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Economy, education, pro-life, pro-police/enforcement...to name a few things.
I don’t think abortion is gonna win you anything. What would GOP governor do for police? GOP congress already passing tax reform. And teachers are the biggest reason Bevin lost.
 

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It’s the truth. Beshear has the post-911 George W Bush halo. Tornadoes, floods, Covid. This isn’t going to be the board to talk about Covid with, but I’d argue he was an extremely effective communicator and easy to empathize with during heat of Covid, especially with women.

Now, 45 Darrel’s will charm in and claim their wife is as rightwing as Anne Coulter, but I don’t think that’s reality.
 

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Or you can stop being a baby back female dog and take the bet as it was offered.

Awesome send me an email and we will sort out the rest.

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Aye, I don’t want to send you my email. Although I kind of trust you because of CBB board. When it comes time, I’ll live up to it if you’re in. Can Venmo.

Disclaimer: in 2020, I bet a moderator on this board $500 that Trump would lose and he disappeared. So, there’s that.
 

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I don’t think abortion is gonna win you anything. What would GOP governor do for police? GOP congress already passing tax reform. And teachers are the biggest reason Bevin lost.
And how did the teachers vote pan out w/ Andy? They stuck their head up their *** because their retirement was on the way to bigger and better things. Their "karen" mentality came back to bite them.
 

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but I’d argue he was an extremely effective communicator and easy to empathize with during heat of Covid, especially with women.

He also crushed the economy/killed jobs and businesses with his lockdowns.
 

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And how did the teachers vote pan out w/ Andy? They stuck their head up their *** because their retirement was on the way to bigger and better things. Their "karen" mentality came back to bite them.
Andy doesn’t have to worry about winning the teachers because he will be a better alternative for them than an anti-public school GOP governor.

Abortion will also come front and center and while I’m sure you’re all about banning abortion, majority are not. Hardline right wingers already in jeopardy on that issue alone.
 

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I would say you are the ignorant one. His approval rating after his handling of the floods has skyrocketed and there is precedent for a Republican state to continue to elect a democratic governor. With the legislature being a Republican super majority, he essentially has no power as governor except during unprecedented disasters (COVID, WKY tornados, EKY floods) when he can use executive orders. The people of WKY and EKY overwhelmingly support him because of his handling of their disasters. Can he lose? Absolutely. Will he lose? It's possible but it is certainly not set in stone.

You are going to vote for someone because of how they handled a flood?
 
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Kentucky has more registered Democrats than Republicans. It's been that way a long time.
That used to be the case but changed as of July 2022.

https://elect.ky.gov/Resources/Pages/Registration-Statistics.aspx

Just saw that another poster had already replied as such but am keeping my post b/c it has the link to the official stats.

Also, editing to add that I think Beshear will be tough to beat as an incumbent, even in a GOP majority state. He doesn't come across as a whackadoo leftie, at least not outwardly. Of the GOP candidates, I think Quarles is the strongest (anti-Hemp silliness aside) and has statewide appeal. I also always viewed Cameron as a natural successor to Mitch. While I have no doubt that he's running to win, his candidacy could also be considered as a statewide trial run against tough primary and general election opponents.
 
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You are going to vote for someone because of how they handled a flood?
I never said who I was voting for. I just know that the people who were affected by the flood look upon Andy fondly because of how he handled the days after that devastation. And yes, if I was affected by a flood, and the governor (regardless of party) handled it well while I was getting assistance to replace all that I had lost, his handling of a flood would be certainly considered when deciding how to cast my vote during his re-election.
 

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He also crushed the economy/killed jobs and businesses with his lockdowns.
This is the correct answer.

Choosing partisan Democratic policy over Kentuckians jobs is the end for Andy. I won't be surprised if he chooses not to run; he's been groomed for the national scene by his "rubber stamping" of Dem policies.

The Dems effed us... and I don't think most will forget it.
 

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I never said who I was voting for. I just know that the people who were affected by the flood look upon Andy fondly because of how he handled the days after that devastation. And yes, if I was affected by a flood, and the governor (regardless of party) handled it well while I was getting assistance to replace all that I had lost, his handling of a flood would be certainly considered when deciding how to cast my vote during his re-election.
Many of those same people were probably in the soup line due to his lockdowns during covid.
 

