KYPSW 2023-24

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The contest has three components: the dual season, B1G and NCAAs, with a corresponding increase in points. There is a podium for each of the individual parts, and then one Grand Champion walks away with the bragging rights that come along with winning a contest that takes place on an obscure sports message board. That, plus amazing prizes, which are still in the mail from all previous years. I know we have former winners who still go to the mailbox every day, anticipating their just rewards. I still don’t understand how the post office continues to lose those year after year.

Due to the long season, about 65 people usually start out in the first dual, but by the end, only 35, or so, have actually competed in all of the duals. Hopefully, you’ve all been working on your conditioning, and are ready to get after it.

Now, without further ado...

Here are the rules for the KYPSW Dual Season portion.

· Prior to each dual meet (usually by Wed night), I (or one of my able assistants) will post the expected PSU lineup*.

· Prior to the start of a dual, each participant in our competition posts his/her predicted winner and type of victory (dec, major, tech, or fall) for each match in the dual. Injury defaults or DQs count as falls. For each match prediction, you get 2 points for calling the correct winner, plus 1 bonus point for calling the correct type of victory. No points are awarded unless you call the correct winner.

· Predictions for each event must be posted in the KYPSW thread on whichever board you choose (and posted prior to the start of the event) to count for point-scoring. Please only post predictions on one board, PARTICULARLY if you have different names on each board.

· When the posted lineups suggest multiple possible matchups in a weight class and a member posts picks for only a subset of those possible matchups, no points will be awarded to said member for the weight class if the pick fails to include the matchup that ultimately takes place.

· When a PSU opponent forfeits a weight-class during a Dual, every FOS participant in that event will be awarded full point-value for the match (2 pts) and bonus (1 pt) [total = 3 pts]. This applies only to Forfeits where the opponent does not step onto the mat -- Injury Defaults and Disqualifications are not considered Forfeits (they will be counted as Falls, as noted in original text above).

· I will compile and score results, posting weekly updates.

· Highest scorer at season's end** is awarded bragging rights for being the FOS/BWI/ON3 Dual Season Champion.

* The lineup will not always be certain; when things look iffy, I will try to post multiple wrestlers at a given weight class, and participants should post their predictions for each wrestler. Generally, I will try to base the lineup on what is presented in the "Match Notes" published by PSU several days prior to the event.
** Tiebreaker Criteria -- Criterion 1: most correct picks; Criterion 2: most correct win types; Criterion 3: most FOS OR BWI posts.***
 
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#1 PENN STATE NITTANY LIONS (0-0, 0-0 B1G)
125 Robert Howard So. Cranford, N.J./Bergen Catholic 3-4
Gary Steen So. Hermitage, Pa./Reynolds 6-2
Braeden Davis Fr. Belleville, Mich./Dundee 7-0
133 #3 Aaron Nagao So. La Habra, Calif./Esperanza 4-0
141 #2 Beau Bartlett Sr. Tempe, Ariz./Wyoming Seminary (Pa.) 7-0
149 #2 Shayne Van Ness So. Somerville, N.J./Blair Academy 3-0
157 #1 Levi Haines So. Arendtsville, Pa./Biglerville 3-0
165 #16 Mitchell Mesenbrink Fr. Hartland, Wis./Arrowhead 7-0
174 #1 Carter Starocci Sr. Erie, Pa./Cathedral Prep 3-0
184 #2 Bernie Truax Gr. Oceanside, Calif./Rancho Buena Vista 3-0
197 #1 Aaron Brooks Sr.+ Hagerstown, Md./North Hagerstown 3-0
285 #1 Greg Kerkvliet Sr. Inver Grove Heights, Minn./Simley 3-0

#20 LEHIGH MOUNTAIN HAWKS (0-1)
125 #33 Luke Stanich Fr. Roxbury, N.J./Roxbury 5-0
133 #5 Ryan Crookham Fr. Hellertown, Pa./Saucon Valley 7-0
Connor McGonagle Jr. Danville, N.H./Timberlane 2-0
141 #10 Malyke Hines Jr. Kissimmee, Fla./Osceola 7-1
149 Matt Repos Fr. Palmyra, Pa./Central Dauphin 3-3
157 #24 Max Brignola Jr. Fair Haven, N.J./Rumson-Fair Haven 6-1
165 #32 Jake Logan Jr. New Rochelle, N.Y./New Rochelle 6-2
174 Thayne Lawrence So. Perryopolis, Pa./Frazier 2-3
184 Caden Rogers Fr. Lancaster, Pa./Malvern Prep 4-2
197 #10 Michael Beard Jr. Reading, Pa./Malvern Prep 7-1
285 #`12 Nathan Taylor So. Brookville, Pa./Brookville 7-2
 
