Kiffin Actually Makes Sense

[3USC1801]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...fin-says-crammed-college-calendar-dumb-system

Kiffin is putting on the heat for changes to be made to the portal system. Good for him. More coaches need to speak up, IMO.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I like Diaz's comment about babysitting recruits all the way up until signing day.

 

[DrMickeySC]

I’ve often wondered this. Why does the portal open BEFORE bowl games. Open it after the national championship game and all of this gets a little calmer. And I’ll bet more players would play bowl games, too.

Now, in the bigger scheme, I say let players have one free transfer to meet the legal requirements that have come upon football through the lawsuits. Then after that, sit out for a year.

 

[18IsTheMan]

nm

 

[18IsTheMan]

I’ve often wondered this. Why does the portal open BEFORE bowl games. Open it after the national championship game and all of this gets a little calmer. And I’ll bet more players would play bowl games, too.

Now, in the bigger scheme, I say let players have one free transfer to meet the legal requirements that have come upon football through the lawsuits. Then after that, sit out for a year.

In theory. Players who wanted to would still opt out of games though. I mean, it's happening mid-season now, so I doubt delaying the opening of the portal changes much.

 

[3USC1801]

I like Diaz's comment about babysitting recruits all the way up until signing day.

I read that comment and thought, “Did he really say ‘babysit’?” But considering what Drinkwitz said about Beamer recruiting Kennard out from underneath him, it makes sense.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I read that comment and thought, “Did he really say ‘babysit’?” But considering what Drinkwitz said about Beamer recruiting Kennard out from underneath him, it makes sense.

Yeah, I assume he's referring to the fact that you have to keep recruiting your commits all the way until signing day now.

 

[Gamecock72]

I’ve often wondered this. Why does the portal open BEFORE bowl games. Open it after the national championship game and all of this gets a little calmer. And I’ll bet more players would play bowl games, too.

Now, in the bigger scheme, I say let players have one free transfer to meet the legal requirements that have come upon football through the lawsuits. Then after that, sit out for a year.

One reason for the timing is because the new semester starts in January and they would rather most all of them be enrolled so they can be part of spring practice and start working out with the team and trainers.

 

[DrMickeySC]

One reason for the timing is because the new semester starts in January and they would rather most all of them be enrolled so they can be part of spring practice and start working out with the team and trainers.

Well that makes sense. So maybe there isn’t a middle ground solution.

And I am not technically opposed to the portal. It always seemed insane to me that students were locked in regardless if coaching changes. And losing a year of eligibility was a stiff penalty. I just wish there was some middle ground that’s less Wild West.

 

[92Pony]

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Now, in the bigger scheme, I say let players have one free transfer to meet the legal requirements that have come upon football through the lawsuits. Then after that, sit out for a year.

This is a magic bullet that will put a lot of the portal paste back in the tube.

 

[KingWard]

The portal was ostensibly put where it is to enable transfers to be in their intended schools when the next term starts. If that isn't a legitimate concern, then they need to move it until after the bowls.

 

[Gamecock72]

The portal was ostensibly put where it is to enable transfers to be in their intended schools when the next term starts. If that isn't a legitimate concern, then they need to move it until after the bowls.

It would be nice if they could make some exception to transfer in after the semester starts for portal transfers but honestly, I do not know how feasible that would be. But it would be great if they could delay the portal until after all games are played. It just seems it could be a logistical nightmare to accomplish.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The portal was ostensibly put where it is to enable transfers to be in their intended schools when the next term starts. If that isn't a legitimate concern, then they need to move it until after the bowls.

I believe the spring transfer portal is still in place, right? I think the NCAA is considering eliminating it.

Nevertheless, the fact that a transfer portal exists smack in the middle of the semester would seem to indicate that it's not a legitimate concern.

 

[SouthernBelly]

I’ve often wondered this. Why does the portal open BEFORE bowl games. Open it after the national championship game and all of this gets a little calmer. And I’ll bet more players would play bowl games, too.

Now, in the bigger scheme, I say let players have one free transfer to meet the legal requirements that have come upon football through the lawsuits. Then after that, sit out for a year.

I think that is technically how it works. But evidently there are all kinds of exceptions the NCAA allows in order to waive the requirement to sit after subsequent transfers. They went from overbearing to basically not policing this at all.

 

[KingWard]

I believe the spring transfer portal is still in place, right? I think the NCAA is considering eliminating it.

