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Except in many ways he did lead desegregation. True in terms of having a black player suit up for him on a varsity team he was not the first, but he was the first in many other areas, and publicly so.

My issue is that many of the same people today who want to criticize Rupp for not being more successful back then either did or (if they were alive back then would have) actively tried to dissuade black recruits away from Rupp and UK.

If you want to talk about sweeping the issue under the rug, that's the real discussion people are afraid to have.
The only thing missing is that he walked on water, parted the red sea, healed the blind, fed the hungry,
What exactly did they do to overthrow the government? I’ll wait. What did they do beyond being let into the capital building, they didn’t break in btw, they were let in. Nobody died except a woman who was shot by DC police and a bunch of them took pictures. Now tell us exactly what they did to overthrow this government.
God help you if you believe half the crap you posted.
 
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Oscar should be ashamed of himself for that half hearted defensive effort that he just gave. He did absolutely nothing that looked close to defense.
 

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God help you if you believe half the crap you posted.
exactly you have no argument otherwise, not a single example. When did the government shut down, what realistically happened to impede the government or electoral process? More damage happened in Atlanta last night by 6 Antifa scumbags than on Jan. 6. So until you post anything remotely viable that shows those people did anything to legitimately overthrow the government your argument holds no water.
 

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Slavery was a long time ago, nobody alive was a slave, not even their daddy’s or great daddy’s were slaves now. People who rely on that are just looking for handouts. If everyone would get past it, it would die. But now we have the opposite spectrum, that white people are punished simply for being white. They don’t get jobs, and now in some states even honors that they earned simply because of their skin color. But for some reason hating white peoples for their skin color isn’t racist. Everyone has an equal opportunity to become something in America, in fact many things exist to help minorities in every walk of life now. If America was so terrible to non whites they would leave, but nobody ever does because they have it easy in reality.

exactly you have no argument otherwise no a single example. When did the government shut down, what realistically happened to impede the government or electoral process? More damage happened in Atlanta last night by 6 Antifa scumbags than on Jan. 6. So until you post anything remotely viable that shows those people did anything to legitimately overthrow the government your argument holds no water.
Yea I’m not gonna touch this
 

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Yea I’m not gonna touch this
Nobody cares if you touch it or not. You don't know what you're talking about. JPScott exposed that. You're a troll, trolling. All I've seen of you is to wrongly insinuate that UK fans are racists. And use offensive terms for the developmentally disabled. I guess the mods don't care about that, though. Keep stirring that poop.

Tell me, should I be angry at the Italians, Arabs, and Egyptians for enslaving my ancestors? Or is it ok to finally let go of the hate, centuries later?
 
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Nobody cares if you touch it or not. You don't know what you're talking about. JPScott exposed that. You're a troll, trolling. All I've seen of you is to wrongly insinuate that UK fans are racists. And use offensive terms for the developmentally disabled. I guess the mods don't care about that, though. Keep stirring that poop.

Tell me, should I be angry at the Italians, Arabs, and Egyptians for enslaving my ancestors? Or is it ok to finally let go of the hate, centuries later?
Dude, trust me. Stick to your emoticons.

As for JPScott, love the dude’s website and his work. Have emailed him about it in past. However, facts are facts, and Kentucky was behind the ball when it came to segregation. It’s definitely a blemish on Rupp’s resume. As initially stated, it’s not a cut and dry issue. Do I think Rupp was racist? No. I think, as stated, he didn’t meet standards at Kentucky when it came to that issue.

As for you believing you‘re racist or you insinuating I called anyone racist. I don’t know what do with that. You’re welcome to point out where I did that I guess. Maybe projecting? Anyways, I can always spar in debate. Carried a fairly objective conversation with @Ron Mehico. Neither of us insulted. Just disagree.
 

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Oscar should be ashamed of himself for that half hearted defensive effort that he just gave. He did absolutely nothing that looked close to defense.
You should be ashamed for trashing Oscar. Our players don't deserve that!!
 

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Dude, trust me. Stick to your emoticons.

As for JPScott, love the dude’s website and his work. Have emailed him about it in past. However, facts are facts, and Kentucky was behind the ball when it came to segregation. It’s definitely a blemish on Rupp’s resume. As initially stated, it’s not a cut and dry issue. Do I think Rupp was racist? No. I think, as stated, he didn’t meet standards at Kentucky when it came to that issue.

