Kobe Smith

DACats86

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It's really tough for UK to recruit the south because of lack of success against SEC teams in the W/L column.
 

hmt5000

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It hurts cause he was probably 2nd string by fall so we will have to hope the juco makes it... or one of the young guys or Hyde can spell elam.
 

KYDave32

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Its a tough loss no doubt. Stoops needs to prove that he can win on the field. Still lacking SEC depth at some positions and this kid would have been a big help..
 

Kats23

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Some people wanna jump off a bridge over one de commit lol. Kobe smith is a loss but a lot of teams have a de commit or two. Its not uncommon. This Pringle kid the staff is after looks like a stud as well, hopefully we get him.

Because it looks like Deja vu again to this recruiting class just like last year. When the 2nd half season collapse began to unfold again you heard "it's just a couple losses. We can still finish with 7 wins! Why is everyone flipping out?"

When the recruiting class started to fall apart, it stated with UK losing a big commit. It looks like it's starting again. Hopefully not, but a long way to go before NSD
 

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I get the feeling we could have won 8 games this year and playing in a bowl and this kid would have still flipped...

Stoops needs to sign a couple dt and redshirt them and develope them inro solid dt...just not very many guys like this available, which is why they went to a hybrid 3-4 def so you dont have to have as many elite dt... Provitt and now smith hurt..
 

EnPassant

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He doesn't have an offer from Georgia and likely won't get one - he's probably the 6th or 7th best DL in Georgia this year - granted its a great year for DL - but people thinking he was a day 1 starter or even a starter down the road were being pretty optimistic. He was about the 8th most recruited kid on his own HS team.
 
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I saw Archer play in person this year. Smith played more OL than DL. This is the position I think he plays in college.
 

K_TIME

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I predicted Kobie Smith would be hardest kid to hold with the way UK finished...and this is a huge loss no matter how you want to spin it...This kid would have likely started by end of year and no worse than backup DT or Nose guard..whichever position UK wanted to slate him for. THis along with Miggins/Bell looking way over their heads. UK is going to line up Miggins/Elam/Meant as our DL...let that hot mess sink in for a second.

Also, the only thing holding this class from a complete hot mess that occurred last year is many of our top rated kids are from Ky. Young, Jackson, Kash, etc.. and Leavitt was a JUCO who signed papers to enroll in Jan...so his plans were pretty definite before the death spiral to end this year.

It's really the end for Stoops at UK. The talent level of these classes are falling toward Joker/Brooks level with these decommits. His only hope is too hit a big home run with Offensive Coordinator that can bring in a coach or two with him to get this side of ball on track. Similar to when Brooks was forced to rid himself of Ron Hudson/Paul Dunn and we get JOker to OC, Randy Sanders to QB coach and Jimmy Heggins to OL. Stoops has to find a great teacher of offense and that coach has to have an OL coach that can take Schlarman's spot (Schlarman has proven he can't get it done). If we don't hit a homerun with offensive staff this year...it's all but over for Stoops.
 
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I'd rather him flip now than transfer out in 2 years. We need kids that want to turn this program around and believe in what our coaching staff is trying to accomplish.
 

birdie king

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He doesn't have an offer from Georgia and likely won't get one - he's probably the 6th or 7th best DL in Georgia this year - granted its a great year for DL - but people thinking he was a day 1 starter or even a starter down the road were being pretty optimistic. He was about the 8th most recruited kid on his own HS team.
Here it comes.
 
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DACats86

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Except Arc is a UGA fan, and has been saying the same exact thing about Smith ever since he committed to UK.
 

Anjiejo

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If they miss on gary. They need to go after justin andrews or trestyn hill... Those fl. Guys alway seem to be better then there rating..redshirt them like meant and get depth to where they dont have to play till there rs so year. Meant is a solid dt for a 2* rating. . if you cant sign enough good dt sign guys like this and let them develope.
Ill believe that that he would consider us when i see it happening...just dont think it will happen...
 
