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Peytons number where in the SEC, Jacksons numbers are against below average trams minus 2. No comparison, give me manning, marino etc any day of the week. If he did this week in against tom 25 d's fine.
Everyone is going to have reasons for liking or disliking a player or team. I am fine with that. People can hate him because he is from Louisville, ACC, or any other reason. But he is the best player in college.


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Everyone is going to have reasons for liking or disliking a player or team. I am fine with that. People can hate him because he is from Louisville, ACC, or any other reason. But he is the best player in college.

On offense it is Lamar Jackson and on defense it is Michigan Jabrill Peppers.
 

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Everyone is going to have reasons for liking or disliking a player or team. I am fine with that. People can hate him because he is from Louisville, ACC, or any other reason. But he is the best player in college.


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He is the best? Says you. Watson was a Heisman finalist in '15 and beat Jackson head to head. Just a small, minor detail. An inconvenient truth as it were.
 

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Watson has the better team....right now in Vegas Jackson is the runaway favorite at 1/3 odds....meaning you have to bet $3 to wi $1. Unheard of
 

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I continue to be amazed at the UL toadies who come here seeking the approval of UK fans. Shows they're lacking their own little site to express their views.
You should be mad at the idiots who keep posting UL, Duke threads on our boards.........
 

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These are the defenses in the ACC and SEC in the top 50. You have 7 ACC and 5 SEC.

Rank Team G Plays YDS Yds/Play Off TDs Opp TDs YPG
8 Louisville 9 600 2638 4.4 24 26 293.1 ACC
12 Clemson 9 632 2816 4.46 16 17 312.9 ACC
15 Boston College 9 549 2903 5.29 31 32 322.6 ACC
17 Virginia Tech 9 613 2947 4.81 23 24 327.4 ACC
26 North Carolina St. 9 625 3226 5.16 24 24 358.4 ACC
28 Miami (FL) 9 664 3250 4.89 19 20 361.1 ACC
35 Wake Forest 9 631 3327 5.27 22 22 369.7 ACC
2 Alabama 9 571 2321 4.06 12 13 257.9 SEC
3 Florida 8 493 2145 4.35 13 14 268.1 SEC
13 LSU 8 553 2520 4.56 9 9 315 SEC
16 Georgia 9 566 2917 5.15 27 30 324.1 SEC
25 Auburn 9 637 3207 5.03 14 14 356.3 SEC

The best team Alabama plays only 2 of those teams. LSU will play 3. Florida gets 2. Georgia plays 2. And Auburn plays 3.
Louisville plays 4. Clemson plays 4, Boston College plays 5, Virginia Tech (1), NC St (5), Miami (2), Wake Forest (4).
 

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They won by 4 points two years ago with Bolin. Cleary you are a jackass
I case you cant quite figure it out...anything more than a 1 point is a waste. To help you out UL won by 3 more points than they needed...you see 4 minus 3 is 1...that all they needed...go BBN!
 

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From what I understand your opponent and your opponent opponent...that and performance...actually found it through Jason S...pretty informative and to myself more accurate
This is a thread about how awesome Jackson, PE.
from UK fans no less. Dont let it get derailed.:flushed:
 
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This is a thread about how awesome Jackson, PE.
from UK fans no less. Dont let it get derailed.:flushed:
 

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So he had a great game against the one legit team UL has played (they lost) that doesn't prove greatness, 2 points.
1 if he's great what was peyton manning, John Elway and Dan Marino.

Old men who were formerly hall of fame caliber football players who we have the benefit of knowing how good they were from the ages of 20 to when they retired from the NFL. Lamar Jackson is 19 years old. We presently know what happens in only about 56% of his college career, and 0% of his pro career.


2. If he's great why is he at UL and not a big time program in an big time league?

He was a rivals 4-star 5.8-rated player as a dual threat quarterback. Everybody except Louisville recognized that he was so fast and so elusive that they wanted him as an athlete - most likely a wide receiver. That's what Florida State's Jimbo Fisher said before the Louisville-FSU game in 2015 - he already had Deondre Francois and another 5-star QB committed in Jackson's class.

Two weeks before signing day, new head coach Jim McElwain of Florida offered him a scholarship as a quarterback, and he seriously considered it. His mother told him to honor his commitment to Louisville instead of backing out late in the process. Louisville had already succeeded in making Teddy Bridgewater an NFL draft pick, and Petrino has a reputation as a quarterback guru - both of those things helped, as did Louisville's membership in the ACC.
 

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From what I understand your opponent and your opponent opponent...that and performance...actually found it through Jason S...pretty informative and to myself more accurate
My point, which was not made very well, is who determines how strong a schedule is. It all goes back to some measure of an initial biased ranking.
The #1 SOS is based on someone saying the teams being played are of some value.
 