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Lehigh

125 Davis Dec, Stanich Dec Howard, Stanich Dec Steen
133 Nagao Dec McGonagle, Nagao Dec Crookham
141 Bartlett Dec
149 Van Ness TF
157 Haines MD
165 Mesenbrink TF or Brignola Dec Pierce or MD Other PSU
174 Starocci TF
184 Truax MD
197 Brooks MD
285 Kerkvliet MD
 
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cb1994

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Alright redoing this in light of Lehigh’s Match Notes:

Lehigh Prediction:
125:
Stanich: Davis W-decision, Howard L-decision, Steen L-major
Seymour: Davis W-major, Howard W-decision, Steen L-decision
133: Nagao win by decision v Crookham, win by major v McGonagle
141: Bartlett win by decision v Hines, win by major v Bailey
149: Van Ness win by TF
157: Haines win by decision, Mesenbrink win by decision, unnamed 157 lose by decision
165: Mesenbrink win by major, bear claws win by decision, unnamed lose by decision
174: Starocci win by fall
184: Truax win by major v Rogers or Wilt
197: Brooks win by decision
HWT: Kerk win by TF
 
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Everyone should put a pick in for other PSU at 157, since we're unsure of Levi's status.

I thought that if PSU or the opposing team sent out a wrestler that was not listed in the Match Notes, that everyone got the same score for the match. I believe there were exceptions if we knew well enough in advance that someone might not be going for either team, and had time to adjust our picks. Perhaps that's what you're doing here; just trying to clarify.
 

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LEHIGH

125 Davis Dec Stanich or Stanich Dec Howard or Steen
133 Crookham Dec Nagao or Nagao Dec McGonagle
141 Bartlett Dec Malyke
149 Van Ness Fall Repos
157 Haines MDec Brignola or Brignola Dec Pierce or MDec Other PSU
165 Messenbrink TF Logan
174 Starocci TF Lawrence
184 Truax MDec Rogers
197 Brooks MDec Beard
285 Kerkvliet MDec Taylor
 

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125 Davis Dec Stanich or Stanich MD Howard or Steen; Davis Dec Seymore or Seymore Dec Howard or Steen
133 Nagao Dec Crookham or MD McGonagle
141 Bartlett Dec Hines
149 Van Ness TF Repos
157 Haines MD Brignola or Brignola Dec other PSU
165 Messenbrink MD Logan
174 Starocci Fall Lawrence
184 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD Beard
285 Kerkvliet Fall Taylor
 
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WV lion

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Can't we just go by psu or lehigh's match notes to make it simple, and throw any differences out?
 
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Lehigh

125
: Stanich (LEH) DEC over Howard (PSU); Stanich (LEH) DEC over Steen (PSU); Davis (PSU) DEC over Stanich (LEH)
133: Nagao (PSU) DEC over Crookham (LEH); Nagao (PSU) DEC over McGonagle (LEH)
141: Bartlett (PSU) DEC over Hines (LEH)
149: Van Ness (PSU) TF over Repos (LEH)
157: Haines (PSU) DEC over Brignola (LEH); Brignola (LEH) DEC Other (PSU)
165: Mesenbrink (PSU) MAJ over Logan (LEH)
174: Starocci (PSU) MAJ over Lawrence (LEH)
184: Truax (PSU) MAJ over Rogers (LEH)
197: Brooks (PSU) DEC over Beard (LEH)
285: Kerkvliet (PSU) DEC over Taylor (LEH)
 

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125 Davis dec, Howard dec, Steen loss dec
133 cookham dec Nagao, nagao dec McGonagle
141 Bartlett MD Hines
149 Van Ness fall repos
157 Haines TF brignola, otherwise brignola by dec
165 Mesenbrink TF Logan
175 Starocci fall Lawrence
185 Truax MD Rogers
197 Brooks MD beards
285 Kerkvliet dec taylor
 

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125 Davis decision, Howard decision
133 Nagao decision either
141 Bartlett decision
149 Van Ness Fall
157 Haines Tech Fall
165 Messenbrink Tech Fall
174 Starocci Tech Fall
184 Truax Major
197 Brooks Major
285 Kerk Major
 

