Latest Bracketology Has 5 SEC Teams

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Latest NCAA bracket projection from http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology …





Even Lunardi is giving Duke Nova as a #2 seed. LOL That's almost a given.





























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This post was edited on 1/5 11:37 AM by Smashcat

 

[BlueBomb]

Well, what do you know? Louisville is the two seed in our bracket. Actually, that will probably end up happening.

 

[Hjack]

Originally posted by BlueBomb:

Well, what do you know? Louisville is the two seed in our bracket. Actually, that will probably end up happening.

Bad luck for the dirty birds.

 

[Ugoff]

They gotta have their storylines, but this one's getting old.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

It's aggravating for us, but a nightmare for them that just won't end.

 

[Phantom]

Originally posted by BlueBomb:

Well, what do you know? Louisville is the two seed in our bracket. Actually, that will probably end up happening.

Yeah, never saw that coming.

 

[BlueBomb]

If they continue putting us both in the same bracket, ONE DAY they will manage a victory. Just the law of averages, you know?

I hope it doesn't happen until Pitino is gone. I love beating that guy...

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

Everyone knows this is done by ESPN right? And other than last year when was the last time Louisville was in the same bracket?

 

[keefsopeng]

Originally posted by BlueBlood66:
Everyone knows this is done by ESPN right? And other than last year when was the last time Louisville was in the same bracket?

2012

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

Originally posted by miracle7s:

Originally posted by BlueBlood66:
Everyone knows this is done by ESPN right? And other than last year when was the last time Louisville was in the same bracket?

2012

If you want to call the "bracket" the whole tournament, then yes the NCAA tried to make a story line by putting both teams in the tournament.

 

[wild mandu]

Bracketology in January is silly, but we have a much tougher bracket than Duke, so it's probably accurate.

Which makes more sense for the 4 seed in the MIDWEST, West Virginia or Oklahoma? But, see, WVU has beaten us before and Huggins has an excellent record vs. Cal...so send them over there.

How exactly are UL and Villanova "trending upwards?" They both just lost.

 

[capnmonkey]

I hope everyone loves the SEC tournament, because the SEC tournament brackets are going to look alot like the NIT brackets

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Only thing Lunardi is good at is projecting who makes the field, which isn't exactly hard work, and to a lesser degree the seeds. He is annually horribly inaccurate as to which bracket which team is in, outside of the 1 seeds, and what the matchups will be.

 

[Rhavic]

I would find great humor in Louisville being our 2 seed.
I can imagine the pure disgusts their fans would have with that bracket.

 

[Jonathan40330]

I am sure there will differences of opinion, but I don't think we would play Louisville if that bracket held because I think Utah would beat them on a neutral court. If Utah failed, UK would succeed.

 

[yabbadabbadoo_rivals213851]

If Louisville was an 8 or 9 seed, they'd have them playing us in the second round. Guess they just like to humiliate Rick.

LSU will be in the top 25 if they can win probably 2 more games without losing (@MIZZ and GA)
S. Carolina should be in the top 25 if they can win probably 3 more without losing (FLA, @ Ole Miss, ALA)

think LSU can do it but not S. Carolina
This post was edited on 1/5 12:57 PM by yabbadabbadoo

 

[docholiday51]

Originally posted by wild mandu:
Bracketology in January is silly, but we have a much tougher bracket than Duke, so it's probably accurate.

Which makes more sense for the 4 seed in the MIDWEST, West Virginia or Oklahoma? But, see, WVU has beaten us before and Huggins has an excellent record vs. Cal...so send them over there.

How exactly are UL and Villanova "trending upwards?" They both just lost.

Yes,Jan. 5 brackets are only slightly more valuable than bowl projections for next year.UL will be lucky to be a 2 seed after their 1st year in the ACC,the Big 12 is more balanced than it has been in years(they can't just give KU the title for a change) There may be more good teams out west than there have been in years past.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Originally posted by yabbadabbadoo:
If Louisville was an 8 or 9 seed, they'd have them playing us in the second round. Guess they just like to humiliate Rick.


