"JUSTIN" goes to WVU vs VTech game with COVID
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You mean people never died of diseases or viruses prior to 2020? Did you stop the world for deaths prior to Covid?
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Its one of the reasons we have laws prohibiting smoking in public places. Prior to the mid 80's you could come home from the office smelling like an ash try. Prior to Madd in the 80's very few laws against drunk driving and the ones that did exist lacked teeth. Probably one of the reasons most states have laws prohibiting fire arms in bars. These laws aren't on the books to prevent civil liberties they are there for public safety.
Why you ask, the Dems wanted mail in ballots & drop boxes. And yes, there were mean tweets.
If you want to make that comparison, at least give it a little better effort. The example would be better used by saying that banning smoking altogether to protect everyone. That would be equivalent to requiring vaccines.
Then your opinions are shaped by those with an axe to grind. Healthy individuals without obesity and this includes the "just an extra 20 pounds" crowd have very little risk. And in medical terms having bad flu symptoms that make you feel like hammered crap for a week but doesn't kill you or cause significant disability is not a public health concern. The fact is that if you are under 50 and healthy, COVID infection still poses less of a risk, by percentage of infected, than the flu. Anecdotes be damned, the data is the data. Now the fact that COVID is much more likely to infect you and thus the case numbers of COVID being higher than the flu will make the overall numbers higher of permanently disabled or dead higher than the flu doesn't change percentage risk.
That's the problem with the politicization of this disease. And it included Democrats saying they would be wary of the very ******* vaccine they are currently pushing if it were "developed under Trump" ... which it was. They'd still be saying it if Trump won just as they were touting how unsafe and suppressed the vote was before the election to preserve a talking point if Biden lost. Suddenly a complete reversal on both counts because one side won.
In any event, you are more likely to be permanently disabled or killed by a motor vehicle accident any day you drive than you are from COVID. The reason that you are not aware of that is that the media is not constantly throwing it in your face. It's the same reason that you were not aware of all the young healthy people with myocarditis, transverse myelitis, Guillian-Barre syndrome, and various other morbidity along with mortality associated with the flu in years past. It's because it's a known quantity and not likely to stir the pot like this new disease.
We live in a very sheltered time and COVID increases our risk of death to a likelihood less than the risk of death from daily life 40-50 years ago. The willingness we have to just cede our liberties to a bunch of authoritarian bureaucrats because we are so afraid to live, due to a risk that is miniscule compared to what just about every generation before us faced, is ******* embarrassing.
Ultimately, COVID is not nothing. It's not just a cold. It is exceptionally dangerous to the older, particularly those above age 65, and the co-morbid, especially the obese. While it's likelihood of death is less than flu, it's also novel and much more infectious. This means more cases and thus more unlucky people having the unfortunate outcome of death. Thus the vaccine is more likely to be beneficial than detrimental to even the healthy. All that said, it is still not the albatross of risk it's been made out to be and subsequently used to grab power by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats. Heart disease, cancer, and car accidents are still far more likely to kill the average American, including the very young and healthy, than in the event of a GUARANTEED COVID infection. It's certainly not worth abandoning the concept of individual liberty the entire country is founded upon.
Humanity includes ALL people, not just the young & perfectly healthy + fit. Our Laws are for everyone, not just for specific religions, races, body sizes, or age groups. We kinda take the whole "All men are created equally" seriously, its what makes this so great, along with individual liberties.
Im not sure why you think a conversation with my X wife about what shes treating in the hospital with regard to COVID is her having an axe to grind. She loves her job, she was expressing concern about it, because the delta variant is worse then some media outlets are discussing. Compared to the original variant, shes seeing a far higher % of younger people, and a higher % of serious symptoms.
I concur with it being politicized, by both sides, I also agree it doesnt rise to the level that justifies the reduction of individual liberties and/or the expansion of govnt power+control.
The entire point of this thread was not about individual liberties, vaccines, partisanship, etc.... It was a kid knowingly endangering peoples health & lives by going to a very crowded & close proximity public event and intentionally spreading COVID. If its wasnt a stupid joke.... Which who knows at this point. Either way, very idiotic. After all the BS the govnt has done the past year, and everything they are trying to do, its actions like this that works against those who are trying to source reason, fairness, & balance. Recklessness & Negligence like that will only further an outcome we both do not want nor support.
While the virus effects us all differently, any justification of his action because perfectly healthy people are at lower risk, is not how we form laws or policies in this country.