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Anjiejo

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I predicted Kobie Smith would be hardest kid to hold with the way UK finished...and this is a huge loss no matter how you want to spin it...This kid would have likely started by end of year and no worse than backup DT or Nose guard..whichever position UK wanted to slate him for. THis along with Miggins/Bell looking way over their heads. UK is going to line up Miggins/Elam/Meant as our DL...let that hot mess sink in for a second.

Also, the only thing holding this class from a complete hot mess that occurred last year is many of our top rated kids are from Ky. Young, Jackson, Kash, etc.. and Leavitt was a JUCO who signed papers to enroll in Jan...so his plans were pretty definite before the death spiral to end this year.

It's really the end for Stoops at UK. The talent level of these classes are falling toward Joker/Brooks level with these decommits. His only hope is too hit a big home run with Offensive Coordinator that can bring in a coach or two with him to get this side of ball on track. Similar to when Brooks was forced to rid himself of Ron Hudson/Paul Dunn and we get JOker to OC, Randy Sanders to QB coach and Jimmy Heggins to OL. Stoops has to find a great teacher of offense and that coach has to have an OL coach that can take Schlarman's spot (Schlarman has proven he can't get it done). If we don't hit a homerun with offensive staff this year...it's all but over for Stoops.
Ktime; I have to disagree that this class is falling back to that joker level...stoops has some very good talent coming in despite his collapse this year. Levitt,jackson,young,daniels,gilliam,jorden griffen,bonner,ect..a lot of really good athletes.
 
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K_TIME

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Ktime; I have to disagree that this class is falling back to that joker level...stoops has some very good talent coming in despite his collapse this year. Levitt,jackson,young,daniels,gilliam,jorden griffen,bonner,ect..a lot of really good athletes.
The Ky kids and Leavitt will keep it from falling back into the 50's. But I'm not holding my breath we stick some of the higher rated non KY kids when all is signed. Bonner will be a fight to the end as bigger schools have him on radar awaiting their higher rated DE kids. We'll see about Gilliam...not feeling great he's solid with UK.

I'll go on record that UK ends up on low 40's maybe high 30's when it's all settled.
 

TBCat

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Mar 30, 2007
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Rumor is that UK and Kobe Smith was a mutual parting.

D.J. Eliot is making a late push for Rashan Gary.
Yeah no doubt. Every team in the country will be pushing for Gary. The question is it a realistic push.
 

Beatle Bum

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Do fans really believe UK and Smith mutually parted ways so that UK could better pursue Gary?
 

K_TIME

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U.K. Could take Kobie Smith and Gary if we had a chance at all with Gary. This is a huge loss on Smith and to make it even worse is he goes to a team that is at our level and makes them better.
 

VikingsCat

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Something just doesn't add up here.

- December 9th Smith sign financial aid papers with UK
- No reported offer by USCjr listed to date
- December 14th dead period starts (until January 13th)
- January 12th classes start at USCjr
- January 20th last day to add/ drop a class at USCjr
 

Beatle Bum

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Reportedly had shoulder surgery recently and will not play on the all star game. Probably would not have been available for the spring.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Jun 11, 2001
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I assumed the post that mentioned Gary was just sarcastic... was anyone actually being serious about it?

Michigan seems to be the front runner for Gary, his former coach is there and 2 of his former teammates are there, Peppers and I forget the other. Auburn, LSU, Bama are recruiting him, but most of their fans feel he is Michigan's to loose at this point. Muschamp was called a bold face liar by his mother, so I would have to think SC is out of it for Gary.
 

trumpetcat

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Something just doesn't add up here.

- December 9th Smith sign financial aid papers with UK
- No reported offer by USCjr listed to date
- December 14th dead period starts (until January 13th)
- January 12th classes start at USCjr
- January 20th last day to add/ drop a class at USCjr
Exactly. I know Kobe's twitter doesn't have UK on it anymore but there was no formal decommitment which is extremely strange. This situation is as hard as Lelouch beating the Britannian Empire (like if you get the reference)
 

DACats86

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Michigan seems to be the front runner for Gary, his former coach is there and 2 of his former teammates are there, Peppers and I forget the other. Auburn, LSU, Bama are recruiting him, but most of their fans feel he is Michigan's to loose at this point. Muschamp was called a bold face liar by his mother, so I would have to think SC is out of it for Gary.
The more he attends the Bama Recruiting Soirees (also known as elite camps), the more likely he winds up at Bama.
 

