Kragthorped?

[Buckaineer]

Let's take a look --comparison of Steve Kragthorpe who took over and promptly sent Louisville down the toilet after they had had sustained success and moved into the Big East, as compared to Neal Brown who took over a successful WVU BIG 12 squad and is producing very similar results.


Kragthorpe at Louisville. Terminated after 3 years by Louisville. Kragthorpe's contract was a 1.1 million dollar a year contract (with bonuses) for five years.

2007	Louisville	6–6	3–4	T–5th
2008	Louisville	5–7	1–6	8th
2009	Louisville	4–8	1–6	7th

Louisville:

15–21

5–16

From Wikipedia "Nine consecutive winning seasons and bowl games came to an end under the direction of Kragthrope".

And here is Brown so far for WVU: Brown was inexplicably extended by A.D. Lyons--as reported by si. com --" With four years remaining on the original agreement, the extension now puts Brown under contract for the next six seasons. In total, the six-year contract is worth $23.85 million with an average yearly salary of $3,975,000 million over the length of the six-year deal. Brown also will be eligible to receive increased annual performance incentives, if met."

2019	West Virginia	5–7	3–6	T–7th
2020	West Virginia	6–4	4–4	5th	W Liberty
2021	West Virginia	2–4	0–3
West Virginia:	13–15	7–13

Prior to Brown's arrival WVU had had winning seasons in 15 of the previous 16 seasons and 5 straight winning seasons, as well as 5 straight bowl seasons.

Brown was spared another losing season in 2020 due to Covid and missing out playing i.e. FSU, Oklahoma and it also allowed him to take another losing regular season record into a bowl to get over .500 against a G5 squad (Army 24-21).

Right now its the middle of the third year, but Brown seems to be rushing towards an 8 loss year (OSU, Texas, TCU, ISU, KSU may make it 9 losses, even KU could finish them the way they are being coached to date).

With the inexplicable extension, Brown now has until 2026, but honestly if the team has yet another losing regular season outing and continues to show decline rather than "climb" as WVU fans have been sold for three straight seasons--what do the money people do? Can you afford 4 more years of this--especially in the middle of a realignment cycle where schools like Cincinnati are excelling and moving up?

 

[WVUALLEN]

Your boyfriend was average at best.

 

[Buckaineer]

Your boyfriend was average at best.

I don't have a "boyfriend", only discuss fact--but your boyfriend is taking WVU football down the toilet. Why are you still pretending he is some great coach? -obviously no WVU fan would but you've been trolling WVU sports for years so everyone knows that seeing a successful WVU football program is not a part of your trolling ways. The reverse is true.

The last coach here, one that you spent day and night for a decade pissing on, won more games for WVU than everyone but Nehlen, but against the toughest schedules. His last four years he averaged way above the WVU norm at 8.25 wins per year and over the last five an even 8. Even at his worst he only won less than 7 games one time, his only losing season.

Your boy toy has had two consecutive five win losing regular seasons and won't likely reach that this year, has shown poor judgement, poor play calling, lack of offense, inability to develop or recruit a sound QB, etc. etc. etc. and his best talent on the field is from the previous staffs recruiting efforts.

Its a fair evaluation to compare him to a coach that nearly wrecked what Louisville had built back then--especially going into another major realignment period as WVU is facing.

 

[GetYaNumbersUp]

Louisville was doing better when Kragthorp got there than WVU was when Brown got here.

That being said, Neal Brown needs to go. If you can’t develop a QB, bring in a capable transfer (ie Grier, Trickett, or Howard) which he can’t do so his talent evaluation also sucks.

Also, why are we not hitting the JUCO and transfer ranks for skill players? That’s something Dana did fairly well (White brothers, Alford, Crawford, Sills, D. Smith, Shell, Sims just off the top of my head). Other than Leddie and maybe Wright, our RBs and receivers are not good and shouldn’t be playing at the P5 level.

OL needs a complete overhaul, and we need an OC and OL coach. So much is wrong at this point that it’s beyond repair.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Let's take a look --comparison of Steve Kragthorpe who took over and promptly sent Louisville down the toilet after they had had sustained success and moved into the Big East, as compared to Neal Brown who took over a successful WVU BIG 12 squad and is producing very similar results.


Kragthorpe at Louisville. Terminated after 3 years by Louisville. Kragthorpe's contract was a 1.1 million dollar a year contract (with bonuses) for five years.

