
So there's no excuse for my FREEDOM OF SPEECH and FREEDOM OF THOUGHT? Ok, got it you liberty loving fool you!

EDIT: AIDS/HIV is pretty much a death sentence and will be with you for the rest of your life. COVID-19 has a 98% survival rate and IF you get it, and defeat it, you are naturally immune. BIG difference there, bub.
 
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So there's no excuse for my FREEDOM OF SPEECH and FREEDOM OF THOUGHT? Ok, got it you liberty loving fool you!

EDIT: AIDS/HIV is pretty much a death sentence and will be with you for the rest of your life. COVID-19 has a 98% survival rate and IF you get it, and defeat it, you are naturally immune. BIG difference there, bub.
YOu can say what you want, but to have that opinion goes against the values of why+how this Country is great. Our sense of responsibility, accountability, respect, service to others, community, etc. Individual liberties stop when it negatively impacts someones health. Which is why I dont support Abortion either... Because their individual liberties impacts another human life.

Drunk driving is illegal. What is the % of wrecks or fatalities from every person who has ever drove drunk, I would say that % is pretty low too, but its still endangering peoples lives & health.

AIDS/HIV is not a death sentence. NOt any more, there are treatments for HIV that wipe the viral load from the body, so much so that in many cases its undetectable. But, its still illegal, because you are endangering someones life & health.

How are you seriously trying to justify what that kid did? If you think thats ok, and should be accepted, you are no better then all else that unravels the moral foundation of this country. After complete shutdowns, lost jobs, homes repossessed, lost businesses, lost livelyhoods, suicides, etc... All for this virus, which you are correct does have a high survival rate, its not Ebola by no means, but for every 100 people at that game 2 people could potentially die from his negligent actions. Thats 1200 humans with friends, family, kids of their own.. Maybe a college student gets it, low risk agreed, but perhaps they give it to their parents or grandparents.

Balance....... Balance & fairmindedness goes a long way bro..
 
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YOu can say what you want, but to have that opinion goes against the values of why+how this Country is great. Our sense of responsibility, accountability, respect, service to others, community, etc. Individual liberties stop when it negatively impacts someones health. Which is why I dont support Abortion either... Because their individual liberties impacts another human life.

Drunk driving is illegal. What is the % of wrecks or fatalities from every person who has ever drove drunk, I would say that % is pretty low too, but its still endangering peoples lives & health.

AIDS/HIV is not a death sentence. NOt any more, there are treatments for HIV that wipe the viral load from the body, so much so that in many cases its undetectable. But, its still illegal, because you are endangering someones life & health.

How are you seriously trying to justify what that kid did? If you think thats ok, and should be accepted, you are no better then all else that unravels the moral foundation of this country. After complete shutdowns, lost jobs, homes repossessed, lost businesses, lost livelyhoods, suicides, etc... All for this virus, which you are correct does have a high survival rate, its not Ebola by no means, but for every 100 people at that game 2 people could potentially die from his negligent actions. Thats 1200 humans with friends, family, kids of their own.. Maybe a college student gets it, low risk agreed, but perhaps they give it to their parents or grandparents.

Balance....... Balance & fairmindedness goes a long way bro..
I'm not justifying anything that "kid" did. I didn't even watch the video. That's what separates me from you. I don't get caught up in one incident and suddenly go on a crusade for/against it. I stand on my beliefs of personal freedom. You know, like what liberals ONCE believed in. If this "virus" had the death rate of smallpox or AIDS or anything else, then I'd probably support the mandates. The fact is that 98% survive without any assistance of the "vaccine".
 

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This guy "Justin" went to the WVU vs VT game, knowing he had COVID. If you went to the game and contracted COVID afterwards, contact the WV State Police. If anyone knows this *******, do the right thing and contact your local police department.

What he did is no different then sleeping with someone knowing you have AIDS and not informing them or using protection. This is absolutely criminal negligence and will be held both criminally & civilly responsible for anyone who contracted COVID from the game.

You didnt have to sit near him, if you used the same bathroom, went tothe same concession stand, basically if you touched any of his fomites, which is a viral shedding trail of his making...

You will be entitled to receive damages from this *******, and I would highly suggest you pursuit it.

