Kim Davis GoFundMe in......................................
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Can you post bond on contempt charges? The judge said he didn't fine her because others would just pay them for her. They need to put to the other non-complying KY clerks in with her.
She's had donations coming in for weeks., which is why jail was the best outcome. Kudos to the judge. That makes 2 federal judges in the same day to do the right thing. The end truly may be nigh.
Not so fast my friend.
Just saw an article that stated the judge would not jail her provided she didn't interfere with others in the office issuing marriage licenses. So, she may not go to jail, won't lose her job, will keep getting donations, and keep getting a paycheck for doing nothing.
Well if she allows the licences, then the point is moot. She turned down the proposal anyway.
She is in jail. Changing the subject slightly (but staying on topic): I heard GoFundMe has certain standards/criteria that must be met before they will allow an account to be set up. Anyone know the specifics?
In her mind set, I think she thinks that signing their license is "condoning" it. She really should resign. I'm sure some religious organization will hire her for "standing up for her beliefs".
I admire almost everyone that stands up for their beliefs regardless of my opinion on the belief. But she is in violation of her elected duties and that is simply not right and anyone that supports her stance is who I have a problem with. The position of her religious freedoms is being violating is absolutely ******** in her role of the county government..
It is simple if you are a governmental employee and especially the one that is elected, if you can not carry out your duties you leave the office.
It is simple if you are a governmental employee and especially the one that is elected, if you can not carry out your duties you leave the office.
There are two options, impeachment or recall. Impeachment proceedings have to be initiated by the state (commonwealth) legislature. The state legislature is pretty conservative so it's not likely this will happen. A recall can be initiated by the county. They have to hold a special election. It might be a moot point. The judge has said she will remain in jail until she agrees to issue licenses and her deputies are performing those duties (issuing licenses) in the meantime.
I hope the legislature doesn't do a darn thing in this case. The issue is black and white and these bible-thumpers thinking their warped beliefs is something that can protect their bigotry instead of carrying out the law need to be held accountable for their improper actions to the public. Letting the legislature remove her from office is the easy way out. Let her rot in jail until she realizes she is unfit for the office and resigns.
Can't believe Democrats are eating their own like this. I thought liberals were the accepting kind. I need some popcorn.
Your post isn't relavent to me with your labels but personally, I do not put political party before right/wrong situations unlike complete nutcases like yourself.
So you all are saying there's no room in the Democratic party for Bible believing Christians? No, I wasn't setting this question up at all.
While I commend her stance, I think her actions were incorrect. She put herself above those she was serving. The correct answer was to step down. But who am I to judge? I'll leave that to you.
Seems to me she is just following the lead of Obama - you know, only following/enforcing the laws that he wants to follow/enforce...only problem is that she is putting a 'Christian' label on it.
Both she and Obama have refused to enforce the law...I'm sure you applaud Obama's refusal to enforce immigration laws but yet rail on Davis for her refusal to enforce issuing marriage licenses to gay people...how about we all follow the law of the land and not pick and choose which ones we will or won't enforce based on our own beliefs.
I must have been mistaken. I did read an article that indicated what I said, but apparently that's not the course of action being taken.
What I find interesting are the people saying they stand behind her for standing up for her beliefs. However, she is also essentially stealing by accepting pay for work that she is refusing to do. She is also in violation of the oath of her office. But those things are OK, because she's fighting against the icky gays.
Nothing about any of this violates her religious freedoms. Nothing. Nobody is making her marry a woman (well, somebody may in prison, but that's a different issue). Nobody is keeping her from going to church. Where in the doctrine does it say that you're responsible for the actions of others, or that you are supposed to control the actions of others? Maybe it says that someplace, but there's also a lot of "he who is without sin cast the first stone" "remove the plank from your own eye", etc.
This is a legal proceeding, not a religious one.
Also, when pointing to her adultery, multiple marriages, children out of wedlock ... people say "well, that was all before she was saved". OK then, what difference does it make if gays marry if they can just get saved later and everything will be OK?
Funniest thing I have read from your hypocritical self in awhile.
Maybe you should read your many posts over the last few months calling Jimmy Carter and others bad Christians at the same time professing you practice Christianity the right way.
But at least your opinion on this subject of the clerk is properly place. Unusual.
I don't believe we have any problems with Bible believing Christians. We have problems with bigots, racists, and those that deny others their rights under the law.
LOL it has nothing to do with this thread...an elected official not enforcing the law is not the related to this thread?
Disagreeing with gay marriage is not bigotry. The law is wrong, regardless of what SCOTUS says. Government has no place in marriage whatsoever.
I agree government should be out of the marriage license business, but it is the law and she should be enforcing the law...just like other elected officials...just wish some folks would hold that standard to all elected officials regardless of part affiliation.
Nothing. She's in jail for defying a federal judge's orders. Something tells me Obama and other elected officials are enforcing laws, perhaps just not to the degree you would like. But if not....sue him and get a judge to order the elected official to do as you say.
She got there by not enforcing the law...you're okay with elected officials not enforcing the law?
Are you OK with her not doing it because in your estimation Obama isn't?
Sometimes, many times, perhaps most times, more than one person is wrong and just because one is wrong doesn't mean the other is right.
If we don't hold everybody to the same standard then we really have no principles at all.
I'm not OK with laws being enforced, but I doubt we agree on "enforcement". The POTUS simply cannot vigorously enforce every law on the books. Our budget (as depressingly huge as it is) is nowhere near big enough.
That said, if a judge told Obama to comply and he refused - I'd be all for throwing his *** in jail too. **
** BTW, POTUS prob has more constitutional rights than this famewhore.