2007	Louisville	6–6	3–4	T–5th
2008	Louisville	5–7	1–6	8th
2009	Louisville	4–8	1–6	7th

Louisville:

15–21

5–16

From Wikipedia "Nine consecutive winning seasons and bowl games came to an end under the direction of Kragthrope".

And here is Brown so far for WVU: Brown was inexplicably extended by A.D. Lyons--as reported by si. com --" With four years remaining on the original agreement, the extension now puts Brown under contract for the next six seasons. In total, the six-year contract is worth $23.85 million with an average yearly salary of $3,975,000 million over the length of the six-year deal. Brown also will be eligible to receive increased annual performance incentives, if met."

2019	West Virginia	5–7	3–6	T–7th
2020	West Virginia	6–4	4–4	5th	W Liberty
2021	West Virginia	2–4	0–3
West Virginia:	13–15	7–13

Prior to Brown's arrival WVU had had winning seasons in 15 of the previous 16 seasons and 5 straight winning seasons, as well as 5 straight bowl seasons.

Brown was spared another losing season in 2020 due to Covid and missing out playing i.e. FSU, Oklahoma and it also allowed him to take another losing regular season record into a bowl to get over .500 against a G5 squad (Army 24-21).

Right now its the middle of the third year, but Brown seems to be rushing towards an 8 loss year (OSU, Texas, TCU, ISU, KSU may make it 9 losses, even KU could finish them the way they are being coached to date).

With the inexplicable extension, Brown now has until 2026, but honestly if the team has yet another losing regular season outing and continues to show decline rather than "climb" as WVU fans have been sold for three straight seasons--what do the money people do? Can you afford 4 more years of this--especially in the middle of a realignment cycle where schools like Cincinnati are excelling and moving up?

Plot hole.....successful WVU Big12 squad . Homers are adorable.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I don't have a "boyfriend", only discuss fact--but your boyfriend is taking WVU football down the toilet. Why are you still pretending he is some great coach? -obviously no WVU fan would but you've been trolling WVU sports for years so everyone knows that seeing a successful WVU football program is not a part of your trolling ways. The reverse is true.

The last coach here, one that you spent day and night for a decade pissing on, won more games for WVU than everyone but Nehlen, but against the toughest schedules. His last four years he averaged way above the WVU norm at 8.25 wins per year and over the last five an even 8. Even at his worst he only won less than 7 games one time, his only losing season.

Your boy toy has had two consecutive five win losing regular seasons and won't likely reach that this year, has shown poor judgement, poor play calling, lack of offense, inability to develop or recruit a sound QB, etc. etc. etc. and his best talent on the field is from the previous staffs recruiting efforts.

Its a fair evaluation to compare him to a coach that nearly wrecked what Louisville had built back then--especially going into another major realignment period as WVU is facing.

Why are you pretending I claimed such a thing. My wife doesn't allow me to have boyfriends. I guess your husband gets upset at you slobbering over your men.

1,000 dollars to you if you can find a thread were I was pissing on Holgorsen for a decade much less from day 1. After him choking away the easiest Big 12 championship ever in 2018 I had enough of him.

As far as Brown. I'm done with the climb trust. Saying has lost all meaning.

Louisville had built nothing. Still haven't. They are a basketball school.

You're a troll that only shows up after losses. I guess we will have to put up with your lame *** for the rest of the year. You are a racist bigot and liberal.

 

[Buckaineer]

Why are you pretending I claimed such a thing. My wife doesn't allow me to have boyfriends. I guess your husband gets upset at you slobbering over your men.

1,000 dollars to you if you can find a thread were I was pissing on Holgorsen for a decade much less from day 1. After him choking away the easiest Big 12 championship ever in 2018 I had enough of him.

As far as Brown. I'm done with the climb trust. Saying has lost all meaning.

Louisville had built nothing. Still haven't. They are a basketball school.

You're a troll that only shows up after losses. I guess we will have to put up with your lame *** for the rest of the year. You are a racist bigot and liberal.

You are a liar and a troll. You also have a mental deficiency that makes you believe you run the board which of course you dont.

Obviously you care nothing whatsoever for WVU or its athletic programs and if you need examples of your own stupidity and lying - in your post above and 80 % of your posts you bag on DH with yet another falsehood --the latest about a BIG 12 Championship being “ easy” when its actually the most difficult to achieve due to the round robin play, toughness of the league and the rematch that must be played to win the toughest top to bottom conference.