As for you believing you‘re racist or you insinuating I called anyone racist. I don’t know what do with that. You’re welcome to point out where I did that I guess. Maybe projecting? Anyways, I can always spar in debate. Carried a fairly objective conversation with @Ron Mehico. Neither of us insulted. Just disagree.
Were you alive, a contemporary of Rupp? Were you an adult in the 40s, 50s, 60s? No? Then you don't know what you're going on about. Unless you lived it, your shouldn't judge it. You come off like a whiny clown that is grasping at something to be outraged about. But tell me, should I still be angry at the Italians, Arabs and Egyptians? You're a clown.
 
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Were you alive, a contemporary of Rupp? Were you an adult in the 40s, 50s, 60s? No? Then you don't know what you're going on about. Unless you lived it, your shouldn't judge it. You come off like a whiny clown that is grasping at something to be outraged about. But tell me, should I still be angry at the Italians, Arabs and Egyptians? You're a clown.
Are you angry at Italians, Arabs or Egyptians? Also, you seem to be indicating black people hate white people and that’s your take away. People are diverse. I’m sure some do. Most don’t, but not sure where you’re picking up this is about hating races. Think that’s sort of the opposite
 

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I find it interesting that the argument of dissuading black players from playing at UK doesn't apply to other states, especially in the south. Why was Kentucky singled out where other states were successful?

Furthermore, what I stated is that Rupp lagged behind the rest of the country in segregation at Kentucky. In a program which prides itself being a leader, this is clearly an area where Kentucky was not.

1928 - The first black college basketball player - George Gergory - Columbia University
1947 - Don Barksdale - First black All-American at UCLA
1947 - William Garrett joins Indiana, breaking the gentlemen's agreement that barred black players from Big 10
1946-1947 - John Wooden's Indiana State program rejects invitation from NAIB due to policy banning African Americans
1948 - John Wooden led Indiana State with a black player, plays NAIB final in Louisville with black player
1951 - Two black players join Notre Dame
1951 - First black player at Kansas
1962 - First black player at Syracuse
1955 - San Francisco Dons play in NCAA championship with 3 black players (including Bill Russell)
1956 - First black player at Missouri
1962 - Three black players enroll at the University of Louisville
1963 - Clem Haskins and Dwight Smith became first black athletes at Western Kentucky
1964 - Kentucky officially announces desegregation of all athletic programs

1964 - First black player at North Carolina
1965 - First black player at Duke
1966 - Texas Western defeats all-white Kentucky in NCAA National Championship
1967 - Vanderbilt's Perry Wallace becomes first black SEC player
1968 - First black basketball player at Auburn, Florida
1969-1970 - Tom Payne becomes the first black player at Kentucky

Programs who integrated before Kentucky: UCLA, Indiana, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Kansas, Louisville, Western Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke
Do you have any idea how many blacks Rupp recruited unsuccessfully before 69-70? You can't force players to attend a particular school. Any attempt to recruit a player based on skin color alone is simply tokenism.
 

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Are you angry at Italians, Arabs or Egyptians? Also, you seem to be indicating black people hate white people and that’s your take away. People are diverse. I’m sure some do. Most don’t, but not sure where you’re picking up this is about hating races. Think that’s sort of the opposite
Are you ever going to acknowledge that you used an offensive term for the developmentally disabled?
 

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What exactly did they do to overthrow the government? I’ll wait. What did they do beyond being let into the capital building, they didn’t break in btw, they were let in. Nobody died except a woman who was shot by DC police and a bunch of them took pictures. Now tell us exactly what they did to overthrow this government.

I hate to be this guy but the Cletus brigade smashed in a few windows and entered the capitol that way as well. It was insurrection at worst and the world’s redneckiest temper tantrum at best. I don’t think thise misguided souls had the ability to overthrow the government, but just the fact they thought they could change the outcome of an already decided election by doing whatever that was makes them look kind of dumb.

Also, 9 people died that day, including one police officer. It was more than one person killed.

It’s just easier to say the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 and the civil unrest of Jan. 6, 2021, were both bad looks and shouldn’t be defended or excused.
 