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Lehigh Match

125
: Stanich (LEH) DEC over Howard or Steen; Davis (PSU) DEC over Stanich (LEH)
133: Crookham DEC over Nagao; Nagao DEC over McGonagle
141: Bartlett (PSU) DEC over Hines (LEH)
149: Van Ness (PSU) TF over Repos (LEH)
157: Haines (PSU) Major DEC over Brignola (LEH); Brignola (LEH) DEC Other (PSU)
165: Mesenbrink (PSU) MAJ over Logan (LEH)
174: Starocci (PSU) Fall over Lawrence (LEH)
184: Truax (PSU) MAJ over Rogers (LEH)
197: Brooks (PSU) DEC over Beard (LEH)
285: Kerkvliet (PSU) Major DEC over Taylor (LEH)
 

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Can't we just go by psu or lehigh's match notes to make it simple, and throw any differences out?
I like to have as many matches included as possible. There have been matches in the past where we were down to a possible 15 or 18 points due to changes. So, where we can I'm going to try to increase the chances of including a match.
 
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I thought that if PSU or the opposing team sent out a wrestler that was not listed in the Match Notes, that everyone got the same score for the match. I believe there were exceptions if we knew well enough in advance that someone might not be going for either team, and had time to adjust our picks. Perhaps that's what you're doing here; just trying to clarify.
That's what I'm trying to do here. Notice the first addendum in the rules. We went from that to just match notes, so I'm trying to go back to that.

The last couple of years was:
Listed PSU doesn't go, it's thrown out.
Listed opponent doesn't go, but everyone picks PSU unanimously, everyone got two.
 

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Lehigh

Not sure if this will count, no worries if not. 133 starting as I post

133: Nagao DEC over Crookham
141: Bartlett DEC over Hines
149: Van Ness MD over Repos
157: Haines MD over Brignola, Brignola DEC over other PSU
165: Mesenbrink DEC over Logan
174: Starocci Fall over Lawrence
184: Truax MD over Rogers
197: Brooks DEC over Beard
285: Kerkvliet MD over Taylor
 
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#1 PENN STATE NITTANY LIONS (1-0, 0-0 B1G)

125 Robert Howard So. Cranford, N.J./Bergen Catholic 3-4
Gary Steen So. Hermitage, Pa./Reynolds 6-3
Braeden Davis Fr. Belleville, Mich./Dundee 7-0
133 #4 Aaron Nagao So. La Habra, Calif./Esperanza 4-1
141 #2 Beau Bartlett Sr. Tempe, Ariz./Wyoming Seminary (Pa.) 8-0
149 Tyler Kasak Fr. Doylestown, Pa./Bethlehem Catholic 4-1
157 #1 Levi Haines So. Arendtsville, Pa./Biglerville 4-0
165 #14 Mitchell Mesenbrink Fr. Hartland, Wis./Arrowhead 8-0
174 #1 Carter Starocci Sr. Erie, Pa./Cathedral Prep 4-0
184 #2 Bernie Truax Gr. Oceanside, Calif./Rancho Buena Vista 4-0
197 #1 Aaron Brooks Sr.+ Hagerstown, Md./North Hagerstown 3-0
285 #1 Greg Kerkvliet Sr. Inver Grove Heights, Minn./Simley 4-0

HOFSTRA PRIDE (0-1)

125 Dylan Ryder Sr. Dix Hills, N.Y./Half Hollow Hills West 3-4
133 Dylan Acevedo Jr. Sayreville, N.J./Sayreville 0-4
Ryan Arbeit Fr. Wantagh, N.Y./Wantagh 0-3
141 Alex Turley So. St. Louis, Mo./Webster Groves 2-6
149 Noah Tapia Fr. Moline, Ill./Moline 3-7
157 Frank Volpe Fr. Hauppauge, N.Y./Hauppauge 0-3
165 Joe McGinty Sr. Monroe, N.Y./Monroe-Woodbury 4-4
Matt Rogers Jr. Wantagh, N.Y./Wantagh 0-1
174 Ross McFarland Jr. Pennellville, N.Y./Massapequa 3-4
184 Will Conlon Fr. Hoover, Ala./Spain Park 3-6
197 Nikolas Miller Jr. Lock Haven, Pa./Central Mountain 2-4
285 #21 Keaton Kluever Gr. Kaukauna, Wis./Kaukauna 3-1
 
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Hofstra

125 Davis Dec, Ryder Dec Howard, Steen Dec Ryder
133 Nagao TF
141 Bartlett TF
149 Kasak Dec
157 Haines Fall
165 Mesenbrink TF
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax TF
197 Brooks Fall
285 Kerkvliet Fall
 

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Any chance psu lineup looks anywhere near this?

you never know. With that said, at his media availability on Tuesday, CS indicated there was a good chance Brooks would go on Sunday, and also indicated that Howard was unlikely.
 