A huge portion of your posts including the last one disparage Holgorsen so to claim otherwise is extremely laughable.

 

[Buckaineer]

A: Louisville was doing better when Kragthorp got there than WVU was when Brown got here.

B: That being said, Neal Brown needs to go. If you can’t develop a QB, bring in a capable transfer (ie Grier, Trickett, or Howard) which he can’t do so his talent evaluation also sucks.

C: Also, why are we not hitting the JUCO and transfer ranks for skill players? That’s something Dana did fairly well (White brothers, Alford, Crawford, Sills, D. Smith, Shell, Sims just off the top of my head). Other than Leddie and maybe Wright, our RBs and receivers are not good and shouldn’t be playing at the P5 level.

D: OL needs a complete overhaul, and we need an OC and OL coach. So much is wrong at this point that it’s beyond repair.

A: Disagree. WVU was playing in the BIG 12 conference averaging over 8 wins per season (had 10 wins in 2016). Louisville was playing in a depleted version of the Big East for just 2 years and the others were in CUSA. The BIG 12 was/is a much more difficult top to bottom situation.

B: Agree. He hasn't shown the ability to either recruit or develop any QB. Doege appears to have regressed a bit from his days at Bowling Green.

C: Holgorsen was blasted for bringing in JUCOs and transfers even though they were often very productive players. Agree Brown needs to find quality wherever it comes from rather than worrying about some Sunday am coaches whining about when players came into the system or from where. It doesn't matter, production does.

D: Huge regression from the DH years under Brown. Terrible rushing game and can't protect the QB.

WVU probably needs a staff overhaul.

 

[WVUALLEN]

You are a liar and a troll. You also have a mental deficiency that makes you believe you run the board which of course you dont.

Obviously you care nothing whatsoever for WVU or its athletic programs and if you need examples of your own stupidity and lying - in your post above and 80 % of your posts you bag on DH with yet another falsehood --the latest about a BIG 12 Championship being “ easy” when its actually the most difficult to achieve due to the round robin play, toughness of the league and the rematch that must be played to win the toughest top to bottom conference.

A huge portion of your posts including the last one disparage Holgorsen so to claim otherwise is extremely laughable.

Only hated Holgorsen his final year as he was nothing but a coke head and drunk.

I have posted links when I stood up for him. Of course you were probably using one of your other profiles then.

Put me on ignore dip ****.

 

[Buckaineer]

Only hated Holgorsen his final year as he was nothing but a coke head and drunk.

I have posted links when I stood up for him. Of course you were probably using one of your other profiles then.

Put me on ignore dip ****.

You haven't posted **** BUT ****. You just lied about him AGAIN while LIBELING him. All the while as usual whining about someone stating the fact that its all you do and have been doing for YEARS.

There's no need for that lying, libeling bullsh!t. His record STANDS--second winningest coach ever for the Mountaineers--FAAAR and away more successful than your lover boy BROWN who you claimed was soooooooooooooooooooo superior and could come in and immediately do better over and over and over. And now that your boy Brown is failing so miserably you are trying to hide that you worked night and day to trash the previous coach and staff while you ignore the far worse failings of the present millionaire?

After YEARS of your trolling bullsh!t you want to cry "who me"? and pretend you never wrote all the vile, anti WVU crap you revel in with your sick trolling mind? Every post you make is a worthless pile of steaming crap with your endless nonstop trolling of WVU athletics and support of anything and everything that brings WVU down.

Leave the f'ing board--everytime, anytime others post--there you are TROLLING. You obviously hate WVU and want WVU to FAIL.

 

[WVUALLEN]

You haven't posted **** BUT ****. You just lied about him AGAIN while LIBELING him. All the while as usual whining about someone stating the fact that its all you do and have been doing for YEARS.

There's no need for that lying, libeling bullsh!t. His record STANDS--second winningest coach ever for the Mountaineers--FAAAR and away more successful than your lover boy BROWN who you claimed was soooooooooooooooooooo superior and could come in and immediately do better over and over and over. And now that your boy Brown is failing so miserably you are trying to hide that you worked night and day to trash the previous coach and staff while you ignore the far worse failings of the present millionaire?