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Yeah, what has he done lately?

That's my point. I was replying to a poster that said Lamar Jackson isn't that good or better schools would have recruited him (which they did). I think that's a silly argument. Jerry Rice wasn't even D1 so is he all of a sudden not that good?
 

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My point, which was not made very well, is who determines how strong a schedule is. It all goes back to some measure of an initial biased ranking.
The #1 SOS is based on someone saying the teams being played are of some value.

Jeff Sagarin used to have an explanation for how he derived his rankings in which he explained that his rankings did initially start with a biased set of rankings, but that the rankings became unbiased after five or six weeks of the season have been completed. He went on to explain that once all of the teams were "connected", that the initial rankings could be removed.

By "connected", he meant that (for example) Louisville is connected to Kentucky at least once by this point in the year. While we do not have any common opponents, we do each have opponents who have played each other: just this past week Charlotte (which played UofL) played Southern Miss (which played UK), so that's one connection in our opponent's opponents. Another is Marshall who lost to both Louisville and Southern Miss. At this point in the season, there are quite a few other "connections", most requiring more steps to connect to UofL and UK - and it is these connections which are used to replace the initially biased rankings.
 
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That's my point. I was replying to a poster that said Lamar Jackson isn't that good or better schools would have recruited him (which they did). I think that's a silly argument. Jerry Rice wasn't even D1 so is he all of a sudden not that good?
So Lamont wins the Heisman ..big deal..then Little Brother gets bumped from the CFP.. the ultimate ***** slap..That is the cherry on the sundae..
 

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So Lamont wins the Heisman ..big deal..then Little Brother gets bumped from the CFP.. the ultimate ***** slap..That is the cherry on the sundae..
So now having a player win the Heisman is no big deal ? Do you not realize how much something like that can help with recruiting ? As far as getting bounced from the CFP, well UofL isn't currently in the Top 4 so not sure how they get bounced from it. Even if Lamar doesn't win the Heisman or UofL doesn't make the CFP there is no denying the school has been heavily mentioned in both all season long which again can help in recruiting. Plus as of right now it looks like at worst UofL will be in a New Years 6 Bowl more likely the Orange Bowl.
 

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So Lamont wins the Heisman ..big deal..then Little Brother gets bumped from the CFP.. the ultimate ***** slap..That is the cherry on the sundae..

By the way you show your level of maturity by not calling the kid by his actually name. Pitino and Petrino have made their mistakes and are fair game. However Lamar has only been an outstanding player and deserves to be called by his given name.
 

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So now having a player win the Heisman is no big deal ? Do you not realize how much something like that can help with recruiting ? As far as getting bounced from the CFP, well UofL isn't currently in the Top 4 so not sure how they get bounced from it. Even if Lamar doesn't win the Heisman or UofL doesn't make the CFP there is no denying the school has been heavily mentioned in both all season long which again can help in recruiting. Plus as of right now it looks like at worst UofL will be in a New Years 6 Bowl more likely the Orange Bowl.
it will devastate uavel fans..as for Heisman that has rats *** to do with recruiting ..kids play for a coach not a statue that a school has Never won in 100 years.Nice Try Lamont came to uavel because of "other reasons" [eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll]...but that's for another investigation..
 

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By the way you show your level of maturity by not calling the kid by his actually name. Pitino and Petrino have made their mistakes and are fair game. However Lamar has only been an outstanding player and deserves to be called by his given name.
then take your drivel over to your web site with 79 posts...get it..:boxing::boxing:
 
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So now having a player win the Heisman is no big deal ? Do you not realize how much something like that can help with recruiting ? As far as getting bounced from the CFP, well UofL isn't currently in the Top 4 so not sure how they get bounced from it. Even if Lamar doesn't win the Heisman or UofL doesn't make the CFP there is no denying the school has been heavily mentioned in both all season long which again can help in recruiting. Plus as of right now it looks like at worst UofL will be in a New Years 6 Bowl more likely the Orange Bowl.

Actually worst case and that means utter collapse is the Citrus Bowl vs a SEC Opponent...but Right now the Projection is Orange Bowl vs. B1G-(Wisconsin or Penn State)
 

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it will devastate uavel fans..as for Heisman that has rats *** to do with recruiting ..kids play for a coach not a statue that a school has Never won in 100 years.Nice Try Lamont came to uavel because of "other reasons" [eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll]...but that's for another investigation..

Uh, before you throw something like that out without any basis you know who his Primary Recruiter was don't you....

