Nobody denying the past. But thats what it is, the past. And it wasn't in our lifetime. No reason to use it as a crutch.
Keion Brooks
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There were only 4 teams that integrated before Kentucky, slow to integrate makes it seem like they were years behind everyone else. You ask for real talk, but what actual evidence do you provide where rupp should be classified as a racist, a Disney movie?
Is it true that rupp had a black player in his very early coaching days, before UK? Is it true that while recruiting black players he was honest with them and told them it was going to be very hard for them in the SEC, and things of that nature?
There is also a perception that many of us sleep with our cousins and don’t wear shoes and are just a bunch of dumb rednecks, should we just accept that and say, “well perceptions exist for a reason, so guess it’s true.”
Now we are going in circles and you are back where you started
I think this board and all who spend time on it would be better served if we resist the temptation of discussing topics, such as race, ethnicity, religion, etc. that we know very little about. This is a message board to discuss sports which is where discussions should start and end, imho.
Just for the record there were a handful of Jewish players who played under Rupp throughout the decades. Probably the most famous was Bernie Opper who came to UK from New York City. He became intrigued by the team after seeing them play when they visited Madison Square Garden in the mid 1930s. He was a well known player in the New York City area in high school and playing for the YMHA (Young Men's Hebrew Association, Jewish counterpart to the YMCA). He asked college coaches Nat Holman and Clair Bee to send letters of recommendation to Rupp on his behalf. Opper went on to become an All-American at Kentucky in 1939.
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I don't think Black players needed Rupp to tell them that it would be hard to play at UK. Their lives outside of basketball and their parents' shared experiences had already prepared them for life in general and not just basketball.
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Did you just respond to your own post.............and actually critique it also????
How much you had bro?
Game Day, right???
Don't assume that you know all there is to know about this thread and when it occurred. To answer your question, if that line of posting is allowed, then those with opposing viewpoints need to be vocal or some will think that everyone agrees with that nonsense.Did you just respond to your own post.............and actually critique it also????
How much you had bro?
Game Day, right???
Perceptions exist for a reason. Lmao yeah, usually due to propaganda. Some people just cannot think for themselves.
The herd mentality is alive and well. If asked, most don't know why they do the things that they do, but if enough others are doing it, it must be something that they should do or say. This is how way too many people think.
Which idiot are you referring to? There are several on here including me according to some, so I just need to know if I am the idiot who should respond. Lol
You are extremely annoying. You defend a players right to use his platform in sports to espouse beliefs spawned out of pure ignorance. You then try to tell fans they shouldn't talk about it. Welcome to ignore. I've had my fill of your stupidity.
Learn how to write and it won't be any trouble to keep up, but when you don't know what you are posting about the inability to post with clarity is easily understood. As for being annoying to you, ask me if I care?
I am pretty sure that you are indescribable. I am also certain that I don't care what you think.
Not for me...it was strictly his deficiencies as a player and the fact that he was the same exact player when he left us that he was when he first got here. Didn't improve one aspect of his game in 3 years. That's what had me pining for Toppin to get more run last year
You are just angry because black players won't just shut up and entertain you. You don't want to hear what they have to say because it might cause you to have to consider their humanity. They are not simply here for your delight. They experience real life issues that are greater to them than simply entertaining you.
You are correct about Brooks not improving which can be said about most players who have played at UK over the past 7 to 8 years. More often than not, it is after former UK players get to the NBA that we learn just how good they really are.
That old coot must be a drunk. It's the only way I can describe his behavior.Did you just respond to your own post.............and actually critique it also????
How much you had bro?
Game Day, right???
Wrong. The derogatory comments are due to Brooks lack of knowledge of the topic he was so vocal on. He even admits that he hasn't done homework on it.
I dont give a chit what color the kid is, but if you want to speak poor about a UK coach in the media, have the intelligence to figure it out on your own without hearsay. Im not sure how anyone can defend a kid bashing a dead person publicly without educating himself in the topic...but here you are.