This post was edited on 1/5 12:57 PM by yabbadabbadoo

That's not true but only because they can't play at the YUM Center lol

 

[Joneslab]

The SEC won't get 5 in because the middle is going to poach itself.

Arkansas, LSU, and Florida are the three that should be NCAA Tournament teams. Florida isn't going to be. The other two have the talent--particularly Arkansas--but not sure they can win on the road.

 

[gossie21_rivals69805]

Originally posted by miracle7s:

Originally posted by BlueBlood66:
Everyone knows this is done by ESPN right? And other than last year when was the last time Louisville was in the same bracket?

2012

We met in the final four, so we were definitely in different regions.

Other than that, I know we were in the same region in 1996, we almost met in the elite-8 but Wake Forest and Tim Duncan knocked UofL out. Then there was 1984. I'm sure there were probably other times as well, but those where the ones that stick out to me.

 

[.S&C.]

Louisville Will not be a 2 seed because they will not be a top 10 team come tourney time.

I think the committee will try hard to get Duke a title before k leaves if they can. Look for east roads for Duke (nothing new )

 

[canebreak]

Why in the hell would Lunardu think that UNC, Duke and UVA would avoid any of their arch rivals. I mean UVA with Zaga as a 2 seed...sign me up. Why can't UVA get UL and we get Zaga.

I really hope they do not bracket UL and UK together. Do I think we win...yes. Do I want to play them no..let's play someone else.

 

[Violent Cuts]

The tournament committee definitely has it out for us. It seems like every year we're in the same bracket as Louisville, Indiana, Duke, or North Carolina.

 

[wild mandu]

Originally posted by canebreak:
Why in the hell would Lunardu think that UNC, Duke and UVA would avoid any of their arch rivals. I mean UVA with Zaga as a 2 seed...sign me up. Why can't UVA get UL and we get Zaga.

I really hope they do not bracket UL and UK together. Do I think we win...yes. Do I want to play them no..let's play someone else.

Can't have teams from the same conference as the 1 and 2 seed in the same bracket.

By March, I expect Indiana as our 8/9 seed, UL as our 4 seed, and the second best ACC team (Duke or UVA) as our 2 seed. Remember, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!

 

[Joneslab]

Originally posted by .S&C.:
Louisville Will not be a 2 seed because they will not be a top 10 team come tourney time.

I agree.

Their lack of offense and inconsistent (at best) point guard play is going to cause some losses, especially on the road.

Wouldn't surprise me if they dropped 5 or 6 conference games and went in as a 4/5 seed.

 

[SpamburgerHamburger_rivals101482]

Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

True. THe other factor is conference. The committee generally likes to space out conference teams if it can help it. So, if both Duke and UVA are both 1 seeds, then the NCAA would prefer to put UL in with either Wisco or UK.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

And it is absurd. Only THE NUMBER ONE SEEDS should get preference and help based on location.

What about the 1 seed that gets Texas in Houston if Texas is their 2? How is that rewarding the 1 seed? IT ISN'T. That is just one example I can think of. Plus, the cupcake west region as always. I'm sorry, but Gonzaga is a cupcake compared to the other 2 seeds we could play. They are good, but not as good as the other possibilities.

Hell, the only fair way to do it would to be to reveal all the brackets minus the 1 seeds and then give the top 1 seed the pick of which region they prefer. That is the only wan the committee would not stack UK's region.

 

[wild mandu]

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

And it is absurd. Only THE NUMBER ONE SEEDS should get preference and help based on location.

What about the 1 seed that gets Texas in Houston if Texas is their 2? How is that rewarding the 1 seed? IT ISN'T. That is just one example I can think of. Plus, the cupcake west region as always. I'm sorry, but Gonzaga is a cupcake compared to the other 2 seeds we could play. They are good, but not as good as the other possibilities.

Hell, the only fair way to do it would to be to reveal all the brackets minus the 1 seeds and then give the top 1 seed the pick of which region they prefer. That is the only wan the committee would not stack UK's region.

Agree. It shouldn't be based on location for 2-4 seeds.