I avidly DO NOT support vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, draconian or tyrannical policies of any nature, nor are there any justification you can use for them that strip individual liberties, BUT....... What this irresponsible ******* did is knowingly endanger peoples lives with careless abandon, and that is certainly not to be accepted in a civil society.

We need to do everything we can to protect people and reduce the spread of this virus, we also need to equally protect individual freedoms & liberties. Its people like this that make you sick to your stomach, considering the sacrifices we have all made the past 1.5 years to do our part to be responsible citizen. People like this need to be dealt with in the most aggressive manner possible. Public floggings would be ideal, but Ill settle for prison & damages payments to any victims...

Please spread this link around Social Media, WV is a small state, Im sure we can work together to turn him in to the authorities. Im hoping, for humanity sake he was joking and this is just a kid being stupid, but if not, we need to send a serious message these reckless behaviors will be dealt with swiftly.

Are you vaccinated? Have you had COVID and recovered from it? If you answered yes to either of those questions then STFU. For you COVID is over and what anyone else does is none of your business. You can't get it you can't transmit it. You will not get it again, in spite of the hysteria in the news. COVID does not belong to that family of virus that re-infects. For you COVID is over, shut up and go on with your life. You are just another Jesus hanging on a cross trying to run the lives of others. It is none of your business.
 

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Are you vaccinated? Have you had COVID and recovered from it? If you answered yes to either of those questions then STFU. For you COVID is over and what anyone else does is none of your business. You can't get it you can't transmit it. You will not get it again, in spite of the hysteria in the news. COVID does not belong to that family of virus that re-infects. For you COVID is over, shut up and go on with your life. You are just another Jesus hanging on a cross trying to run the lives of others. It is none of your business.
Can you get the flu more than twice? Do you know what a variant is?
 

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Haha, Nazi, Bigot, Fascist, Racists, Sexists, Xenophobe, all these terms both sides use in their goal of divisiveness.

Thats a ridiculous thought, and proves tribalism is peaking.

Im hated by both sides because I could give a **** about an R or D on a voter card, I think for myself apart from any dependency of partisanship.

I would turn you in to the authorities, no matter what your race or religious beliefs were, if you knowingly & deliberately endangered peoples lives, as that kid did. Its no different then driving drunk...
Skyhawkball claims to be a med student. I really doubt it with the ignorance that he displays on here. If he is he should hope nobody discovers his identity. He could be in some serious hot water if some of his statements were known publicly.
 

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Pu$$y. Stay hydrated, get plenty of rest, and treat the symptoms....you'll be fine.
A truly myopic, ignorant statement. While these are valued things. To do generally to maintain efficiency they fall short when dealing with infectious agents. You are quite vague (possibly intentionally) as concerns ‘treatment’. Germs require agents that nullify their ability to alter normal metabolic activity. Rest and hydration are ancillary agents to those that are specific for the task of destroying the infectious agent. Some may survive using your simplified approach—many others will not.
Would hate to be a Jewish neighbor near you during the Holocaust. I’m sure you would report me to the Gestapo.
Quite the one to exaggerate I see.
 

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"Justin" posted it on his Tiktok account... Watch the video in the link.
Tiktok, eh? Well, now we know it's absolutely true, don't we? And there were probably thousands of people there who have it or had it, they just weren't aware of it, like the vast majority of "cases."
 

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"Individual liberties stop when it negatively impacts someones health."

Looking for that provision in the Constitution . . .still looking. . .
 
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Are you vaccinated? Have you had COVID and recovered from it? If you answered yes to either of those questions then STFU. For you COVID is over and what anyone else does is none of your business. You can't get it you can't transmit it. You will not get it again, in spite of the hysteria in the news. COVID does not belong to that family of virus that re-infects. For you COVID is over, shut up and go on with your life. You are just another Jesus hanging on a cross trying to run the lives of others. It is none of your business.
Vaccination is not being effective. In Massachusetts 60% or 70%(Cant recall which) of hospitalizations are those who are vaccinated. In fact overall, a healthy % of hospitalizations are people who are vaccinated.

You know nothing about viruses, or this one if you think you cant get it twice. MY X has treated several patience who have been hospitalized on two separate occasions 4 - 9 months apart. This is very well documented and a quick search will pull up many various sources & articles that discuss how one can get infected with different strains of COVID. Viruses evolve, like ya know, the flu, which is why you get a yearly flu shot. Because you can get the flu more then once, because its a different strain, just like with COVID.