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125 Davis Tech Steen Dec
133 Nagao Tech
141 Bartlett Tech
149 Kasak Major
157. Haines Fall
165 Mesenbrink Tech
174 Starocci Fall
184 Truax Tech
197 Brooks Fall
285 Kerk Fall
 

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Oh, boy, scoring Lehigh was a barrel of laughs.

125 Tossed. Seymour in place of Stanich + Steen lost anyway.
141 All get two. Bartlett unanimous, Bailey in place of Hines.
149 Tossed. Kasak in place of Van Ness.
184 All get two. Truax unanimous, Wilt in place of Rogers.
197 Tossed. Cochran in place of Brooks.

So, I think that makes this week out of a possible 19. @GogglesPaizano comes oh-so-close with an 18.

If ever there was a week to check for mistakes, this is it. Please let me know if you find any, but be gentle.

 
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Hofstra
125 Davis tech, Steen MD, Howard dec
133 Nagao fall either
141 Bartlett fall
149 Kasak MD
157 Haines fall
165 mesenbrink TF either
174 Starocci TF
184 Truax TF
197 Brooks fall
285 kerk TF
 
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Hofstra

125 Davis Dec Ryder or Ryder Dec Howard or Steen
133 Nagao TF Acevedo or Arbeit
141 Bartlett Fall Turley
149 Kasak Dec Tapia
157 Haines TF Volpe
165 Messenbrink TF McGinty or Rogers
174 Starocci Fall McFarland
184 Truax TF Conlon
197 Brooks TF Miller
285 Kerkvliet Fall Kluever
 

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Hofstra

125 Davis Dec Ryder or Ryder Dec Howard or Steen
133 Nagao TF Acevedo or Arbeit
141 Bartlett Fall Turley
149 Kasak MD Tapia
157 Haines Fall Volpe
165 Messenbrink TF McGinty or Fall Rogers
174 Starocci Fall McFarland
184 Truax TF Conlon
197 Brooks Fall Miller
285 Kerkvliet Fall Kluever
 

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Hofstra

125 Davis MD, Howard Dec, Ryder Dec Steen
133 Nagao MD Acevedo, TF Arbeit
141 Bartlett Fall
149 Kasak Dec
157 Haines Fall
165 Mesenbrink MD McGinty, TF Rogers
174 Starocci TF
184 Truax MD
197 Brooks Fall
285 Kerkvliet TF
 

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HOFSTRA

125: Davis MD Ryder, Howard DEC Ryder, Ryder DEC Steen
133: Nago TF Acevedo or Arbeit
141: Bartlett WBF Turley
149: Kasak MD Tapia
157: Haines WBF Folpe
165: Mesenbrink TF McGinty or Rogers
174: Carter WBF McFarland
184: Truax TF Conlon
197: Brooks WBF Miller, Cochran Dec Miller
HWT: Kerk WBF Kluever
 

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Hofstra

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: Howard (PSU) DEC over Ryder (HOF); Ryder (HOF) DEC over Steen (PSU); Davis (PSU) DEC over Ryder (HOF)
133: Nagao (PSU) TF over Arbeit (HOF); Nagano (PSU) PIN over Acevedo (HOF)
141: Bartlett (PSU) TF over Turley (HOF)
149: Kasak (PSU) DEC over Tapia (HOF)
157: Haines (PSU) PIN over Volpe (HOF)
165: Mesenbrink (PSU) TF over McGinty (HOF); Mesenbrink (PSU) PIN over Rogers
174: Starocci (PSU) PIN over McFarland (HOF)
184: Trua (PSU) TF over Conton (HOF)
197: Brooks (PSU) TF over Miller (HOF)
285: Kerkvliet (PSU) MAJ over Kluever (HOF)
 

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Hofstra Match

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: Howard, Davis, Steen (PSU) DEC over Ryder (HOF)
133: Nagao (PSU) TF over Arbeit or Nagao Pin over Acevedo(HOF)
141: Bartlett (PSU) TF over Turley (HOF)
149: Kasak (PSU) DEC over Tapia (HOF)
157: Haines (PSU) PIN over Volpe (HOF)
165: Mesenbrink (PSU) TF over McGinty or Rogers(HOF)
174: Starocci (PSU) PIN over McFarland (HOF)
184: Truax (PSU) TF over Conton (HOF)
197: Brooks (PSU) TF over Miller (HOF)
285: Kerkvliet (PSU) MAJ over Kluever (HOF)
 

