I know it's been discussed some already, but since a couple of people felt compelled to rip on Law after the first game, it seems appropriate that someone start a post about how much heart he showed today after having really bad first 15 minutes or so. He could have just stopped shooting, which I am sure a lot of folks on this board wanted him to do. Instead, he shot us back into the game, made a huge tip-dunk and grabbed 8 rebounds. Not a perfect game but I thought he really showed a lot of character today. I look forward to seeing him next year with some added strength and a few more moves.
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That is absolutely true. He was REALLY struggling. I said so in a post and as soon as I mentioned it, late in the first, he sank our first three. Then he got going in the second half. He has a lot of offensive potential to match his defensive talents.
You definitely you say he personified our team in this game - had a miserable first half, but never quit and showed a ton of heart in the second.
You definitely you say he personified our team in this game - had a miserable first half, but never quit and showed a ton of heart in the second.
I am proud Vic Law is a Cat!
He will forever be remembered as one of the leaders who helped us earn our first NCAA appearance...and he's not done yet!
He will forever be remembered as one of the leaders who helped us earn our first NCAA appearance...and he's not done yet!
As indicated elsewhere, this season Law did pretty well ON AVERAGE, shooting about 40% overall and from 3P land. The strange thing it's the way he does it: having extremely good or poor shooting games. This game started as one in the first group, but eventually moved to the good tytpe (6-13 4-6).
The question is: is there something in the mechanics of his shot that is producing these swings (something he involuntarily does or doesn't)? If there is, and can be discovered and corrected, then he could possibly become one of NU's best all time shooters (if most 'bad nights' are eliminated).
Really glad the good offensive Vic Law showed up in the second half. Made the comeback possible.
The good defensive Vic is almost always there.
We need to remember he has 2 more years left -- I expect the good to outnumber the bad by a greater margin next season.
The good defensive Vic is almost always there.
We need to remember he has 2 more years left -- I expect the good to outnumber the bad by a greater margin next season.
This. No NU starter would start on Gonzaga. There is a clear talent gap between what NU put on the floor this season and the top 10 or so programs. To play the Zags down to the wire is a real testimony to the heart the Cats played with.
Proud of that NU team.
I would really like to get a 7 foot grad transfer (and recruit a 7 footer in this incoming class).
Exactly. And when one of them put their finger to their lips to tell our fans and our team to quiet down, our fans and our team responded with a collective "hell no. Fu*k no. Not any more."
CBS loved it, playing it at least 3 or 4 times, oblivious to the fact that if anything, it had the exact opposite of the intended effect.
We need a guard to back up or complement Mac. Mac was exhausted yesterday and didn't shoot well and turned the ball over
The talent gap between their wings and our wings was not great at all. And I would take Pardon over their starter. And BMac didn't play well but he and their point guard were pretty even. Now their backup center is a different story...
I agree with that. I saw a physical disparity but not a talent disparity, at least not a significant one - which explains a close loss despite a BS 4 point swing and a total stinker of a first half.
I think that's pretty typical for 3 point shooters. I am pretty sure Lindsey and BMac have similar 3-point stats in terms of hot and cold. And check out Falzon's game log from last year. The difference is that Lindsey and BMac are able to score much more consistently in other ways when their 3-point shot is not falling. Vic has to finish stronger at the basket and/or become a lot craftier. He also needs to develop a couple of go to moves. I am confident he will do that in the offseason. But there should be no questioning his heart, because he came up huge in the biggest game of his career. Just as he did against Michigan. So the next time he has a bad game, I hope the board does not overreact.
He should watch a ton of Nigel Hayes tape. The game has slowed down for Hayes and he has developed great back to the basket dribble drive moves. Hopefully Brian James can work with him this summer.
Yeah. And he can learn from Brown as well who manages to draw a lot of fouls going to the basket at 6 feet.
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Yes, but Lappas, their announcer was very critical of the gesture. I've liked his style in the couple of games I've watched.
I'm not sure Gonzaga had two guards who would start ahead of McIntosh. I don't think they were that much better than NU, who would have beaten them by playing even a mediocre first half. The Zags do play good defense, but were aided by the Cats' inability to hit anything from long range in the first half. Once Tap and Law put a few threes in, the whole complexion of the game changed. If the Zags didn't like the physical nature of the game with NU, they're going to have a very rough time with West Virginia.
Let's get real: the Gonzaga point guard is a finalist for the Bob Cousey point guard of the year. And my eyes told me he was better.
I'll give you Pardon over the Polish guy. That Collins kid is going to be a really good college player and could well play at the next level.
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You must mean they had one guard who would, but perhaps not the other. Their PG is a finalist for the Cousy award and is likely NBA bound. Not sure we can say that about MacIntosh. Yet.
Could well play? No, definitely.
The Polish guy is going to be drafted. Size and skill will be a premium (hell, if Dan Kreft can get looks in camp, that Polish guy is gonna get drafted). Collins is going to go higher than anyone else on that team.
This all said, I'm not sure Pardon isn't going to develop and play himself into an NBA future himself. He has two more years and is already one of the better bigs in the B1G.
Pardon impressed me yesterday. He showed no fear and really showed some nice moves around the basket. He could be all Big 10 as a Senior.
Perhaps, but in the case of VL it seems to affect all his shots, which possibly includes even very short-range stuff. For example, he went 2-20 (0-6) against PU over 2 games; or more recently 1-8 (0-3) against Vandy.
But 10-13 (4-5) over two BTT wins.
Hopefully the cause for these wild swings is identified and corrected so that the extra bad games can be avoided while keeping the good ones.
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The Polish guy is not getting drafted. The NBA has changed dramatically from when Dan Kreft played and I am not sure he would have gotten drafted back then. I would take Olah over him. The point guard will also likely not get drafted. I haven't seen him in the top 60 of anybody's draft list. Collins will get drafted. And they apparently have a Japanese big man coming in next year that is supposed to be NBA ready.
Dude, I liked Olah. But, you're smoking weed. Just looking at the NU game I guess, where he was pedestrian, but over the course of the year, he's been a truckload to stop. I think he gets drafted, but I admittedly don't know what I'm talking about.
This was only one of the pregame warmups because it was the only one I watched but they were working on that during the Purdue game.
If I'm smoking weed about Olah, you're smoking crack about him getting drafted. I like Olah's overall game better for the NBA because he could hit some 3s and he ran the court better. Nobody in the NBA can use an unathletic big man whose only skill is to post up, which is all that I saw the Polish guy do. He couldn't guard anybody in the NBA and he would be guarded by men are who the same height as him but much more athletic. I will concede is he was a more effective college player than Olah but trust me that he's not getting drafted. Believe it or not but the two big guys at Michigan have a much better change of getting drafted.
I don't think the Gonzaga big man will be drafted but he is a better pro prospect then Olah.
Olah and Karnowski may be playing against each other in Europe next season.....