Like I said, I know someone who died from Covid, 52 yrs old, not overweight, but was born with Asthma, otherwise he was healthy & active. My X is treating a very high % of people in their 30s & 40s that are heaving serious problems with blood clots, circulation, & lung issues, some had limbs amputated because of it, now at high risk of brain bleeds / stroke, etc... Most of the younger adults are mothers..
I dont agree with any policies that reduce individual liberties or have the control over our ability to engage with society. I also dont agree with someone knowingly endangering people.
Lets say just 2% are at increased risk of serious life altering symptoms. Thats 1200 people at that game, not to mention the people who they come into contact with...
We all want to continue to live our life the way we did pre-covid, we need a little balance, fairmindedness, & accountability to stay the course. Those moral structures are non-partisan, the character foundation does not belong to any political party, no matter how much self righteousness they broadcast. I do agree the left have shifted so far left and are pushing radical policies & agendas that just 6 years ago would have been considered a political death sentence. I know a lot of people who grew up Dems, but now feel more aligned with Ind or Rep, because they have moved so far & so fast left. Cubans see the light, but I find it strange when people flee a corrupt socialist country, then support the very policies they fled.... Mainly because they are falsely convinced every Rep is some rebel flag toting KKK member...
The extremism we are seeing now, is extremely disheartening.. The country would be so much better off, and more informed if media outlets were no longer allowed to be partisan.. We always must understand Media are corporations, to make as much money as possible, and negative emotions are easily leveraged & monetized. Its a shame, truly.
Ummm.....pretty sure any upper respiratory infection would have caused potentially deadly results for anyone with asthma and at that age. Look it up. Thousands of deaths each year (pre-Covid) from this.
Not sure what's wrong with the effort. People have a choice whether to smoke or not. It doesn't mean they have the right to subject others to second hand smoke. People have the right to drink and get drunk it doesn't mean they have the right to get behind the wheel and drive. If someone knowingly has a contagious respiratory disease it doesn't mean they have the right to expose others at a football game. Only the ignorant can't understand that.
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I agree with you on this one. I ran a field office in 80 and 84 for the Reagan campaign. We helped spread misinformation which is common in elections but back then we didn't have cable news channels. The media back then did a better job keeping us an the opposition in check. Today its gotten out of hand. We have what I refer to as bubble media. CNN FOX, MSNBC. There not news channels there propaganda outlets just spouting bs to advance a specific agenda. People just live in their Cnn Fox Msnbc world and never really question if what there being told is the truth. Because of it campaigns have become nastier. I am not not saying it wasn't nasty at times back then but not like it is now. Today its become more personal and less about idea. If we got rid of these stations the country would be better off in the long run. I know its free speech but free speech can be dangerous when people can't discern fact from fiction.
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IM sure there are other infections that could also cause death for those with Asthma, but it wasnt another infection, it was COVID. He was pretty healthy guy, very active lifestyle, worked out, an outdoors guy who loved fishing, deer hunting, & morel hunting in spring time...
Just because another less common or rare infection could be a potential risk factor, does not justify knowingly & recklessly spreading COVID.
There are many infections, viruses, bacteria, etc that is dangerous to humans, we all do what we can to reduce those risks by bathing, washing hands, etc... These other infections dont warrant a public strategy to mitigate because of the rarity. The GOvnt did not shutdown the economy, ruin businesses, ruin lives, caused more suicides, etc or seek to reduce our liberties by imposing vaccine passports for these other rare infections. MANY people have paid a very steep price for the betterment of the community. COVID, specifically the Delta is extremely contagious, so we as responsible citizens must hold ourselves accountable for the betterment of our community, for those who are at higher risk.
That doesnt mean you should be forced to get the vaccine, it doesnt mean you are required to show a vaccine passport to engage with society, it doesnt mean you dont go on vacation or change your lifestyle. It simply means be reasonable & careful, wash your hands more, dont touch door handles with your hands, be cautious when you visit your grand parents, and if you are unlucky and get COVID, stay home, rest, hydrate, take your treatments, and dont intentionally & unnecessarily spread it and put other people at risk.
While COVID is particularly dangerous to approx 2% of humans, I dont believe it rises to the level that justifies a reduction of individual liberties, individual freedoms, etc. However, I also believe we do what we can to reduce its impact, and part of that is not going to a College Football game knowing you are contagious. That is criminal negligence, and its not even a debatable. Any prosecutor or attorney will agree.. Intentionally infecting other people with ANY illness is illegal.
If this story is true, and that kid wasnt just making a stupid joke, I would imagine he will be criminally pursued, esp if someone comes forward that got covid at/after the game. As he certainly should be.