DACats86

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Something just doesn't add up here.

- December 9th Smith sign financial aid papers with UK
- No reported offer by USCjr listed to date
- December 14th dead period starts (until January 13th)
- January 12th classes start at USCjr
- January 20th last day to add/ drop a class at USCjr
Now, ain't that something. One would think that 6'4", 295 lb DT that was going to walk into UK and start from day one (according to many on here) would be besieged with offers, wouldn't they?
 
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Beatle Bum

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Even with his recent surgery, USC is recruiting Smith hard. Did Stoops back off after the injury? Or, did Smith just get enamored with Muschamp?
 

vhcat70

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I predicted Kobie Smith would be hardest kid to hold with the way UK finished...and this is a huge loss no matter how you want to spin it...This kid would have likely started by end of year and no worse than backup DT or Nose guard..whichever position UK wanted to slate him for. THis along with Miggins/Bell looking way over their heads. UK is going to line up Miggins/Elam/Meant as our DL...let that hot mess sink in for a second.

Also, the only thing holding this class from a complete hot mess that occurred last year is many of our top rated kids are from Ky. Young, Jackson, Kash, etc.. and Leavitt was a JUCO who signed papers to enroll in Jan...so his plans were pretty definite before the death spiral to end this year.

It's really the end for Stoops at UK. The talent level of these classes are falling toward Joker/Brooks level with these decommits. His only hope is too hit a big home run with Offensive Coordinator that can bring in a coach or two with him to get this side of ball on track. Similar to when Brooks was forced to rid himself of Ron Hudson/Paul Dunn and we get JOker to OC, Randy Sanders to QB coach and Jimmy Heggins to OL. Stoops has to find a great teacher of offense and that coach has to have an OL coach that can take Schlarman's spot (Schlarman has proven he can't get it done). If we don't hit a homerun with offensive staff this year...it's all but over for Stoops.
- If Smith was going to be hard to hold onto, we really never had him. It's similar to retaining possession all the way thru the catch when the ball is moving around in the hands.
- If he's injured, it's not a huge loss.
- You say "decommitS". Who besides Smith?
- If you fall any at all, it has to be towards Joker, now doesn't it?
- Schlarman has proven no such thing.
 

K_TIME

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- If Smith was going to be hard to hold onto, we really never had him. It's similar to retaining possession all the way thru the catch when the ball is moving around in the hands.
- If he's injured, it's not a huge loss.
- You say "decommitS". Who besides Smith?
- If you fall any at all, it has to be towards Joker, now doesn't it?
- Schlarman has proven no such thing.
Maybe Kobie Smith was a soft commit to UK for the get and was waiting for bigger/better offers. But given how last year and this year....if UK were to at least go to a bowl game with 6 wins...I'd think our argument that UK is on the rise (especially vs. USC) would hold more water and less likely to see kids move on.

Kobie Smith is needed for his last 2-3 years...not his first year at UK. We need huge kids that can play 2 gaps on DL at UK. It''s no different than Snowbridge/Fullwood not sticking with UK and we replaced them with Josh Allen/Miggins...UK isn't likely to get better kids than Smith to produce at DT.
 
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DACats86

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Maybe Kobie Smith was a soft commit to UK for the get and was waiting for bigger/better offers. But given how last year and this year....if UK were to at least go to a bowl game with 6 wins...I'd think our argument that UK is on the rise (especially vs. USC) would hold more water and less likely to see kids move on.

Kobie Smith is needed for his last 2-3 years...not his first year at UK. We need huge kids that can play 2 gaps on DL at UK. It''s no different than Snowbridge/Fullwood not sticking with UK and we replaced them with Josh Allen/Miggins...UK isn't likely to get better kids than Smith to produce at DT.
Which bowl is USC playing in?
 

VikingsCat

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My point above, which I don't think all of you got is that Smith is an early enrollee and it's dead period until classes start at most universities. So, no coach can recruit him until school starts.