After YEARS of your trolling bullsh!t you want to cry "who me"? and pretend you never wrote all the vile, anti WVU crap you revel in with your sick trolling mind? Every post you make is a worthless pile of steaming crap with your endless nonstop trolling of WVU athletics and support of anything and everything that brings WVU down.

Leave the f'ing board--everytime, anytime others post--there you are TROLLING. You obviously hate WVU and want WVU to FAIL.

Rootmaster pick a profile.

 

[Buckaineer]

Its really a sad comparison when you look at it

Kragthorpe record in three years:

6-6
5-7
4-8

Brown

5-7
6-4
2-4 (so far but even reaching 4-8 will be a challenge this year)

Kragthorpe FIRED

Brown-Extended!?

 

[Butler-eer]

Brown has done a lot to position this program to compete with the big boys in the new way that football programs are being built. More analytics. More support staff.
What he hasn't done is bring in support coaches that can get the job done. All of his buddies from the past have been brought in and it just isn't working. Parker, Moore and Regan need to be replaced. I would keep all the rest. Except for this past game the D has been far superior.

Next is we need to take a much harder look at Recruiting. Bringing in mostly HS kids and trying to develop them over 3 or 4 years is good, but not the final answer. We need some JC's and Portals that can come in and support our skill positions immediately. Some transfers that can be either starters or immediate help on the 2 deep at many other positions. We have 32 slots available for next year. Currently our class is ranked #24. Almost the highest it's been since RR took over. Let's see how this pans out.

But the biggest thing is if NB doesn't make immediate changes in the coaching staff he should be held accountable if next year turns out to be the same as this.

 

[Buckaineer]

Brown has done a lot to position this program to compete with the big boys in the new way that football programs are being built. More analytics. More support staff.
What he hasn't done is bring in support coaches that can get the job done. All of his buddies from the past have been brought in and it just isn't working. Parker, Moore and Regan need to be replaced. I would keep all the rest. Except for this past game the D has been far superior.

Next is we need to take a much harder look at Recruiting. Bringing in mostly HS kids and trying to develop them over 3 or 4 years is good, but not the final answer. We need some JC's and Portals that can come in and support our skill positions immediately. Some transfers that can be either starters or immediate help on the 2 deep at many other positions. We have 32 slots available for next year. Currently our class is ranked #24. Almost the highest it's been since RR took over. Let's see how this pans out.

But the biggest thing is if NB doesn't make immediate changes in the coaching staff he should be held accountable if next year turns out to be the same as this.

I'm not seeing that he has done anything "to position this program to compete with the big boys".

Not sure what that means. The "analytics" aren't producing wins.

In the end its about coaching and the players you bring in and so far its a failing grade on both.

 

[Butler-eer]

I'm not seeing that he has done anything "to position this program to compete with the big boys".

Not sure what that means. The "analytics" aren't producing wins.

In the end its about coaching and the players you bring in and so far its a failing grade on both.

this class is rated #24 so far with only 17 committed. We have 15 more slots to fill. This so far ties the best class we signed since 2001. We've had only 2 classes in the 20's. Both #24. '07 and '09. Almost half of the other classes have been in the 30's. 9 of 21 classes since '01 worse than #40. Let's see where this finally ends up.

In this day and age if you aren't using analytics to build your program and put game plans together you are behind all of the better programs. Let's not even get into why programs are looking into analytics and developing strategies based on those numbers. That would be a losing proposition on your part.

But I do agree about coaching. This is the biggest hurdle. Not only having coaches that know how to develop players, but coaches that know how to recruit.

 

[Buckaineer]

this class is rated #24 so far with only 17 committed. We have 15 more slots to fill. This so far ties the best class we signed since 2001. We've had only 2 classes in the 20's. Both #24. '07 and '09. Almost half of the other classes have been in the 30's. 9 of 21 classes since '01 worse than #40. Let's see where this finally ends up.

In this day and age if you aren't using analytics to build your program and put game plans together you are behind all of the better programs. Let's not even get into why programs are looking into analytics and developing strategies based on those numbers. That would be a losing proposition on your part.

But I do agree about coaching. This is the biggest hurdle. Not only having coaches that know how to develop players, but coaches that know how to recruit.

Like the class so far and hope they all come--but that's years from now before they'd have an impact, especially the way Brown refuses to sit players not performing and play others to get experience and see what they will do in game action.