Nevertheless, the fact that a transfer portal exists smack in the middle of the semester would seem to indicate that it's not a legitimate concern.

I don't call this the middle of the semester. My grandson is finishing up his work for this term now. January starts another one.

 

[Tngamecock]

It would be nice if they could make some exception to transfer in after the semester starts for portal transfers but honestly, I do not know how feasible that would be. But it would be great if they could delay the portal until after all games are played. It just seems it could be a logistical nightmare to accomplish.

There’s not a single college that I know of that starts their new spring semester on or around January 3. There’s plenty of time to transfer after bowl games

 

[Piscis]

I may be wrong but didn't a court rule that players have a right to unlimited transfers? As much as I dislike it, it seems to be only fair that athletes can change schools as freely as regular students. There are no restrictions on how many times a regular student can change schools.

It seems to me the most powerful and most effective tool is the NIL money. Make NIL payments paid monthly and subject to a player not entering the portal or sitting out any games.

 

[Piscis]

There’s not a single college that I know of that starts their new spring semester on or around January 3. There’s plenty of time to transfer after bowl games

The first week of January is when most colleges start Spring semester so we are talking a couple of days. A little quick research shows Carolina starts on Jan. 13, Clemson on Jan. 8 and UGA on Jan. 6.

 

[Tngamecock]

The first week of January is when most colleges start Spring semester so we are talking a couple of days. A little quick research shows Carolina starts on Jan. 13, Clemson on Jan. 8 and UGA on Jan. 6.

Most are after the 10th

 

[Piscis]

Most are after the 10th

UNC starts Jan 8th. 3 of the 4 I looked up start before the 10th.

 

[Gamecock72]

I believe the spring transfer portal is still in place, right? I think the NCAA is considering eliminating it.

Nevertheless, the fact that a transfer portal exists smack in the middle of the semester would seem to indicate that it's not a legitimate concern.

Does that one not lead into the summer semester?

Fall Football (FBS) Monday, Dec. 9, 2024 Saturday, Dec. 28, 2024
Football - Spring Window Wednesday, April 16, 2025 Friday, April 25, 2025

The spring semester at USC goes from January 13 to April 28

 

[Cybercock]

One reason for the timing is because the new semester starts in January and they would rather most all of them be enrolled so they can be part of spring practice and start working out with the team and trainers.

Like it matters if these newly crowned millionaires go to class.

 

[3USC1801]

Like it matters if these newly crowned millionaires go to class.

I’m curious how a publicly funded university will get around hiring them as “employees” as opposed to being students. How can an academic institution shed the student-athlete persona and still operate under the bylaws that govern public academia? Legally and politically it seems a nightmare. Maybe that’s why universities and conferences are dragging their feet in making players “employees.”

 

[Ronin A10]

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...fin-says-crammed-college-calendar-dumb-system

Kiffin is putting on the heat for changes to be made to the portal system. Good for him. More coaches need to speak up, IMO.

I'm sure he wasn't complaining when he snatched Juice.

 

[Gamecock72]

I’m curious how a publicly funded university will get around hiring them as “employees” as opposed to being students. How can an academic institution shed the student-athlete persona and still operate under the bylaws that govern public academia? Legally and politically it seems a nightmare. Maybe that’s why universities and conferences are dragging their feet in making players “employees.”

Depends on how it is structured. What is coming this summer is a revenue sharing agreement from a law suit settlement. So legally, they will still not be classified as employees. That might come in the future, but it is not there just yet.

 

[3USC1801]

I'm sure he wasn't complaining when he snatched Juice.

I bet he was complaining AFTER he got him!

 

[SILVERSPUR-rier]

My thought would be you can transfer as many times as you want, but you get 5 years (beginning when you enroll in any school that has a football program) to play 4 seasons (except 1 additional year for a medical redshirt where you have a serious injury and you play in no more than 3 games during season/post season). You shouldn't be 25 years old playing college football....

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

He used this dumb system to poach players last year and make it to the Gator Bowl. I wouldn't put anymore stock in what that guy has to say about anything related to the portal, game rules or whatever he wants to complain about. His team grossly underperformed this year despite his efforts to tamper and lure top players using said portal and NIL.

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

Not to mention teaching and coaching his players on how to fake injuries to game the clock and disrupt opposing offenses slowing the game down. He thinks everyone else is stupid. He is literally a used car salesman.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Yeah, I assume he's referring to the fact that you have to keep recruiting your commits all the way until signing day now.

And even beyond signing day