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A Trump backed governor was also rejected once by the public. That’s a bad sign for Daniel Cameron and couple that with the abortion ban issue, the best chance for GOP is going to be a more moderate conservative.

The problem with that is that there will not be enough difference between a moderate conservative and Andy Beshear. GOP will likely focus on Covid and lockdowns, but that’s just going to win them GOP votes they already had.
 
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Many of those same people were probably in the soup line due to his lockdowns during covid.
You are making assumptions...I am posting facts about his approval ratings due to the handling of floods. His approval ratings have climbed since the floods because of how he handled them. Does it translate to votes? Who knows. He certainly is appreciated because of it right now.
 

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Should also be noted that Beshear has had among the highest approval ratings of all governors for the majority of his term. Couldn’t find most event numbers but was >60% as recent as April. No event between now and April suggests a sudden change.
 

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You are making assumptions...I am posting facts about his approval ratings due to the handling of floods. His approval ratings have climbed since the floods because of how he handled them. Does it translate to votes? Who knows. He certainly is appreciated because of it right now.
Assumptions? Not hardly.

Here is a clip from the NYT....you can read while you enjoy your crow.....

Dec. 28, 2020
In Perry County, Ky., the local government is cutting back on garbage pickup. Magoffin County is laying off public safety workers. And in Floyd County, where food pantries are reporting that demand has tripled over the past month, officials are trying to figure out how to avoid cuts to a program distributing food to families.
“A lot of these kids, this is the only meal they get in a day,” said Robert Williams, Floyd County’s judge-executive, the chief elected official. “I can’t ask a kid to sit on a computer all day with nothing to eat.”
In cases and deaths, Kentucky hasn’t been hit as hard by the coronavirus as some other states. Like most of the country, it has experienced a surge this fall, but one less severe than in neighboring Tennessee. Kentucky’s economy is reeling all the same, particularly in rural areas already struggling.

“We were in dire need of help economically to start with, before Covid,” said Matthew C. Wireman, the judge-executive of Magoffin County, an Appalachian county where the unemployment rate was 16.7 percent in October, one of the highest in the country.
 
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Assumptions? Not hardly.

Here is a clip from the NYT....you can read while you enjoy your crow.....

Dec. 28, 2020
In Perry County, Ky., the local government is cutting back on garbage pickup. Magoffin County is laying off public safety workers. And in Floyd County, where food pantries are reporting that demand has tripled over the past month, officials are trying to figure out how to avoid cuts to a program distributing food to families.
“A lot of these kids, this is the only meal they get in a day,” said Robert Williams, Floyd County’s judge-executive, the chief elected official. “I can’t ask a kid to sit on a computer all day with nothing to eat.”
In cases and deaths, Kentucky hasn’t been hit as hard by the coronavirus as some other states. Like most of the country, it has experienced a surge this fall, but one less severe than in neighboring Tennessee. Kentucky’s economy is reeling all the same, particularly in rural areas already struggling.

“We were in dire need of help economically to start with, before Covid,” said Matthew C. Wireman, the judge-executive of Magoffin County, an Appalachian county where the unemployment rate was 16.7 percent in October, one of the highest in the country.
Your assumption is that flood victims have to be the same as those who needed a food pantry. Also, a food pantry isn't the same as a soup line. You might need ketchup to eat that crow you failed to serve to me.
 
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Assumptions? Not hardly.

Here is a clip from the NYT....you can read while you enjoy your crow.....

Dec. 28, 2020
In Perry County, Ky., the local government is cutting back on garbage pickup. Magoffin County is laying off public safety workers. And in Floyd County, where food pantries are reporting that demand has tripled over the past month, officials are trying to figure out how to avoid cuts to a program distributing food to families.
“A lot of these kids, this is the only meal they get in a day,” said Robert Williams, Floyd County’s judge-executive, the chief elected official. “I can’t ask a kid to sit on a computer all day with nothing to eat.”
In cases and deaths, Kentucky hasn’t been hit as hard by the coronavirus as some other states. Like most of the country, it has experienced a surge this fall, but one less severe than in neighboring Tennessee. Kentucky’s economy is reeling all the same, particularly in rural areas already struggling.