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I hate to be this guy but the Cletus brigade smashed in a few windows and entered the capitol that way as well. It was insurrection at worst and the world’s redneckiest temper tantrum at best. I don’t think thise misguided souls had the ability to overthrow the government, but just the fact they thought they could change the outcome of an already decided election by doing whatever that was makes them look kind of dumb.

Also, 9 people died that day, including one police officer. It was more than one person killed.

It’s just easier to say the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 and the civil unrest of Jan. 6, 2021, were both bad looks and shouldn’t be defended or excused.
He knows it. He is just playing dumber than dumb, but he isn't.
 

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I hate to be this guy but the Cletus brigade smashed in a few windows and entered the capitol that way as well. It was insurrection at worst and the world’s redneckiest temper tantrum at best. I don’t think thise misguided souls had the ability to overthrow the government, but just the fact they thought they could change the outcome of an already decided election by doing whatever that was makes them look kind of dumb.

Also, 9 people died that day, including one police officer. It was more than one person killed.

It’s just easier to say the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 and the civil unrest of Jan. 6, 2021, were both bad looks and shouldn’t be defended or excused.
Nothing compared to the BLM riots.
 

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Nothing compared to the BLM riots.

Can two things be bad at the same time? Isn’t condemning both instances of lawlessness more sensible than trying to justify/rationalize one over the other based on political affiliations, both ways?

I DGAF about the left/right BS because both sides are cults of stupidity, so I’m not playing a game of whataboutism.

You shouldn’t burn things that aren’t yours. You shouldn’t break things that aren’t yours. You shouldn’t steal things. You shouldn’t put your hands on someone else or their property. That includes private property and government property. You shouldn’t vandalize property you don’t own. You shouldn’t rub poop on walls you don’t own. That should cover the BLM riots and the MAGA riot.
 

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I hate to be this guy but the Cletus brigade smashed in a few windows and entered the capitol that way as well. It was insurrection at worst and the world’s redneckiest temper tantrum at best. I don’t think thise misguided souls had the ability to overthrow the government, but just the fact they thought they could change the outcome of an already decided election by doing whatever that was makes them look kind of dumb.

Also, 9 people died that day, including one police officer. It was more than one person killed.

It’s just easier to say the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 and the civil unrest of Jan. 6, 2021, were both bad looks and shouldn’t be defended or excused.
I forgot about the police officer but his was from something non related to the incident. But I’m still waiting for whatever they did to overthrow the government. So entering the capitol, where they were let in btw, nobody addresses that. There is video of this as well. Entering the capitol that was empty and taking pictures is akin to taking down a government. The same government Biden constantly says people would need tanks and missile launchers to overthrow? Who were the other 7 that died and how did they die? Also so now all couple hundred thousand supporters there are Rednecks now? Also even the corrupt FBI said not a single weapon was found, so this group of supposed insurgents went to DC to overthrow this government without one gun. They respected DC’s gun laws but tried to overthrow them. Make this make sense.
 

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People still talkin bout Keion? Guy was and will always be subpar. Getting a ton of shots on a subpar team doesn’t make him any better.
 

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I hate to be this guy but the Cletus brigade smashed in a few windows and entered the capitol that way as well. It was insurrection at worst and the world’s redneckiest temper tantrum at best. I don’t think thise misguided souls had the ability to overthrow the government, but just the fact they thought they could change the outcome of an already decided election by doing whatever that was makes them look kind of dumb.

Also, 9 people died that day, including one police officer. It was more than one person killed.

It’s just easier to say the civil unrest in the summer of 2020 and the civil unrest of Jan. 6, 2021, were both bad looks and shouldn’t be defended or excused.
The civil unrest of 2020 cost a billion dollars in damages, the civil unrest on Jan 6. Cost a couple broken windows and some police overtime that was there for the speech anyway.
 

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There is plenty of slavery that still exist today. In countries you refuse to criticize. It's easy to talk smack about the free country you grew up in.
God dammit. I haven’t checked Rivals in a day and this is what I’m left to respond to.

But I’m curious what countries you think I refuse to criticize. Any other thoughts I have you can tell me about?
 