As far as being devastated by not making the CFP....Didn't earn it....should have handled business at Clemson
 

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it will devastate uavel fans..as for Heisman that has rats *** to do with recruiting ..kids play for a coach not a statue that a school has Never won in 100 years.Nice Try Lamont came to uavel because of "other reasons" [eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll]...but that's for another investigation..
If you don't think that a QB looking at UofL wouldn't take a closer look at UofL if Lamar does win the Heisman, then you really are delusional.
 
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If you don't think that a QB looking at UofL wouldn't take a closer look at UofL if Lamar does win the Heisman, then you really are delusional.
can you say Clint $$$$$$$$ Hurt...ruh roh a Lil Brother living on a UK site is what I call delusional..
 

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can you say Clint $$$$$$$$ Hurt...ruh roh a Lil Brother living on a UK site is what I call delusional..
Hurtt had already left for the NFL and had nothing to do with Jackson. However there is a coach on UK's staff that was Jackson's main recruiter.
 

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Hurtt had already left for the NFL and had nothing to do with Jackson. However there is a coach on UK's staff that was Jackson's main recruiter.
So you are blaming the Coach who walked away from uavel..I'm sure the Clint paid off Teddy B and other Florida recruits to come to Little Brother..I made my point..
 

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I've been reading this board for years now. Didn't make an account until about a month ago. But I can say three things with certainty:

1. 2Adulterers is a well known "troll", and 99% of posters and readers of this forum would agree in saying that he is not a true fan.

2. All level-headed college football fans can agree that Lamar is at the forefront of the Heisman race and has done nothing to deserve scrutiny. He's 19 years old. Keep things in perspective.

3. Considering the kid's undeniable stature in the college football landscape and the fact that almost all posters on this board are aware of said stature, this thread should just die already.
 

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So you are blaming the Coach who walked away from uavel..I'm sure the Clint paid off Teddy B and other Florida recruits to come to Little Brother..I made my point..
No you didn't make a point you are just throwing crap against a wall and so far nothing has stuck. Don't you think that would have been uncovered over the last year that the NCAA was looking into the basketball program.
 

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No you didn't make a point you are just throwing crap against a wall and so far nothing has stuck. Don't you think that would have been uncovered over the last year that the NCAA was looking into the basketball program.
give the NCAA time so much illegal crap at Little Brother may take years to uncover it all now bye bye..tired of listening to your excuses
 

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the way I see it we got Benny Snell and Loserville don't. Bring em on! He has ran on every team so far.........even Alabama on their home field.
AFTER Snell gets done running throu em' BOOM will run by em.
 
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Jackson will win the Heisman and that gives UL an edge in the voting for the CFP. Everything else being equal or close to equal that will be the deciding factor. Most fans would love a UL at #4 facing Bama .. including me.
 

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the way I see it we got Benny Snell and Loserville don't. Bring em on! He has ran on every team so far.........even Alabama on their home field.
AFTER Snell gets done running throu em' BOOM will run by em.

Snell rushed for 38 yards against Bama so I don't think he really ran all over Bama. In fact U.K. Had 72 total rushing yards against Bama.
 

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His " greatness" is debatable as anybody breathing can be great against Charlotte, Marshall, Syracuse, B.C. and the like. If he did in the Big 10 or the SEC what he's done in the ACC then he would be great.
If he was our QB with our running backs then maybe we could hang with Bama & Florida.
 

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Wow, three pages of Lamar Jackson hate. Yeah, I hate the dude; he plays for Louisville. I hate Louisville. But, I cannot deny his game; he is great player, and I hope he does great things in the NFL (unless he plays for an AFC North team not named the Bengals.......until then, nah.
 
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Snell rushed for 38 yards against Bama so I don't think he really ran all over Bama. In fact U.K. Had 72 total rushing yards against Bama.
he ran 8 times for 42 yards. Thats over 5 yards a carry. They didnt use Snell in the game till the 2nd half. Had he been the feature back he wouldve ran on em even more
 

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he ran 8 times for 42 yards. Thats over 5 yards a carry. They didnt use Snell in the game till the 2nd half. Had he been the feature back he wouldve ran on em even more
Hey I was just going by the box score listed on ESPN. Also Snel running for more in that game if he had been used more can't really be proved or disproved cause it didn't happen. All I know is only 2 teams have rushed for over 100 yards vs Bama. Ole Miss 101 and Texas A&M 114 and the rest of the teams have been under 100.
 

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he ran 8 times for 42 yards. Thats over 5 yards a carry. They didnt use Snell in the game till the 2nd half. Had he been the feature back he wouldve ran on em even more

I like Snell and feel he is a good RB but you're saying that he would do something that Leonard Fournette could not do....ok...