Led Zeppelin Trail
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People try to be cute with their takes, especially on the paddock. 99% of the **** from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s has aged horribly compared to LZ's catalog. Stairway is probably the only song in their catalog that sounds contrived. Maybe some of the stuff from ITTOD, but I love that album.
Criticizing a band that took heavy influence from blues for playing blues riffs is about some of the dumbest **** I've heard. Criticizing a band for having a couple of covers on their albums is right up there too... "LZ stole 'when the levee breaks'." No they didn't, assclown, it's called a cover and the credits are clearly listed in the album sleeve.
Just wow. This place can be stupid on an epic level sometimes...
They credited Memphis Minnie for When the Levee Breaks but left out Kansas Joe McCoy, so yeah, they got that one half right out of the dozens of others.
What's idiotic is blindly defending the band for plagiarism (in the face of reams of evidence and even after they've lost other lawsuits because of it) just because you like their music.
I love Led Zeppelin but I'm able to take a step back, comprehend reality, and realize that Page was a **** thief who knowingly and willingly stole music from people without giving credit. It goes far beyond building upon standard blues progressions. If you can't see that, you don't know anything about music and you're a **** too.
What's idiotic is blindly defending the band for plagiarism (in the face of reams of evidence and even after they've lost other lawsuits because of it) just because you like their music.
I love Led Zeppelin but I'm able to take a step back, comprehend reality, and realize that Page was a **** thief who knowingly and willingly stole music from people without giving credit. It goes far beyond building upon standard blues progressions. If you can't see that, you don't know anything about music and you're a **** too.
Yeah it's cool, people should be allowed to just steal whatever from whoever with no repercussions, I fully agree :100points:
We're not talking about Stan Lee here so maybe you should sit this one out, Mr. Wizard. I'll let you know if I need a take on who took a **** in X-Men Issue #45 Volume 8 Version 3 Remix 12.02
We're not talking about Stan Lee here so maybe you should sit this one out, Mr. Wizard. I'll let you know if I need a take on who took a **** in X-Men Issue #45 Volume 8 Version 3 Remix 12.02
Get over yourself. I'm sure LZ went thru the trouble to credit memphis minnie for a ******* STRAIGHT UP COVER but decided to omit other credits because.......? And the record execs and legal team for what was at the time one of the biggest bands in the world just didn't really bother to care. Is that what you're saying? Because I gotta be honest. The rationale in that thought is just completely non existent.
It's unfortunate that you're so blatantly ignorant to the topic we're discussing here, kubrick. Sadly, there's nothing I can do about that except call you an ignorant **** and ask you to spend some time researching subjects before making yourself look like the idiot we all already know you are.
I'd actually have to classify some of these pro-plagiarism takes as very racist. Sad.
I'd actually have to classify some of these pro-plagiarism takes as very racist. Sad.
Ok. Now that it's become clear that you're just hardcore trolling, we can just ignore you and get back to discussing the merits of this issue with sane/rational human beings.
Discussing how a rock group credited a black female blues musician on a cover song is all kinds of definitely ******* racist. Out-*******-standing take there, podge. Maybe you should plagiarize some decent takes.
Yet, you defend Page's theft of so much music created by strong black men. I'm not saying LZ was racist, I'm saying you are for not caring that Page stole from them. Page subscribed to equal opportunity thievery, this has nothing to do with him. When it comes to defending Howlin' Wolf, Sonny Boy Williamson, etc.....your silence is deafening.
You keep pointing out the Memphis Minnie credit....some people might construe that as an "I have a black friend!!" rebuttal, just FYI. Primarily by people who can read words and think good.
You keep pointing out the Memphis Minnie credit....some people might construe that as an "I have a black friend!!" rebuttal, just FYI. Primarily by people who can read words and think good.
You guys do know that LZ actually wrote 90% of their stuff and that the limited number of covers and riffs lifted have been accounted for by the band and of course lawyers.
You don't have to take my word for it - go do some of that research being talked about...
You don't have to take my word for it - go do some of that research being talked about...
I don't see the similarities in "When the Levee Breaks" except at a very generalized level, but didn't pay attention to the words so maybe. "Whole Lotta Love" very similar to "You Need Love," but the LZ version has some anal sex reference added ("I wanna be your backdoor man") so put that in the no problem pile. "Gallows Pole" and "Gallis Pole" are very similar, though.
And I have a black friend, Argubs2, so kindly don't.
Oh really? I heard it was closer to 30% TexasTim...and that number seems to be as valid as your un-cited and virtually unprovable 90% figure. And yes, they have been "accounted for" by Page either lying while denying the theft, settling out of court when forced to do so through lawsuits they would obviously lose, or actually losing the lawsuits.
Will Page relent and give Randy California a credit on STH? His lawyers recently offered to settle for $1 and a credit. (a credit which is worth millions in retained / future earnings) Does Page have the nuts to take this to trial? Does he believe his lies will hold water in court? Stay tuned.
OJ was able to skate.....and for the sake of humanity.....I hope Page doesn't.
Will Page relent and give Randy California a credit on STH? His lawyers recently offered to settle for $1 and a credit. (a credit which is worth millions in retained / future earnings) Does Page have the nuts to take this to trial? Does he believe his lies will hold water in court? Stay tuned.
OJ was able to skate.....and for the sake of humanity.....I hope Page doesn't.
Yep - Page and OJ - two peas in a pod - how could anyone not have seen that...
Party on brother...
Party on brother...
Just to be clear Randy California is been dead for quite a while. In his lifetime, he never wanted to sue Zeppelin. Maybe he wasn't sure if part of the intro to Stairway was really lifted. Who knows? It is his family that is suing the Zeppelin against the wishes of Randy California.
About that $1 settlement offer, it would entitle California's estate to a future share of the profits from the song. That is why LZ will not accept that offer.
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The Jury decided in Led Zeppelin's favor today.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/23/jury...id-not-steal-intro-to-stairway-to-heaven.html
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/23/jury...id-not-steal-intro-to-stairway-to-heaven.html