It should be very simple, the higher the seed, the worse team they should play from the corresponding seed. The overall 1 should get the weakest 2, 3, 4, etc. etc. The second strongest 1 seed should get the second weakest 2,3,4, etc. etc. Otherwise, the regular season results lose some of their weight because you happen to play in a region where a lot of good teams do. The Western teams have been benefiting from this for years and it's bogus.

This post was edited on 1/5 2:59 PM by wild mandu

 

[far_away_fan]

I could be mistaken, but I thought that, as of last season, the NCAA did away with the "S-curve" for seeding and changed it back to geography. The top #1 seed gets to play closest to home, then the next best #1 seed etc. Then they do the same thing for the #2 seeds. So if UK is the top #1 seed and UL is the top #2 seed (which seems unlikely), then they'd still be put in the same bracket. Or even if UL is not the top #2 seed, but the higher #2 seeds are geographically far from the UK bracket venues then UL would still be the 2 seed in the UK bracket.

I strongly dislike this approach by the committee because it makes an ALREADY random tournament even more random. (That is to say that it makes it even harder for the team with the best regular season to win the title.) However, it probably does sell more tickets and make more story lines. And given that the event is really all about generating revenue, it does make sense from the NCAA's perspective.

 

[SpamburgerHamburger_rivals101482]

Originally posted by wild mandu:

Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

And it is absurd. Only THE NUMBER ONE SEEDS should get preference and help based on location.

What about the 1 seed that gets Texas in Houston if Texas is their 2? How is that rewarding the 1 seed? IT ISN'T. That is just one example I can think of. Plus, the cupcake west region as always. I'm sorry, but Gonzaga is a cupcake compared to the other 2 seeds we could play. They are good, but not as good as the other possibilities.

Hell, the only fair way to do it would to be to reveal all the brackets minus the 1 seeds and then give the top 1 seed the pick of which region they prefer. That is the only wan the committee would not stack UK's region.

Agree. It shouldn't be based on location for 2-4 seeds.

It should be very simple, the higher the seed, the worse team they should play from the corresponding seed. The overall 1 should get the weakest 2, 3, 4, etc. etc. The second strongest 1 seed should get the second weakest 2,3,4, etc. etc. Otherwise, the regular season results lose some of their weight because you happen to play in a region where a lot of good teams do. The Western teams have been benefiting from this for years and it's bogus.

This post was edited on 1/5 2:59 PM by wild mandu

No one is claiming it's perfect. But let's not kid ourselves. Using the location placement over strong/weak opponents is to get more fans to travel and for TV markets. As with everything, it's all 'bout dem Benjamins.

 

[Violent Cuts]

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

Which teams the committee places in each location are not necessarily in the same bracket. Most times, in fact, teams are in different brackets. Therefore, Kentucky and Indiana could both play their first round games in Louisville but not be in the same bracket.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:

Originally posted by The_Answer1313:

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Don't forget that seeding is based on location also. Kentucky, as the #1 overall seed gets games closest to home. So if Louisville is currently the #1 2 seed, they get preference to closest location. It contributes to us being in the same region with them a lot, because they are in our region geographically.

That contributes 100% to it.

It's all about location.

Contrary to popular belief the NCAA Tournament Committee does not have it in for UK lol.

Which teams the committee places in each location are not necessarily in the same bracket. Most times, in fact, teams are in different brackets. Therefore, Kentucky and Indiana could both play their first round games in Louisville but not be in the same bracket.

Right of course.

In the first two rounds they just go down the seed list and put teams in the closest region. Just look at the teams in Lundnari's bracket and locations for opening round games.

Charlotte = Duke and UVA
Columbus = UL and ND
Portland = Utah and Arizona
Pittsburgh = Villanova and MD
Omaha = Wisconsin and Kansas
and so on.

After the first two rounds tho it's STILL about location, just in a different matter. Now it's more depending on where your at on the seeded line. For example, say UK was the last 1 seed. We'd still play our games in Louisville but then we'd be shipped out West for the regional games.