Just because you or those you love may be at a lower risk, does not justify reckless behavior that seriously jeopardize other citizens. I have no false perspective about this virus. Its not Ebola, but it is far worse then a typical flu, which is also potentially deadly to high risk people. If you got COVID and was down and out for two weeks, because someone knowingly infected you, you would absolutely be irate about that, even if you didnt have serious symptoms.
I dont think people should have to change how they live their life, as long as that dont endanger other humans. When you look at all the laws we have in the U.S., a very large % of them are there to protect the health of its citizens. Its a pretty simple and morally justified perspective to generally care about the welfare of your fellow humans, WVians, & community.
Complete opposite of what I've heard. Those unvaccinated are now taking up residence in the hospitals. Especially 19 to 40 year olds. So somebody has to be making up stories.
"Humanity includes ALL people, not just the young & perfectly healthy + fit. Our Laws are for everyone, not just for specific religions, races, body sizes, or age groups. We kinda take the whole "All men are created equally" seriously, its what makes this so great, along with individual liberties."
True, but the dangers of infectious disease to those that are not young and healthy have always existed. Multiple people, such as those on chemotherapy or immunosuppressants for autoimmune diseases, are at increased risk of infection. Sure this guy is an *******, but the prevailing implication from so many is that EVERYONE else has responsibility to protect these vulnerable folks rather than the vulnerable taking the responsibility for their own risk assessment and safety. This is the way it was done until 2020 and no one offers a good explanation as to why it suddenly should change.
"Im not sure why you think a conversation with my X wife about what shes treating in the hospital with regard to COVID is her having an axe to grind. She loves her job, she was expressing concern about it, because the delta variant is worse then some media outlets are discussing. Compared to the original variant, shes seeing a far higher % of younger people, and a higher % of serious symptoms."
Perhaps I shouldn't presume motive, but if it is not an axe to grind, it is unintentional anecdotal evidence that clouds the issue. No matter what she is seeing, that does not mean the overall data are reflective of her work environment. Delta is more infectious, but a significantly higher percentage of serious symptoms is not the case. Again, the increased number of infections results in increased number of serious symptoms compared to the alpha variant. This is particularly true if your area was not hit that hard with the alpha wave which makes up most places outside of NY and NJ. Increased total numbers does not reflect increased total percentage.
"The entire point of this thread was not about individual liberties, vaccines, partisanship, etc.... It was a kid knowingly endangering peoples health & lives by going to a very crowded & close proximity public event and intentionally spreading COVID. If its wasnt a stupid joke.... Which who knows at this point. Either way, very idiotic. After all the BS the govnt has done the past year, and everything they are trying to do, its actions like this that works against those who are trying to source reason, fairness, & balance. Recklessness & Negligence like that will only further an outcome we both do not want nor support."
Yes the kid is an ******* for doing that. He would be if he did the same with flu or the cold. Just be intellectually honest with what is going on. Coming to a game with COVID is closer in danger to coming to the game with flu or cold than say Ebola. DUI is far more likely to harm someone than doing what this guy did. Hence, if you hold this kid in such higher contempt than the other examples I mentioned it is not based upon facts, but rather political manipulation.
True, but the dangers of infectious disease to those that are not young and healthy have always existed. Multiple people, such as those on chemotherapy or immunosuppressants for autoimmune diseases, are at increased risk of infection. Sure this guy is an *******, but the prevailing implication from so many is that EVERYONE else has responsibility to protect these vulnerable folks rather than the vulnerable taking the responsibility for their own risk assessment and safety. This is the way it was done until 2020 and no one offers a good explanation as to why it suddenly should change.
"Im not sure why you think a conversation with my X wife about what shes treating in the hospital with regard to COVID is her having an axe to grind. She loves her job, she was expressing concern about it, because the delta variant is worse then some media outlets are discussing. Compared to the original variant, shes seeing a far higher % of younger people, and a higher % of serious symptoms."
Perhaps I shouldn't presume motive, but if it is not an axe to grind, it is unintentional anecdotal evidence that clouds the issue. No matter what she is seeing, that does not mean the overall data are reflective of her work environment. Delta is more infectious, but a significantly higher percentage of serious symptoms is not the case. Again, the increased number of infections results in increased number of serious symptoms compared to the alpha variant. This is particularly true if your area was not hit that hard with the alpha wave which makes up most places outside of NY and NJ. Increased total numbers does not reflect increased total percentage.