“We were in dire need of help economically to start with, before Covid,” said Matthew C. Wireman, the judge-executive of Magoffin County, an Appalachian county where the unemployment rate was 16.7 percent in October, one of the highest in the country.
Food pantries are a staple in Eastern Kentucky and have been for many decades. But I’m sure you have always worried about the poor children of EK and not just using this to push your agenda.
 

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Assumptions? Not hardly.

Here is a clip from the NYT....you can read while you enjoy your crow.....

Dec. 28, 2020
In Perry County, Ky., the local government is cutting back on garbage pickup. Magoffin County is laying off public safety workers. And in Floyd County, where food pantries are reporting that demand has tripled over the past month, officials are trying to figure out how to avoid cuts to a program distributing food to families.
“A lot of these kids, this is the only meal they get in a day,” said Robert Williams, Floyd County’s judge-executive, the chief elected official. “I can’t ask a kid to sit on a computer all day with nothing to eat.”
In cases and deaths, Kentucky hasn’t been hit as hard by the coronavirus as some other states. Like most of the country, it has experienced a surge this fall, but one less severe than in neighboring Tennessee. Kentucky’s economy is reeling all the same, particularly in rural areas already struggling.

“We were in dire need of help economically to start with, before Covid,” said Matthew C. Wireman, the judge-executive of Magoffin County, an Appalachian county where the unemployment rate was 16.7 percent in October, one of the highest in the country.
Those places would be best helped economically if people were helped to move out. Sorry, but what industry wants to locate there?
 

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Personally, think Quarles is the best Republican who has announced so far, would be the only one I would consider voting for.

I too thought Cameron was a lock to run for McConnell's seat when he retires, but I guess if he wins Governor, could still run for Senate (at least I think he can)
 
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Personally, think Quarles is the best Republican who has announced so far, would be the only one I would consider voting for.

I too thought Cameron was a lock to run for McConnell's seat when he retires, but I guess if he wins Governor, could still run for Senate (at least I think he can)
That tells me mitch plans to be there for awhile.
 
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...And teachers are the biggest reason Bevin lost.
Common misconception. The teachers overwhelmingly support dem candidates (they are not a swing group). They weren't the difference. The +250,000 GOP voters that voted for Cameron but not Bevin were the difference. Bevin acted like a jerk and that turned a lot of would be GOP voters off.
 
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Andy doesn’t have to worry about winning the teachers because he will be a better alternative for them than an anti-public school GOP governor.
The problem with your line of thinking is that it is all about teachers unions. Public schools put the students a few notches down their list of importance.

I say fund the students, not the system.
 

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Quarles has my vote as of now but this is a strong field, I think all 3 will have a strong appeal among republican voters.
 
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The crisis he actually had the ability to influence, he mismanaged miserably by resorting to knee-jerk, arbitrary, completely senseless restrictions, guidelines, mandates, and fear rhetoric. He played King Andy on TV for over a year.

Freedom-loving Kentuckians will remember that.
I sure will a little dictator who loved shutting state down and making people and kids wear face diapers. If anybody votes a democrat in anywhere they are dumb as hell
 

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Nobody is beating Andy. Lex and Louisville will see to it.
Let’s be clear, Beshear barely won last time. The only reason he won is because Bevin pissed off every teacher in the state. Since Covid, public education and teacher’s unions have lost support. Teacher’s unions going after parents and using the government to investigate them. That voting block is somewhat diluted, especially in Kentucky.
 

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The problem with your line of thinking is that it is all about teachers unions. Public schools put the students a few notches down their list of importance.

I say fund the students, not the system.
Yea but I’m not talking about whether we agree. Im saying as a voting block, Beshear has little concerns about teachers.
 

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^Many Parents, friends and family backed teachers and supported Beshear + all other republicans in the last election.

Teachers/school systems/school boards have used up their goodwill and will not get that kind of backing in the next election.

Beshear will have teachers/teachers unions - he will not have the extended support those people got in 2019.