If UL is the best 2 seed, they are going to the Midwest bracket. It has nothing to do with UK being there, so much as it has to do that it's their natural region and they were the first on the line. If UL was the best 3 seed (assuming that other teams in their conference aren't the 2 seed), they are still heading to the MW bracket.

This premium being placed on location has made the brackets unfair and uneven. If you have a bunch of good teams located close to one another (other bracket rules put aside for a second) they are all going to one bracket.

That's all this is. UK will not see Arizona as a 2 seed or Gonzaga. They just aren't. The only way that happens is if UK is the last 1 seed and gets shipped out West.

The locations and the fact that UL is not in the SEC, are the main reasons we stand a very high chance of seeing them as our 2 seed, if they are that seed.

 

[Violent Cuts]

I understand what you're saying and both UK and UL's closest region is Cleveland (Midwest) this year. However, it's also the closest region to Wisconsin and the rest of the Big 10. It's also the second closest region for the rest of the ACC. So, it will totally depend on where they are on the 2-seed line, assuming they are a 2-seed. But if we assume that Duke gets the Syracuse region, then it's safe to assume the highest ranked 2-seed from the ACC or the Big 10 will be in Kentucky's region.

 

[SpamburgerHamburger_rivals101482]

Could you imagine the idea of allowing teams to pick their region as teams were seeded 1-68, or however many there are now. Say the East is loaded and Duke is the #1 2 seed, so where they would normally get Greensborough, they could opt for the West region instead. I'm confident most teams would rather play close to home than take the perceived easier region, but it would make things more interesting.

This post was edited on 1/5 3:46 PM by SpamburgerHamburger

This post was edited on 1/5 3:54 PM by SpamburgerHamburger

 

[larry the cable guy]

In Lunardi's scenario I would be ticked off if I were Bo Ryan and Wisconsin. Duke (you know they will always have the easiest road) and Virginia would have the easiest road.

 

[caneintally]

Originally posted by Joneslab:
The SEC won't get 5 in because the middle is going to poach itself.

Arkansas, LSU, and Florida are the three that should be NCAA Tournament teams. Florida isn't going to be. The other two have the talent--particularly Arkansas--but not sure they can win on the road.

LOL at this point there is a bigger shot at getting 6 instead of 4. I don't think that happens but just laugh at when people down play how much better this conference has gotten. LSU , Arkansas each have 2-3 future pros . USC has a future first round pick . UGA has a lot of good players . It is UF who is the joke of the conference as they have shown . That is what happens when you decide to gety transfers instead of top 10 studs.

 

[Violent Cuts]

There's no way they're getting 6 in. They'll likely get 4, and other than Kentucky, they'll be low seeds.

South Carolina with its future first round pick should have beaten Akron or Charlotte.

The SEC isn't very good but will get 4 in just based upon the fact that someone has to win the games they play. It'll be Kentucky plus a bunch of bubble teams unless some other team dominates the rest of the conference and goes something like 14-4. But that won't happen.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Originally posted by SpamburgerHamburger:
Could you imagine the idea of allowing teams to pick their region as teams were seeded 1-68, or however many there are now. Say the East is loaded and Duke is the #1 2 seed, so where they would normally get Greensborough, they could opt for the West region instead. I'm confident most teams would rather play close to home than take the perceived easier region, but it would make things more interesting.

This post was edited on 1/5 3:46 PM by SpamburgerHamburger

This post was edited on 1/5 3:54 PM by SpamburgerHamburger

I agree with this.

We could take a poll on this board. UK is the overall 1 seed. They get sent to the Midwest bracket. This bracket will be the toughest bracket more than likely. Most likely the West would be the weakest.

Would you rather UK be shipped out west for the regional games (still play the 1st two rounds at YUM) or would you rather them play tougher opponents but be in Cleveland?

A few years ago they asked athletic directors what was more important. Not surprisingly they all said the TRAVEL. That's why we have the current situation.

I guess the bigger question would be do people really care if one bracket is harder than another?

This is an either/or thing. You either keep teams close and have unbalance or have teams travel for the sake of everything being balanced.