"The entire point of this thread was not about individual liberties, vaccines, partisanship, etc.... It was a kid knowingly endangering peoples health & lives by going to a very crowded & close proximity public event and intentionally spreading COVID. If its wasnt a stupid joke.... Which who knows at this point. Either way, very idiotic. After all the BS the govnt has done the past year, and everything they are trying to do, its actions like this that works against those who are trying to source reason, fairness, & balance. Recklessness & Negligence like that will only further an outcome we both do not want nor support."
Yes the kid is an ******* for doing that. He would be if he did the same with flu or the cold. Just be intellectually honest with what is going on. Coming to a game with COVID is closer in danger to coming to the game with flu or cold than say Ebola. DUI is far more likely to harm someone than doing what this guy did. Hence, if you hold this kid in such higher contempt than the other examples I mentioned it is not based upon facts, but rather political manipulation.
I can't speak for Massachusetts' numbers, but most of the seriously ill hospitalized across the US are unvaccinated. The numbers are skewed because they are not differentiating those admitted FOR COVID or those admitted WITH COVID. Example: a vaccinated and asymptomatic person breaks their leg, but tests positive for COVID on screening prior to admission to the hospital is counted as a "COVID hospitalization." Being vaccinated and at risk with immunocomprising diseases (including controlled diabetes), obesity, elderly, lung diseases, etc... is still MORE likely to result in COVID illness requiring hospitalization than being unvaccinated while being young and healthy.
Oh please, I have relatives and friends that are dead from Covid 19 that would still be here if not for the virus. Do you know of any people that died in the last couple of years from the virus that would still be living?
Do a little research before you post . Its easy ask google the deaths in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Check the difference.
I didn't stop the world for anything but I'm smart enough to know that covid is bad **** and still with us killing every day.
I have no idea whether this Justin character actually had Covid or not. Maybe he was just trying to get hits on one of his social media sites and he may have been dumb enough to attend a game with 60,000 fans in attendance so he could share his Covid with the crowd. Either way I can share a similar experience.
My son has been in and out of Ruby Hospital for going on 6 months being treated for stage 4 cancer. It's standard policy there for everyone to wear a mask and I have only seen one person inside the building without a mask on, and I happened to have the misfortune of getting on the elevator with him. That's when he told me that he just left from visiting his wife who had Covid. Terribly irresponsible on his part to not have a mask on.
My son has been in and out of Ruby Hospital for going on 6 months being treated for stage 4 cancer. It's standard policy there for everyone to wear a mask and I have only seen one person inside the building without a mask on, and I happened to have the misfortune of getting on the elevator with him. That's when he told me that he just left from visiting his wife who had Covid. Terribly irresponsible on his part to not have a mask on.
What your not understanding is the places that are refusing services for the unvaccinated. That's why I said if you want to compare, then it would be if you smoke you cannot shop here (not allow them in a smoking area). If you are a smoker, we won't serve you. That would be the comparison.
So if you could imagine a situation where the airlines say that since smoking is prohibited on planes, and smokers are a risk of sneaking a smoke, they are only allowing non-smokers to fly on planes and you must provided lung x-rays and a doctor's verification that you are a non-smoker in order to buy a ticket to fly.
THAT would be the equivalent to what is going on with vaccine requirements.
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I know people that died from the flu prior to 2019. Remember that, the flu? It doesn't exist anymore I guess.
L'm done with you , You calling someone a " Pu$$y " because they were concerned about Covid didn't sit well with me. I can see you're trying to justify this by your comments. Hopefully you are not the insensitive person your posts are portraying.
Yes I remember the flu , it killed about 60,000 people per year . Moountaineer , Covid just topped 700,000 deaths its more deadly and more contagious. Did you hear that 700'000 and please don't try to say all these weren't Covid related or from the flu.
Take care and my wish is you and your family and friends stay safe.
Wait until the deaths have been adjusted in a few years. You'll see the numbers WAY down from current levels. It's not hard to understand that flu related deaths suddenly disappeared the past 2 years. They didn't. Just saying. Not my opinion, just logic.
I called them a pu$$y because you can't live your life in fear. Are they not going to allow their child to drive when they are 16? Afraid they'll be killed in a crash? Or go off to college because they are in fear they'll get raped or murdered?
I'm not insensitive, I'm living my life without fear.
