Last week I kept saying anything less than a blowout would be unacceptable

[Gamecock Jacque]

I am really hopeful Sellers just lost his touch on the ball being his first game. If he does indeed have it, and finds it, it could mean a world of difference in a short amount of time.

It looked like Sellers has actually regressed from the Furman game last year. It is my opinion that he was getting better coaching in high school than he has here under this staff. As strange as that must sound to some people.

 

[Blues man]

It looked like Sellers has actually regressed from the Furman game last year. It is my opinion that he was getting better coaching in high school than he has here under this staff. As strange as that must sound to some people.

I hear ya. We have been going through that same kind of regression for years here with our baseball program and just when it looks like that is going to be addressed, now we're seeing the same disappointing outcomes in the football program. The way I see it is if you aren't a school and program that is going to sell itself to the big name athletes, you better be able to develop them yourself. At this point all I can do is shake my head. Still curious to see what we can muster against UK though... moral victories aside. This is year four. Ready or not, let's play some SEC ball.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

It really is a "coin toss" as to which was the dumbest hire: Muschamp or Beamer. Should we be surprised at the ineptness in our coaching hires? Chadwell was there gift-wrapped for us. He has now won at 4 different schools. SMH

I wouldn't have minded the Chadwell hire, but I also understand why he wasn't hired. He coached at a small school and doesn't have Power conference ties. It would have been a risk and deemed stupid if we were still where we are now after 3 years. It's interesting that no other Power 4 schools hired him either. So, USC isn't alone in thinking it would be a risk or he wasn't ready.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

Because as many of us said when he was first hired, he can't do the job. I have virtually no interest in the program, and I certainly will not be donating money as long as he and Tanner are around.

That's the harm.

This is the battle cry of many folks who give little or no money to a program. You have virtually no interest in the program, but here you are complaining about it.

I'm assuming you weren't happy with what he did in year 1 and 2 then? Those were pretty darn good considering where the program was.

 

[jasonscottinsc]

We don't have to suck if we have a coach who "can do more with less".

He did more with less in year one and two, didn't he?

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

He did more with less in year one and two, didn't he?

I'm guessing that's why he's still here with an extension and raise.

 

[Lurker123]

I wouldn't have minded the Chadwell hire, but I also understand why he wasn't hired. He coached at a small school and doesn't have Power conference ties. It would have been a risk and deemed stupid if we were still where we are now after 3 years. It's interesting that no other Power 4 schools hired him either. So, USC isn't alone in thinking it would be a risk or he wasn't ready.

Not sure hiring the TE coach and being where we are now looks any better.

I know it's a hypothetical, but if we had not hired Beamer, do you think someone else would? I think he'd be at yet another position coach job.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

This is the battle cry of many folks who give little or no money to a program. You have virtually no interest in the program, but here you are complaining about it.

I'm assuming you weren't happy with what he did in year 1 and 2 then? Those were pretty darn good considering where the program was.

This is the battle cry of many folks who give little or no money to a program. You have virtually no interest in the program, but here you are complaining about it.

I'm assuming you weren't happy with what he did in year 1 and 2 then? Those were pretty darn good considering where the program was.

Mrs. Beamer, I suggest you hire a broker. It looks like you're headed back to Blacksburg.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Mrs. Beamer, I suggest you hire a broker. It looks like you're headed back to Blacksburg.

She probably wants to be here too.

 

[Tngamecock]

Sellers threw two out routes short on purpose. If you know football you know why.

 

[will110]

USC keeps firing coaches every few years and nothing changes. What's the harm of giving someone an extra year or two? It's not like it has ever been a consistently good program. Restarting with new coaches every 5 years doesn't work either. Spurrier was the greatest coach and era USC ever had in football.... and USC still didn't win a conference title!
It's kind of like Vanderbilt... football exists to fund the other programs. It sucks, but that's how it is until USC gets lucky to find the right guy... that's what Kentucky did with Stoops (remarkable that he's never left.). Too many "can't miss" coaches end up missing more times than they are successful (See Tom Herman, Billy Napier, etc.)

You do realize South Carolina has fired exactly ONE football coach this millennium? USC doesn't "keep firing coaches every few years." We've had a grand total of 4 head football coaches since 1999. Do you think Will Muschamp should have been kept around longer?

Here's the number of coaches other SEC programs have had in that time span (not counting interims):

Georgia (3)
Florida (7)
Alabama (5)
Auburn (5)
Mississippi State (7)
Ole Miss (6)
LSU (5)
Arkansas (6)
Missouri (4)
Oklahoma (3)
Texas (4)
Texas A&M (6)
Kentucky (5)
Vanderbilt (6)
Tennessee (6)

Only Georgia and Oklahoma have had fewer head coaches since 1999 than South Carolina in the SEC. This idea that we fire coaches all the time is just not true.

 

[cockyinflorida]

Beamer does not exhibit coaching skills. On Saturday, that was quite obvious. Beamer is NOT a coach. He is a cheerleader. That might work in a basketball-first league like the ACC where you have one of the few SEC-type programs. But, in the SEC, you are going to get eaten by sharks if you have no coaching skills. Yes, we could hold on hoping for the best. But "hope" is never, never a good plan. EVER!!!!! Yes, we could hold on for 5,6,7 years to see what happens. But in the meantime, recruiting will be in the dumps. Our program will be buried so deep in the ground, it will take an oil rig to find it. Are you willing to take that kind of chance? Or if we continue on Saturday's trajectory, would it be better to cut our losses, acknowledge we took a foolish gamble on someone who had never even been an OC or DC, much less a Head Coach? I know which option I choose.

We said the SAME things about Dabo… and look how mediocre he was his first 4/5 years as a HC

 

[gamecock stock]

We said the SAME things about Dabo… and look how mediocre he was his first 4/5 years as a HC

Go back and read over what I wrote. Dabo is in the ACC, a league made up of mostly basketball-first schools. Dabo is cheerleading a SEC-type of program in that league. That's a HUGE difference from trying to cheerlead for a whole season against SEC competition. Another difference is that Dabo can recruit. By now, Dabo already brought in one Top 10 class and one Top 15 class. Don't we all wish Beamer could do that? By the way, Dabo won 10 games in Year 4. Based on what you are saying, using your logic, Beamer should win 10 games this season, his 4th. Want to bet? Hmmmmmmm?

 

[rockingamecock]

You do realize South Carolina has fired exactly ONE football coach this millennium? USC doesn't "keep firing coaches every few years." We've had a grand total of 4 head football coaches since 1999. Do you think Will Muschamp should have been kept around longer?

Here's the number of coaches other SEC programs have had in that time span (not counting interims):

Georgia (3)
Florida (7)
Alabama (5)
Auburn (5)
Mississippi State (7)
Ole Miss (6)
LSU (5)
Arkansas (6)
Missouri (4)
Oklahoma (3)
Texas (4)
Texas A&M (6)
Kentucky (5)
Vanderbilt (6)
Tennessee (6)

Only Georgia and Oklahoma have had fewer head coaches since 1999 than South Carolina in the SEC. This idea that we fire coaches all the time is just not true.

very interesting!

 

[Lurker123]

We said the SAME things about Dabo… and look how mediocre he was his first 4/5 years as a HC

I think you should look back at his record for those first 4/5 years. They were a bit better than mediocre, and we would be so lucky to have that happen.

Granted, he was in the ACC.