IT IS MY BUSINESS, ITS OUR BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT EFFECTED & EFFECTS OUR BUSINESSES & OUR LIVES. If the Govnt didnt shut down the economy, shut down our lives, ruin them in some cases, Politicians & Lobbyist calling for vaccine mandates & vaccine passports which I vehemently do not support, stripping us of our individual liberties and generally speaking negatively effecting peoples lives... People like that ******* need dealt with swiftly. Say that to people who lost their business due to COVID shutdowns, Say that to people who lost family members to suicide, or lost their jobs, or people who lost family members to COVID...

Its no different then calling 911 when you see a drunk driver on the road.. Being accountable & respectful to others, or turning someone in who is actively & knowingly endangering lives is the right thing to do. The fact anyone would stick up for that kid is disheartening.
 

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A truly myopic, ignorant statement. While these are valued things. To do generally to maintain efficiency they fall short when dealing with infectious agents. You are quite vague (possibly intentionally) as concerns ‘treatment’. Germs require agents that nullify their ability to alter normal metabolic activity. Rest and hydration are ancillary agents to those that are specific for the task of destroying the infectious agent. Some may survive using your simplified approach—many others will not.

Quite the one to exaggerate I see.
Well, perhaps those that are worried should take precautions recommended and leave the rest of us that feel like if it happens then 1) we will be fine or 2) whatever happens happens; alone. If you are truly scared of catching it from unvaccinated, then wear a mask, two masks, hell wear 5 masks! They work, right?
 
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"Individual liberties stop when it negatively impacts someones health."

Looking for that provision in the Constitution . . .still looking. . .
Its called LAWS.... Ya know, criminal negligence, manslaughter, etc... Govnt doesnt allows you to drive drunk. Govnt doesnt allow you to knowingly infect people... Govnt dont allow you to steal, rape, murder....

Free Will has limitations in a civil society.
 

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Vaccination is not being effective. In Massachusetts 60% or 70%(Cant recall which) of hospitalizations are those who are vaccinated. In fact overall, a healthy % of hospitalizations are people who are vaccinated.

You know nothing about viruses, or this one if you think you cant get it twice. MY X has treated several patience who have been hospitalized on two separate occasions 4 - 9 months apart. This is very well documented and a quick search will pull up many various sources & articles that discuss how one can get infected with different strains of COVID. Viruses evolve, like ya know, the flu, which is why you get a yearly flu shot. Because you can get the flu more then once, because its a different strain, just like with COVID.

IT IS MY BUSINESS, ITS OUR BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT EFFECTED & EFFECTS OUR BUSINESSES & OUR LIVES. If the Govnt didnt shut down the economy, shut down our lives, ruin them in some cases, Politicians & Lobbyist calling for vaccine mandates & vaccine passports which I vehemently do not support, stripping us of our individual liberties and generally speaking negatively effecting peoples lives... People like that ******* need dealt with swiftly. Say that to people who lost their business due to COVID shutdowns, Say that to people who lost family members to suicide, or lost their jobs, or people who lost family members to COVID...

Its no different then calling 911 when you see a drunk driver on the road.. Being accountable & respectful to others, or turning someone in who is actively & knowingly endangering lives is the right thing to do. The fact anyone would stick up for that kid is disheartening.
So then, your stance is simply this person went to a game and claimed they had COVID and knew it. Do you ever question who prepares your food that you eat? Whether that person washed their hands? Whether they have HIV or Hepatitis? Whether they spit in your food before processing it?

Get over it. It's life. And guess what's part of life? DEATH. It happens daily, hourly, every second. People got sick and died prior to Covid, including healthy people. I'm not being insensitive, I'm being a realist who understands the risk of living a full LIFE.......with constant threats that could end my life at any moment.
 
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Well, perhaps those that are worried should take precautions recommended and leave the rest of us that feel like if it happens then 1) we will be fine or 2) whatever happens happens; alone. If you are truly scared of catching it from unvaccinated, then wear a mask, two masks, hell wear 5 masks! They work, right?
So I guess drunk drivers should not be arrested or pursued, as long as the victim wore a seatbelt? Cause thats essentially what you are saying.

Criminal Negligence is a law of applicable generality, because there is a diversity of scenarios.

Your example: IF someone preparing my food knowingly tried to spread Hep or HIV, that is fkn illegal. A simple google search, or your search engine of choice. You are proving my point.