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Covid is a very dangerous virus. It's almost the perfect killer, going after elderly and people with conditions, overweight, etc in particular. People who weigh down the health care system, benefits, etc. No one will ever convince me that this came from nature. This virus does not fit with natural evolution at all for one thing, especially looking at the delta variant. But this all does fall in line with a lot of the things they taught me in college about overpopulation and how people need thinned out. Some of the folks I studied with have been wishing death upon people since the 90's over the fear of overpopulation. I imagine many of them are the same ones wishing death upon the unvaccinated, or in general people who disagree with their world view in todays world.
But hey, guess what, there is HOPE. They found a cure for Covid!!! Even Dr Fauci is touting it, and a Dr I know is really hoping to be able to start using it right away because he thinks it will stop the pandemic in its tracks (like it already did in one of the biggest states in India and some other 3rd world countries). You can read about it here: https://www.wdtv.com/2021/10/01/merck-says-covid-19-pill-successful-will-seek-authorization-use/
Now something to keep in mind, is Merck, the same company who invented the out-of-patent Ivermectin is the company behind this new cure pill. So basically they reformulated Ivermectin, the "dangerous horse de-wormer" according the the mainstream media, so that they could have a shiny new patent and charge $700 per dose, since Ivermectin is like 10 cents per pill. It will stop the pandemic and I do believe that, and make a lot of people very wealthy in the process. They already killed off a lot of people, thinned out the herd some, and people will still be dying for years to come from after effects of covid and the covid shots because of the blood clotting nature of all of it. They have made billions and billions of dollars pushing vaccines that arent even real vaccines, more like a flu shot tailored to covid. But thousands of doctors have been taking a stand, and drugs like Ivermectin are being proven to work and the MSM just cant keep hiding it, so they are finally going to do their thing and let it come to an end. They just had to find a way to profit from it first.
Now remember kids.... Always believe what the MSM tells you, trust all pharm companies and the medical industry as a whole because they are just here to help you and save you. They love you and they dont care about the money, they just need it to pay their bills, trust them. And dont forget to listen to what big brother tells you too. Dont fall out of line and do something crazy like think for yourself. Someone might want you dead for it, and hell it could even be one of your own family members in this day and age.
But hey, guess what, there is HOPE. They found a cure for Covid!!! Even Dr Fauci is touting it, and a Dr I know is really hoping to be able to start using it right away because he thinks it will stop the pandemic in its tracks (like it already did in one of the biggest states in India and some other 3rd world countries). You can read about it here: https://www.wdtv.com/2021/10/01/merck-says-covid-19-pill-successful-will-seek-authorization-use/
Now something to keep in mind, is Merck, the same company who invented the out-of-patent Ivermectin is the company behind this new cure pill. So basically they reformulated Ivermectin, the "dangerous horse de-wormer" according the the mainstream media, so that they could have a shiny new patent and charge $700 per dose, since Ivermectin is like 10 cents per pill. It will stop the pandemic and I do believe that, and make a lot of people very wealthy in the process. They already killed off a lot of people, thinned out the herd some, and people will still be dying for years to come from after effects of covid and the covid shots because of the blood clotting nature of all of it. They have made billions and billions of dollars pushing vaccines that arent even real vaccines, more like a flu shot tailored to covid. But thousands of doctors have been taking a stand, and drugs like Ivermectin are being proven to work and the MSM just cant keep hiding it, so they are finally going to do their thing and let it come to an end. They just had to find a way to profit from it first.
Now remember kids.... Always believe what the MSM tells you, trust all pharm companies and the medical industry as a whole because they are just here to help you and save you. They love you and they dont care about the money, they just need it to pay their bills, trust them. And dont forget to listen to what big brother tells you too. Dont fall out of line and do something crazy like think for yourself. Someone might want you dead for it, and hell it could even be one of your own family members in this day and age.
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Thinking someone has the "right" to intentionally spread a virus, because they have the "right" to do what they want when they want, no matter how it may effect other people, certainly qualifies for being insensitive.
There is no defense for what that kid did. If we didnt have laws to place limitations of free will & individual liberties it would be chaos.
IM all for small govnt, low taxes, low regulations, etc..... but every civil society places certain laws to maintain safety, security, and a foundation that nurtures a prosperous future. A simple example: Liberal cities reduce the penalty for shoplifting, now you see it happening in broad day-light without any concern of consequences.
Being reasonable, respectful, & mindful of other people, is not being a ***** or living in fear. Its being a responsible member of your community. That doesnt mean you change your lifestyle, live in fear, or accept draconian policies, but it does certainly mean you dont go to a massive public & close proximity event knowing you are contagious with a potentially fatal virus, OR think that is ok because if you want to go to a game no one has the right to stop you, no matter how your decision may effect other people.
