It's a shame that he only played 1 year. He was a real talent. Ditto in regards to Kip Sixberry.
Landon got his fifth star congrats
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It's a shame that he only played 1 year. He was a real talent. Ditto in regards to Kip Sixberry.
LOL! Please don't suggest Aaron Miller's career benefitted by skipping his redshirt. Aaron was a 2 star prospect who started as a true freshman in 2004 only because we didn't have any other true tackles on our roster during the sanctions. Kentucky had a miserable 2-9 season, but Aaron played pretty well and then immediately flunked out of school during the spring semester. If Aaron had redshirted, he might have gotten his feet on the ground with college class work, and he might have lasted at Kentucky for more than 1 semester.
Yancey Reynolds was a 5 star recruit on Scout at the time he committed to Kentucky.
Ready or not Young is playing next year, really no point debating it. Is a freshman lineman ever really 'ready'? probably not, but nutrition and high school strength and conditioning programs are much better now than they were even 10 years ago so kids come in more prepared than ever. You see a lot more true freshman lineman playing now than ever before, like it or not get ready to see Young lineup at OT next season. If he reaches his potential he wont be around for a fifth year anyway, no need to hold him back.
^^^Bingo^^^, The all SEC Georgia d. end said Aaron Miller was the best tackle he faced all year! Can't think the name of Georgia d. end but remember he was a high draft choice I think by the Bengals. Pretty sure he does Pro commentary now.
I've seen a lot of true freshman o. linemen play in The SEC and Landon Young IMO is as good and better than most. If any one lives in Lexington area I urge you to go see Landon wrestle for Lafayette High! He stands out just like he stood out in the Army All American game!
I want the best OT on the field we have. So, if he RSs, I am fine. But, if he is the best, he should play.
I will answer your question with a question. How many five star OTs have we landed?
And, do Bama, UF, UM, OSU, or Auburn fans complain when their best OT is a five star Frosh?
Perception is a matter of importance in the recruiting game. True, he is what he is. Maybe, his IS a five star OT. Regardless, recruits see what is happening and perception of improved recruiting is more likely to make a recruit say "why not."
BTW, staying a four star or dropping to a three would not change whether he starts or plays next year. Ask Big George.
Redshirts do not make football players more intelligent or better prepared in the classroom. The implication was about physical readiness for the football field as a true freshman regardless of eligibility. As far as true freshman go, Aaron Miller did fit that criteria.
Doesn't look like your question has been answered, so I will try, but not going back and looking up all the details again but Rivals gives extra points if you are ranked in their top 150, I believe, and it starts with a substantial 150 points for the number one ranked recruit in the nation-------that is ten 5.4 two stars being promoted to 5.5 three stars worth. It goes down until the last three or four in the 150 get about 3 extra points, but just guessing being in the thirties probably adds 50 to 100 points above and beyond the 30 for the 0.1 jump in his rating, from a 6.0 to a 6.1. Lots more 6.0s out there than 6.1s, only 30 to 35 five stars each year.
Our other top 150 commits will add points also, but not nearly as much. Those extra points are very important to our final ranking as a team, since we are above 20 commits a higher rated commits only adds his value above the 5.5 or so he replaces on the 20, where we will get hurt in the final rankings is the top teams with less than 20 commits adding someone that will have all his points added to their total. That plus a lot of the higher rated four and five stars in their top 150 can afford to wait and will add bonus points to the top teams like this rating does to us.
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We had two of those true freshmen that were supposed to be our best OL under Brooks as true freshman, one played at 265# as a true freshman, I think that was Alexander, only a 250# 5.2 as a commit, Miller was a 5.4 around 300#.
Sadly both only played their true freshman year, if Miller had redshirted and played five years and Alexander had lasted four years the 07 team would have been something else, as I have often pointed out that OL only averaged less than a 5.2 on Rivals Richter scale, 5.1 C Johnson, 5.1 Gonzalez, 5.2 Leger, a 5.3 converted TE, and the best, Gary, another 5.1 that had a long pro career.
Hopefully they have improved their rating system a bit, and four and five stars like our OL commits have been thoroughly evaluated.
Sadly both only played their true freshman year, if Miller had redshirted and played five years and Alexander had lasted four years the 07 team would have been something else, as I have often pointed out that OL only averaged less than a 5.2 on Rivals Richter scale, 5.1 C Johnson, 5.1 Gonzalez, 5.2 Leger, a 5.3 converted TE, and the best, Gary, another 5.1 that had a long pro career.
Hopefully they have improved their rating system a bit, and four and five stars like our OL commits have been thoroughly evaluated.
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No, haven't done math. It's just when you look at the value of that 5th star, it moves us up several slots that others will have hard time overcoming such that 25th seems about as low as we can go.
Why are our recruits going to get bumped past other schools' recruits? Thanks.
Aaron Miller played in 2004 because he was the only true offensive tackle left on a sanctions-depleted roster. Our 2004 team went 2-9. We were terrible. Miller had pretty good natural ability, but not enough strength. It's funny how legends get started. Miller played okay. I saw him play often, and he certainly wasn't a star. He made the SEC all-freshman team. Well, how many other freshmen offensive tackles started in the SEC in 2004? LOL! Do you know? It's a long leap in logic to suggest Landon Young won't benefit from a redshirt in 2016 because Aaron Miller played and lasted in school for 1 semester in 2004. I understand fans' case for playing Young. I get it. Fans want a 5 star player to become an immediate savior. Some of our fans are impatient. The true question is what would be best for Landon Young and his career. Underdevelopment of highly ranked recruits like Micah Johnson, Morgan Newton, Aaron Boyd, Darrian Miller has not helped perceptions of our program. All of those played at Kentucky as true freshmen. For every offensive tackle who makes it as a true freshman, I can name 20 who go on to better careers because they get redshirts. This is indisputable, and the emotion needs to come out of the discussion. We need Landon Young to become a star. The best way for that to happen is to develop him the way almost all top offensive tackles are developed. This isn't a popularity contest. Right now, Stoops' record isn't significantly different from Joker's. Stoops must be very careful not to make the same mistakes Joker made with player development, especially with top recruits who are highly visible.
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