Laws exist to mitigate bad, unethical, or endangering behaviors. To protect us from those who only care about themselves and doing what they want to do regardless of how it effects other innocent people.

Maybe that kid was seated in the student section, but maybe one of those students went home after the game after touching something and spread the virus at their parents house. When the parents were safe, they were careful, they made all the right decisions that best aligned with their perspectives.

Its not about living in fear and not living life. Its about being able to do those things period, without govnt dictation, control, or someone elses decision putting our lives or family members lives at unnecessary risk. We all drive, we all accept the risk, every time we get in a car, and there are laws that help entice acceptable behavior and protect innocent people. Speed limits, seatbelts, DUI, etc etc..

Free Will & Individual Liberties has limitations. The U.S. law is very clear about that when it comes to negatively impacting other peoples health.
 
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So I guess drunk drivers should not be arrested or pursued, as long as the victim wore a seatbelt? Cause thats essentially what you are saying.

Criminal Negligence is a law of applicable generality, because there is a diversity of scenarios.

Your example: IF someone preparing my food knowing tried to spread Hep or HIV, that is fkn illegal. A simple google search, or your search engine of choice. You are proving my point.
Wow. You do realize that if you get the "virus", you stand a better chance surviving it than you do of not getting it if vaccinated?
 

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Its called LAWS.... Ya know, criminal negligence, manslaughter, etc... Govnt doesnt allows you to drive drunk. Govnt doesnt allow you to knowingly infect people... Govnt dont allow you to steal, rape, murder....

Free Will has limitations in a civil society.
You seem to want "Govnt" to rule every part of your life, including when you get a virus. Most sane people don't.
 
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Wow. You do realize that if you get the "virus", you stand a better chance surviving it than you do of not getting it if vaccinated?
Vaccination is an individual choice that should be kept an individual choice, until the vaccine is thoroughly researched, refined, or the virus evolves into something with a higher mortality rate(like Ebola or something). LIke EerDoc said, people use to get vaccines for Polio, Measles, Smallpox, etc... Which statistically are more serious then COVID, so I dont agree COVID passes the line in the sand when you impose vaccines. I will say, even if that time comes, I will never agree with vaccine passports. Nobody has the right to remove your ability to engage with society.

We can discuss what is a reasonable line in the sand.... 10% Mortality, 20%, 5%?? Im not sure, as I place a value on both individual liberty & reasonable laws to protect its citizens.

This isnt about someone being vaccinated or not. Because you can still get the virus and spread the virus being fully vaccinated. There are many conflicting articles about whether or not the vaccine increases risks. There could be elderly have a higher vaccination rate, so its falsely skewing the data, IDK, I havent dove into that aspect of it much.

This thread is about someone knowing they have COVID, and going to a very crowded & close proximity public event and intentionally spreading it and putting peoples health at risk. Which is no different then driving while intoxicated.
 
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You seem to want "Govnt" to rule every part of your life, including when you get a virus. Most sane people don't.
Most sane people would not have the desire to intentionally spread a virus that could potentially take a human life. The fact you are even defending this kids actions is gross.

People should be free to live their life how they choose to live it, and do what they want to do, when they want to do it, without govnt control or monitoring.

People should NOT be free to intentionally endanger peoples lives and puts their current & future health at risk.

This entire year has been one large justification as to why partisanship was one of our founding fathers biggest concerns & fears for the future of this country. People will set truth or the right thing aside if it conflicts with their tribality.
 

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To re-center this talk.
1) This kid is an irresponsible idiot. Knowingly going to a public (and very crowded) public event while contagious is beyond ignorant. That was also true pre-COVID
2) This isn't AIDS. It's not even close. COVID 19 at its worst is literally nothing compared to AIDS. Read up on AIDS and get back to me.
3) The fact that we make analogies like this IS the problem. The uninformed get pumped full of garbage rhetoric like this and then spew it as fact. It is how the media and this government works.

4) eerdoc wondered what this would have looked like under different circumstances. Well, I guarantee you if this happened now, there would have been less fear mongering. We could have closed our borders without the left shitting a brick and alternate treatments would have been given a true trail to see if they can help.

The Democrats and the MSM took a medical emergency and turned it into a political platform, and we all suffered for it. Why? Some orange guy made mean tweets.