He's an idiot. I said the other day that Wheeler should not be reading message boards and he went off. Said my parents should be embarrassed. Over that. He's crazy and drunk.
The criticism that Brooks received was for more than what he said about Rupp; he was also criticized for kneeling. The kneeling part is my concern because the kneeling was about what was going on at the time and not something historical. You could have criticized him for the Rupp comments without getting into slavery and all the other stuff you brought up. As for his issues with Rupp, if Brooks didn't like Rupp, he shouldn't have gone to UK.
Bottom line is people dont like criticism of a home town hero, especially if theres nothing to back it up.
As for kneeling, maybe a Brittany Griner-type vacation wouldve made him appreciate his country a little more. I dont like BLM protestors, but im not going to throw MLK under the bus to gain attention for it....as that would be disrespectful to his family and the people who died.
Brooks or no other player needs your approval for the actions they take. Blacks were kneeling because they didn't like the fact that so many unarmed men who looked like them were being murdered by police. As for your suggestion that Brooks should take a Brittany Griner-type vacation, do you feel the same about the idiots who attacked our nation's capital, tried to overthrow the government?
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i agree that unarmed criminals should not be killed
the problem is not skin color but people that should not be police officers
i am sure you know that every year there are more white unarmed criminals killed by police then there is black unarmed criminals
Yeah, actually he does need the fans approval or his life becomes a lot more difficult. See how that NIL money comes in if youre bashing dead coaches without proof.
As for the nations capital comments- No, i dont. They tried to over throw the government? They marched in and left in a few hours without setting fire to one thing. Those guys were armed to the teeth, if they wanted to take the capital, they could have for days. And since when is marching into a building thats empty trying to throw the government in a 50 state country? Exaggerate much?
I think youre confused with the BLM riots and fires that went on ALL SUMMER with thousands of businesses burned to the ground with hundreds of total losses, in dozens of towns and cities. Ohhhh....but the redencks that stormed the capital building for a few hours was much worse..lol
Someone pulled over for a simple traffic violation isn't considered a criminal, but it seems hard for some folks to not see beyond skin color. To some, I guess all men of color are considered criminals until proven otherwise.
Your response to the attempted overthrow of our government tells me everything that I need to know about you. It is amazing how you so clearly have issues with Brooks but not with people who trashed our nation's capital and wanted to kill the VP and the Speaker of the House. I will not have any further discussions with you.
it happens to all races but you fail to acknowledge that fact
a white unarmed criminal getting killed by police does not make national news
yes some of them for simple traffic violations
i seen a video of a white male around 30 on his knees with his hands behind his head begging a police officer not to kill him
the officer executed him in the hall way
did you see that on national news?
as i said it is wrong for any unarmed person to be killed by law enforcement regardless of race
over 99% of law enforcement are good officers
but like everything in life you get some that are bad
Just let it go. I am not going to read any more of your nonsense.
Yes but I believe if I remember correctly that was something Rupp was said to emphasize when recruiting black players early on in the integration days, this was a comment in general to the poster who emphatically stated that Rupp was racist.
This was one of a few examples that could be used to show that maybe Rupp wasn’t as racist as their evidence, which is the only perception.
I don’t know why you felt the need to make a fairly obvious point, while ignoring the entirety of my response. Anyone with a brain would know that a black person had it bad off back then, and would have difficulty in the SEC.
I quoted a poster that said Rupp was racist and his evidence was, “well if people thought it back then they had to have a reason so it’s true.” Looking for evidence of this claim while showing ways it could be the opposite, not trying to make a general statement on the difficulty of a black person’s life in the south, but specifically citing Rupp.
not willing to acknowledge facts says a lot about your mindset
i am going to make this easy put me on ignore i will do the same for you
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Rupp coached well before my time. What he did or didn't do means nothing to me.
It must have meant something because you inserted yourself in a conversation between two other people about him.
Then hush. You are starting to show ignorance of I program that I have no doubt, you are a fan of. You aren’t going to win this one.
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