How about thanks , interesting read. Roster, my nephew got seven baby chicks last week and they’re under the lights. How many are Rosters? Haha. Anyone can guess and if you win, you win!
Last Four Champions - Roster Breakdown
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Ohhh shiiiit that cracked me the helll up man. Lmfao. I’m still laughing out loud. Thank you good sir. Craziness.
The problem with that is that we only identify the "championship quality coaches" using 20/20 hindsight. Before winning a title, I would not have had either Hurley or Golden on my list. Hurley had never gone past the round of 32. Golden had never gone past the round of 64. Self had some E8's before KU. So, he is the only one that would have been hired using that standard of a "championship quality coach."
I see one additional "take away" message from that summary of rosters.
For those who claim "mid-major players are inferior, I only want P5 transfers", of the 8 transfers on those championship rosters, 7 of the 8 transferred in from Mid-Majors, and only 1 (from TAMU) transferred in from a P5 school.
Although this year will change that some, as of the 17 transfers across the 4 teams who average 15+mpg, 5 came from Mid-Majors and the other 12 from P5 schools.
For those who claim "mid-major players are inferior, I only want P5 transfers", of the 8 transfers on those championship rosters, 7 of the 8 transferred in from Mid-Majors, and only 1 (from TAMU) transferred in from a P5 school.
Although this year will change that some, as of the 17 transfers across the 4 teams who average 15+mpg, 5 came from Mid-Majors and the other 12 from P5 schools.
Would agree with the general idea of complete team with the right amount of top tier talent as well as very good role playing more traditional 3-4 year college players.
You can look at big macro CBB data, but also zoom in and just do great UK teams.
Cal’s title team, almost 40 and 0 squad (take a gander at the composition of the team that beat that squad) Tubby’s title team and very good s16 EE teams. Pitino’s peak run.
Pros, roles, old and young. Not everyone was a superstar from the get go. Most cases took a couple of seasons to build up to those titles and deep runs.
You can look at big macro CBB data, but also zoom in and just do great UK teams.
Cal’s title team, almost 40 and 0 squad (take a gander at the composition of the team that beat that squad) Tubby’s title team and very good s16 EE teams. Pitino’s peak run.
Pros, roles, old and young. Not everyone was a superstar from the get go. Most cases took a couple of seasons to build up to those titles and deep runs.
It appears there are two common dominators.
1. Your coach who knows how to use their roster to their greatest strengths and comprehends their weakness
2. Balance of pure/hidden talent and experience.
1. Your coach who knows how to use their roster to their greatest strengths and comprehends their weakness
2. Balance of pure/hidden talent and experience.
I don't disagree. My primary take-away is that how talent is evaluated and who is considered "good" is not always obvious.
Eye opening - Coaching helps for sure but just reinforces the parts are out there and dont have to be a list of 4s and 5s to do it. Might also reinforce that if you're not as good a coach you do need 4s and 5s (Cal)
Very true; it's not easy. I can't say I know how to pick a young championship quality coach before everybody else wants them. But it's easier to know in hindsight that the guy you picked isn't one.