If you are sick, stay home. If you are not, then live your life... Pretty basic fundamentals, that 99.99% of logical humans would not feel inhibit individual liberties.
I never defended that person for what they did. I don't give a **** about him. I also don't give a **** about people trying to force me to take a vaccine, or to wear a mask, and using FEAR to justify it.
You are NOT a "small government" person. You have proven that by jumping in and wanting this "Justin" to be dealt with. You are promoting mob rule.
If I don't feel well, I'm not going to stay home. I've went out to stores, games, etc. prior to 2019 when I had a runny nose, or headache, or cough, etc etc etc. That's the "fear" that you proclaim you aren't part of that you actually are promoting and do not believe it. Do a self-evaluation and you'll see. You have bitten hook-line-sinker.
People are allowed to be utter ********. The limit is at what likelihood their behavior poses a risk to others. You have the right to a firearm, but you don't have the right to fire it all willy nilly in a neighborhood. The reason is there is a very high correlative external risk there. On the flip side, say someone with known influenza goes to a grocery store or tries to tough it out at work. Would you advocate criminal punishment for this person? If not why?
So when fast food workers are allowed to work while having Hep C and Hep A and HIV and those places do not post that their workers have these diseases, does it not qualify as "insensitive" or even "deadly"?
So before med school, I used to work in the Kanawha Valley doing patient transport after undergraduate school. There was HIV patients in the hospitals that simply had to only have a "contact precaution" sign on their door before going in. Luckily the nurses would tell me to fully gown up and other extra precautions that are not typically recommended for simple contact precautions. You don't see these type of health information protections for people with Covid. Notice you don't see Kanawha County Hospitals sating the locations of these hotspots with HIV or which hospitals have been showing or seeing these positive patients.
Does "failure to disclose a more deadly disease than Covid" = insensitive?
These people look at the raw numbers being put out there by the media and government and have decided it to be 100% factual and believe it. They refuse to use logic, or to ask questions. Instead, anyone who asks questions or doesn't buy in 100% are looked as being "insensitive" or bad people. That's simply not true on my end. It amazes me how supposed intelligent people can be led down the path of misguidance or at least down the path of refusing to look at logic or question. It's like the Dark Ages all over again. Maybe it's time for a new Renaissance to further promote questioning and logic to wake everyone us?
And to piggy back off the last 2 sentences, should HIV+, Hep A+, Hep C+, and other bloodborne illness carriers that knowingly go out in public be punished as well considering the deadliness of their diseases, the ease of transmission from person to person, and the cost of treatment and strain on the medical system?
Should females who have HPV or another STD that they don’t disclose and give to a guy be criminally punished? Before any consensual sexual contact, should both parties provide proof that they are STD free and if it falsified or not shown, then that party should be criminally punished?
Should everyone wear an albatross around their necks that state what diseases and illnesses they have and what medications they take? Once you get big government more involved, then you head down this slippery slope. They use to do this with the HIV+ population, but then they started to get extra rights and benefits of privacy of their medical records because they felt they were being discriminated against.
Small Govnt still has laws, and following them does not have any correlation to the mob.. Furthermore IM not misguided about this virus, nor are my opinions formed from media sources, esp mainstream sources. I dont know how many times I can say it. Its not Ebola, but its also far worse then a typical flu.
Its perplexing to tribalist how someone can form a balanced non-partisan opinion, uninfluenced by any particular political party's agenda or alignments.
MY thoughts are formed by knowing someone who died from COVID, who would have otherwise be alive if he just caught a typical flu. By speaking with my X that works in the ICU, and the patients shes treating and the symptoms shes seeing...
Its not a cause to live in fear, but it certainly justifies the pursuit of criminal negligence if someone intentionally spreads the virus. Which is the topic of this thread.
Your opinion about this virus is of no concern when it comes to the law. We have specific laws in place that ensure people who intentionally infect other people or compromise their health are punished according to the crime committed. Thats non-partisan, its a pretty basic fundamental in any civil society.
Frankly, since you are not defending this kid's actions, which is what this thread is about, then there is nothing else to add.
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Hell man, we all know you aren’t an idiot. And I don’t think that you think we are idiots as well. I don’t believe any of us are justifying his actions because it’s just a douche move to even do, positive or not for Covid. And I think he accomplished what he wanted by just getting the attention. I think most of us just tend to disagree of repercussions or no repercussions.
So you are forming your opinion from emotions. Cool. Just like our government is doing.