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Impact his family? Why do you assume that someone in Brooks's family is going to be an ex-felon who is hopped up on drugs, passing conterfeit cash and resisting arrest?
I haven't assumed that anyone in Brooks's family have or will do anything wrong. However, your assertion is that Brooks's was kneeling about the treatment of one particular person which isn't the case. I also guess you are suggesting that every black man who was arrested, beaten while in custody, or worse yet murdered was guilty of a crime. If you don't realize they weren't, you should educate yourself on the subject matter so that you know better even if you don't act better. If you know this country's history, your feelings about blacks and browns protesting unequal treatment by the law is no different than it was by many in this county during the 1950s and 1960s. Many during that time thought that all blacks who got roughed up by the law deserved it and if they hadn't done something wrong at that time, they eventually would so the treatment was justified.
 
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There is plenty of slavery that still exist today. In countries you refuse to criticize. It's easy to talk smack about the free country you grew up in.
The poster doesn't live in another country; therefore, his concerns are about what has, is, and will happen in this country. That might be a difficult concept for you to grasp.
 

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Please elaborate.
If you really want to know what took place, you don't need a poster on this board to provide you the facts about that failed insurrection. Maybe you can reach out to some of the soon to be inmates or families of those who were dumb enough to participate and will be soon off to prison. Ask those who will soon be separated from their spouses and children if the insurrection took place. Asked them if the video footage of them parading around inside the capital while chanting they wanted to hang Mike and Nancy were real. Ask the police who got the crap beat out of them if it was real. Pretending the event didn't take place doesn't make you clever; it simply gets you laughed at.
 

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Love arguments like this. You mentioned OJ, John Thompson and racial blinders but never acknowledge why a black player may take it personally that black players couldnt play at Kentucky until the same year man went to the moon.

People forget Charlie Bradshaw and the signing of Nate Northington to play football at UK in 1965. People get so up in arms about Rupp this or Rupp that..they they overlook UK being the first to integrate in SEC FOOTBALL. THIS was a big deal.

KENTUCKY was first to recruit for the conference crown- jewel sport. As a UK Alum, this makes me so proud nothing else matters.
 
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People forget Charlie Bradshaw and the signing of Nate Northington to play football at UK in 1965. People get so up in arms about Rupp this or Rupp that..they they overlook UK being the first to integrate in SEC FOOTBALL. THIS was a big deal.

KENTUCKY was first to recruit for the conference crown- jewel sport. As a UK Alum, this makes me so proud nothing else matters.
That doesn't fit burgerking and Shaft's narrative that UK fans are all racist hillbillies.
 

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The poster doesn't live in another country; therefore, his concerns are about what has, is, and will happen in this country. That might be a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Concepts are tough for you. Slavery was abolished here. That is the reparation. No one is owed anything in this country but an opportunity. Hand outs have ruined our society. Nothing should be taken from one and given to another. Life has been cruel since we started walking upright. You don't get to choose when to draw the line in the human timelines.. atrocities have levied against humans in history that make our slavery look like a vacation. So we are just going to pay everyone something with someone else's something until it stops? When does it stop?

No life is hard. Figure it out or get out of the way.
 

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Adolph Rupp was coaching integrated basketball teams long before George Wallace (aka Mr. “segregation now, segregation forever”) stood in the doorway at the University of Alabama.

He may have been a tough, crusty dude, but I believe he was actually ahead of the times in terms of race relations in the earlier part of his career.
 
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If you really want to know what took place, you don't need a poster on this board to provide you the facts about that failed insurrection. Maybe you can reach out to some of the soon to be inmates or families of those who were dumb enough to participate and will be soon off to prison. Ask those who will soon be separated from their spouses and children if the insurrection took place. Asked them if the video footage of them parading around inside the capital while chanting they wanted to hang Mike and Nancy were real. Ask the police who got the crap beat out of them if it was real. Pretending the event didn't take place doesn't make you clever; it simply gets you laughed at.

That’s quite a long winded and emotional way to say that you can’t list the 9 people who died during the events of that day.

Because it’s not true. Only one died and she was shot by Capitol police.

Not interested in a debate right now. But let’s stick to the facts at least.
 
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People forget Charlie Bradshaw and the signing of Nate Northington to play football at UK in 1965. People get so up in arms about Rupp this or Rupp that..they they overlook UK being the first to integrate in SEC FOOTBALL. THIS was a big deal.

KENTUCKY was first to recruit for the conference crown- jewel sport. As a UK Alum, this makes me so proud nothing else matters.
Doesn't fit the narrative for the race baiting, social justice warriors in this thread.
 
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