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Hofstra

125: Tossed. They sent Acevedo. One guy picked Hofstra.
133: Good.
141: Tossed. We sent Evans. Everybody picked Bartlett.
149: Tossed. We sent Pierce. Everybody picked Kasak.
157: They sent Zenion. Picks were unanimous for Haines. Everybody gets 2.
165: They sent Waddell. Picks were unanimous for Mesenbrink. Everybody gets 2.
174: They sent Shindel. Unanimous for Starocci. Everybody gets 2.
184: Good.
197: Good.
285: We sent Fricchione. Everybody picked Kerk. Tossed.

Best of 15, if my math is right. But, really, it's out of 9.

 
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#1 PENN STATE NITTANY LIONS (2-0, 0-0 B1G)
125 Braeden Davis Fr. Belleville, Mich./Dundee 8-0
133 #4 Aaron Nagao So. La Habra, Calif./Esperanza 5-1
141 #2 Beau Bartlett Sr. Tempe, Ariz./Wyoming Seminary (Pa.) 8-0
149 David Evans Jr. Tunkhannock, Pa./Tunkhannock 7-2
Tyler Kasak Fr. Doylestown, Pa./Bethlehem Catholic 4-1
157 #1 Levi Haines So. Arendtsville, Pa./Biglerville 5-0
165 #14 Mitchell Mesenbrink Fr. Hartland, Wis./Arrowhead 9-0
174 #1 Carter Starocci Sr. Erie, Pa./Cathedral Prep 5-0
184 #2 Bernie Truax Gr. Oceanside, Calif./Rancho Buena Vista 5-0
197 #1 Aaron Brooks Sr.+ Hagerstown, Md./North Hagerstown 4-0
285 #1 Greg Kerkvliet Sr. Inver Grove Heights, Minn./Simley 4-0

#18 OREGON STATE BEAVERS (4-1)
125 #13 Brandon Kaylor Sr. Bonney Lake, Wash./Bonney Lake 11-4
133 #25 Gabe Whisenhunt So. Corvallis, Ore./Crescent Valley 7-4
141 #23 Cleveland Belton Sr. Corona, Calif./St. John Bosco 9-5
149 #11 Nash Singleton So. Roseburg, Ore./Roseburg 6-4
157 Isaiah Crosby Gr. Miami, Fla./South Date 2-2
Murphy Menke So. Parker, Colo./Ponderosa 3-1
165 #12 Matthew Olguin Jr. Fresno, Calif./Buchanan 10-2
174 #8 Travis Wittlake Gr. Coos Bay, Ore./Marshfield 4-2
184 #6 Trey Munoz Jr. Mission Viejo, Calif./Trabuco Hills 11-2
197 #31 Justin Rademacher Fr. West Linn, Ore./West Linn 8-4
285 #12 Boone McDermott Sr. Dubuque, Iowa/Dubuque Wahlert 12-3
 

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Oregon State

125 Kaylor Dec Davis, MD Howard
133 Nagao Dec
141 Bartlett MD
149 Singleton Dec Kasak, MD Evans
157 Haines Fall
165 Mesenbrink Dec
174 Starocci Dec
184 Truax Dec
197 Brooks Fall
285 Kerkvliet MD
 

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Oregon state
125 kaylor dec
133 Nagao tf
141 Bartlett MD
149 singleton dec either
157 Haines fall
165 mesenbrink dec
174 Starocci MD
184 Truax dec
197 Brooks tf
285 kerk MD
 

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Oregon State

125 Kaylor dec Davis / MD Howard
133 Nagao dec Whisenhunt
141 Bartlett MD Belton
149 Singleton dec Kasak / MD Evans
157 Haines WBF Menke
165 Mesenbrink dec Olguin
174 Starocci dec Wittlake
184 Truax IV Dec Munoz
197 Brooks TF Rademacher
HWT Kerk MD McDermott
 

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Oregon State

125 Kaylor Dec Davis
133 Nagao Dec
141 Bartlett Dec
149 Kasak Dec, Singleton Dec Evans
157 Haines MD
165 Mesenbrink Dec
174 Starocci Dec
184 Truax Dec
197 Brooks TF
285 Kerkvliet TF