On analytics, I don't believe its a new thing. Brown isn't the first WVU coach to use analytics in playcalling. Don't know what analytics he is using but whatever they are they are not winning any games for WVU and that is a major problem. They should be a guide not written in stone obviously. Brown has made poor in game decisions for three years.

On coaches, yes--also important to have coaches that know how to coach and adjust in game.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

bump

 

[WVUFanForever]

The best thing about WVU wins...bucky, root and other haters go away for a while.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

The best thing about WVU wins...bucky, root and other haters go away for a while.

Its to bad they can't take Greg Jacobs with them

 

[SeronimusPratt]

Its to bad they can't take Greg Jacobs with them

Greg ain’t leaving. There’s three waiting to see who can get the drippings

 

[Buckaineer]

How's the Kragthorpe comparison looking at this juncture with two games left?

Kragthorpe at Louisville. Terminated after 3 years by Louisville.

YEAR	SCHOOL	Overall	Conference	RANK in Conf.
2007	Louisville	6–6	3–4	T–5th
2008	Louisville	5–7	1–6	8th
2009	Louisville	4–8	1–6	7th
SCHOOL	Overall	Conf record
Louisville:		15–21	5–16

[TR]

[/TR]

[TR]



And here is Brown so far for WVU--(extended by AD Lyons 2 years through 2026?)

YEAR	SCHOOL	Overall	Conference	RANK in Conf.
2019	West Virginia	5–7	3–6	T–7th
2020	West Virginia	6–4	4–4	5th
2021	West Virginia	4–6	2-5	8th
SCHOOL	Overall	Conf record
West Virginia:		15–17	9-15

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[WVUALLEN]

Clueless. You have no idea Brown will be here no less than 5 years.

You might want to go buy those Houston jerseys now while they're cheap.

 

[Buckaineer]

Clueless=those trying to sell that 5 win and less seasons are somehow better than the average of 8 wins per season the previous staff had delivered for the five years leading up to the current debacle they helped bring upon WVU football.

Saying that the debacle will continue 5 years doesn't change the lie that "anyone can step in and immediately do better", now does it? How's that schtick working out for WVU football?

 

[WVUALLEN]

Clueless=those trying to sell that 5 win and less seasons are somehow better than the average of 8 wins per season the previous staff had delivered for the five years leading up to the current debacle they helped bring upon WVU football.

Saying that the debacle will continue 5 years doesn't change the lie that "anyone can step in and immediately do better", now does it? How's that Schtick working out for WVU football?

Didn't sell anything. Everyone knows you're clueless and a multi.

 

[Buckaineer]

Another clueless trait--trying to change the subject/derail a thread when they can't/won't answer for their constant drumbeat of chasing out a coach averaging 8 wins per season in favor of one barely producing 5 wins per season--including games against FCS squads (can't include Kansas anymore cause if they play against this coach like they did against Texas, WVU may get routed by them).

Why is someone that has willingly, intentionally pushed WVU to the depths it is now experiencing still running their mouth as though anything they contribute means anything to anyone else?

The numbers above are FACTS that paint a not too rosy look at what WVU football has in store now for maybe years to come.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

DH is 8-1 and Houston is ranked 17th in the country....

People don't want to admit it but he was/is a quality coach. Not an elite coach but one that basically always gives your team a chance...

Also when the talent was equal, DH did pretty well...just couldn't get by the higher talent teams

 

[Buckaineer]

DH is 8-1 and Houston is ranked 17th in the country....

People don't want to admit it but he was/is a quality coach. Not an elite coach but one that basically always gives your team a chance...

Also when the talent was equal, DH did pretty well...just couldn't get by the higher talent teams

DH had IMPROVED WVUs situation--that's what was important. By his final year WVU was mere pts from playing for a BIG IIX CCG. and for five years running had WVU averaging 8 wins per--something not many coaches have done at WVU (had one of the few 10 win season during that stretch too.) He beat every school in the league including more talented ones like Texas and even OK State --just couldn't get by OU even though there were some very close games.

Now because their boy Brown has failed so miserably, the haters are STILL trying to excuse away the lack of coaching at WVU now on the previous staff which did prove itself with the second most wins ever at WVU. Shame.

Regardless the current guy hasn't gotten it done and has shown no improvement in any category. Only question is how long will the slide continue before change is made.

As I expected this slide came at the worst possible time for WVU--right as realignment reared its ugly head again.

