Kopp's debut

CappyNU

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Played the fewest minutes of any starter, had the worst shooting percentage of any player and missed all of his 3's.
 

Vassar69

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As fun as the schadenfreude is… isn’t this sort of a direct indictment of Collins and his ability to identify and develop talent? Miller was one of “the next great ones” and now he’s just another name in a list of kids who never came close to meeting expectations.

I know the rankings of Collins recruits are way better, but the teams Carmody was putting out were more effective than what Collins has fielded with “better recruits”.
 

NUCat320

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As fun as the schadenfreude is… isn’t this sort of a direct indictment of Collins and his ability to identify and develop talent? Miller was one of “the next great ones” and now he’s just another name in a list of kids who never came close to meeting expectations.

I know the rankings of Collins recruits are way better, but the teams Carmody was putting out were more effective than what Collins has fielded with “better recruits”.
Shhhhhhh.

I wonder how much time he spent over the past three-plus years pondering how he could have turned down the hometown Houston Cougars for North-freakin-Western.
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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As fun as the schadenfreude is… isn’t this sort of a direct indictment of Collins and his ability to identify and develop talent? Miller was one of “the next great ones” and now he’s just another name in a list of kids who never came close to meeting expectations.

I know the rankings of Collins recruits are way better, but the teams Carmody was putting out were more effective than what Collins has fielded with “better recruits”.
If you are gonna go "there" you are asking for a lot of hate.
 
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Ridiculous thread after 1 game. He had a bad night, happens. Fact is, he's clearly worked himself into the rotation at Indiana. I don't know if he will remain a starter but he might be looking at a lot of minutes. We should be rooting for him apart from when he plays against us.
 

GatoLouco

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Ridiculous thread after 1 game. He had a bad night, happens. Fact is, he's clearly worked himself into the rotation at Indiana. I don't know if he will remain a starter but he might be looking at a lot of minutes. We should be rooting for him apart from when he plays against us.
Well said. He played like horse manure. But for as many people here say we never have even average conference level players, he was impressive enough in practice for the coach to start him.
 

CSCatFan1

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Ridiculous thread after 1 game. He had a bad night, happens. Fact is, he's clearly worked himself into the rotation at Indiana. I don't know if he will remain a starter but he might be looking at a lot of minutes. We should be rooting for him apart from when he plays against us.

Why should we be rooting for him? I don’t root for anyone on IU.
 

phatcat_rivals223240

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As fun as the schadenfreude is… isn’t this sort of a direct indictment of Collins and his ability to identify and develop talent? Miller was one of “the next great ones” and now he’s just another name in a list of kids who never came close to meeting expectations.

I know the rankings of Collins recruits are way better, but the teams Carmody was putting out were more effective than what Collins has fielded with “better recruits”.
I need to know more about the reason for your screen name before I offer an opinion.
 

PURPLECAT88

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I need to know more about the reason for your screen name before I offer an opinion.
I assume she was class of '69 at Vassar. Don't scare her away. We don't have that many older ladies contributing to the site. Diversity is good.
 
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I need to know more about the reason for your screen name before I offer an opinion.
The "Vassar" part is obviously a reference to Johnnie Vassar (the entire episode did not paint our program in the most flattering light) and the "69" part is just a bit of childish raunchiness.
 
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How could he pass up an indiana offer? Its not fun losing. He had balls to leave. Why hate?
Heard directly from inside that he was always unhappy and a whiner and they were happy he left. Disappointing career and he ends up with an U of I diploma. ??
 

freewillie07

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The whole Kopp situation sort of feels like Skowronek in football at first… but the difference is Ben made a spectacular catch that sealed a win over Iowa and the Big Ten West in 2018, and if memory serves got injured in garbage time in 2019 when he shouldn’t have been out there. Kopp probably single-handedly cost NU games with his poor shooting and inexplicable FT misses.
 
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The whole Kopp situation sort of feels like Skowronek in football at first… but the difference is Ben made a spectacular catch that sealed a win over Iowa and the Big Ten West in 2018, and if memory serves got injured in garbage time in 2019 when he shouldn’t have been out there. Kopp probably single-handedly cost NU games with his poor shooting and inexplicable FT misses.
Nevertheless with our luck he’ll probably drop 30 points on us when we play Indiana.
 

PurpleFaze

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As fun as the schadenfreude is… isn’t this sort of a direct indictment of Collins and his ability to identify and develop talent? Miller was one of “the next great ones” and now he’s just another name in a list of kids who never came close to meeting expectations.

I know the rankings of Collins recruits are way better, but the teams Carmody was putting out were more effective than what Collins has fielded with “better recruits”.
To me the last few years Big 10 basketball has been the toughest I’ve ever seen it in my 40+ years of watching. Not sure some of those Carmody teams would have fared as well in the current environment
 
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To me the last few years Big 10 basketball has been the toughest I’ve ever seen it in my 40+ years of watching. Not sure some of those Carmody teams would have fared as well in the current environment
That may be true but impossible to prove definitively one way or another. It’s a fair enough apples to apples comparison. Both coached for NU in the modern Big Ten. Carmody’s long gone, Collins is our guy now and he’s gotten us to the tourney, but he’s also the only one with the current burden to produce.
 

GatoLouco

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Nov 13, 2019
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Watching the IU game vs St Johns and Kopp appears, at least to me, like he gained a few pounds. Maybe it’s the Hoosier uniforms
 

NUCat320

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I’m not watching, but Kopp has been credited with three blocks tonight, equaling his total last season. (Geez, last year’s shooting numbers were just terrible.)
 

PurpleWhiteBoy

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From 3 point land, the lads all shot between 33% and 36.5% last season.
Thats Nance, Kopp, Beran, Buie, Audige, Berry and Gaines.

Greer was 8/17 for the season (47%)

Kopp made 10 of his last 50 three-point attempts.
 

Smolmania

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Looked up his stats after 3 games. 3 starts, avging 20 mins per game. 6 of 19 from the floor, and 2 of 8 from behind the arc. 7 rebounds. 6.3 pts per game.

Meh. Not sure those are particularly big shoes to fill. . .
 

Smolmania

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PBJ otoh, in two games avging 20 pts and 10.5 rebounds. Those kinds of numbers would have fit in quite nicely with this group. Too bad UWM didn't fire his Dad so that we could have re-hired him (guess they figured the kid was likely to want to play for his Dad)
 
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From 3 point land, the lads all shot between 33% and 36.5% last season.
Thats Nance, Kopp, Beran, Buie, Audige, Berry and Gaines.

Greer was 8/17 for the season (47%)

Kopp made 10 of his last 50 three-point attempts.
Kopp’s a stiff. Glad he’s gone. He was smart to leave because he’d have very few minutes with the current NU squad.
 
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PBJ otoh, in two games avging 20 pts and 10.5 rebounds. Those kinds of numbers would have fit in quite nicely with this group. Too bad UWM didn't fire his Dad so that we could have re-hired him (guess they figured the kid was likely to want to play for his Dad)
Not sure he’ll do that against top line competition. Took the soft route in terms of competition and conference play.
 

NJCat

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Not sure he’ll do that against top line competition. Took the soft route in terms of competition and conference play.
Got just 13 points, 3 boards and 1 assist against Florida tonight. He could have taken the easy way and gone to Duke, I give him credit for playing for hs Dad.
 
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Got just 13 points, 3 boards and 1 assist against Florida tonight. He could have taken the easy way and gone to Duke, I give him credit for playing for hs Dad.
No triple double against higher level team! Not sure he has the strength to battle the big boys as a freshman.