 

[westsiderSJHS77]

So if Holgersen was still at WVU, What conference would the University be in right now?

The SEC would of taken WVU snd Oklahoma?

The ACC, Big 10 and PAC12 did not add anyone. So what damage did Brown do to the program as it relates to re-alignment?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

DH is 8-1 and Houston is ranked 17th in the country....

People don't want to admit it but he was/is a quality coach. Not an elite coach but one that basically always gives your team a chance...

Also when the talent was equal, DH did pretty well...just couldn't get by the higher talent teams

Most of the teams in the big 12 would stomp Houston. There 8-1 because of that weak *** schedule they play. Texas Tech stomped them. Holgorsen didn't give wvu a chance at anything the loser only beat 2 teams that finished in the top 25 his final 5 years nothing great about that.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Another clueless trait--trying to change the subject/derail a thread when they can't/won't answer for their constant drumbeat of chasing out a coach averaging 8 wins per season in favor of one barely producing 5 wins per season--including games against FCS squads (can't include Kansas anymore cause if they play against this coach like they did against Texas, WVU may get routed by them).

Why is someone that has willingly, intentionally pushed WVU to the depths it is now experiencing still running their mouth as though anything they contribute means anything to anyone else?

The numbers above are FACTS that paint a not too rosy look at what WVU football has in store now for maybe years to come.

Haven't changed I know you're wrong. It's your MO CFE.

 

[WVUALLEN]

DH is 8-1 and Houston is ranked 17th in the country....

People don't want to admit it but he was/is a quality coach. Not an elite coach but one that basically always gives your team a chance...

Also when the talent was equal, DH did pretty well...just couldn't get by the higher talent teams

What would Houston record be in Big 12 this year? 4-5 at best.

 

[WVUALLEN]

So if Holgersen was still at WVU, What conference would the University be in right now?

The SEC would of taken WVU snd Oklahoma?

The ACC, Big 10 and PAC12 did not add anyone. So what damage did Brown do to the program as it relates to re-alignment?

You can't debate with the ignorant. Just have to overlook those like bucky.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

What would Houston record be in Big 12 this year? 4-5 at best.

Over half the teams in the big 12 would probably be undefeated playing that ***** *** schedule Houston plays. Texas Tech stomped Houston

 

[WVUALLEN]

Over half the teams in the big 12 would probably be undefeated playing that ***** *** schedule Houston plays. Texas Tech stomped Houston

They also beat WVU.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

They also beat WVU.

It would be wvu's only loss playing Houston's schedule

 

[WVUALLEN]

I don't have a "boyfriend", only discuss fact--but your boyfriend is taking WVU football down the toilet. Why are you still pretending he is some great coach? -obviously no WVU fan would but you've been trolling WVU sports for years so everyone knows that seeing a successful WVU football program is not a part of your trolling ways. The reverse is true.

The last coach here, one that you spent day and night for a decade pissing on, won more games for WVU than everyone but Nehlen, but against the toughest schedules. His last four years he averaged way above the WVU norm at 8.25 wins per year and over the last five an even 8. Even at his worst he only won less than 7 games one time, his only losing season.

Your boy toy has had two consecutive five win losing regular seasons and won't likely reach that this year, has shown poor judgement, poor play calling, lack of offense, inability to develop or recruit a sound QB, etc. etc. etc. and his best talent on the field is from the previous staffs recruiting efforts.

Its a fair evaluation to compare him to a coach that nearly wrecked what Louisville had built back then--especially going into another major realignment period as WVU is facing.

CFE you can't do comparison coaching. Please leave the board with the rest of the village idiot's.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Most of the teams in the big 12 would stomp Houston. There 8-1 because of that weak *** schedule they play. Texas Tech stomped them. Holgorsen didn't give wvu a chance at anything the loser only beat 2 teams that finished in the top 25 his final 5 years nothing great about that.

Most of the teams in the B12 would stomp WVU...and have been.

DH is winning the games on this schedule. Thats his job.

 

[WVUALLEN]

3 losses in final seconds.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Most of the teams in the B12 would stomp WVU...and have been.

DH is winning the games on this schedule. Thats his job.

Houston is looking for fans. Go join them.

Any coach in America would be winning with that schecule.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Houston is looking for fans. Go join them.

Any coach in America would be winning with that schecule.

I already have...Go Coogs!