Leddie Brown Now Has More Rushing Yards Than the Entire 2019 Offense

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On the season, Brown now has 897 rushing yards on 165 attempts. As a whole, the offense totaled only 879 rushing yards on 334 attempts in 2019. An average of 2.6 yards per carry.

To top all of this, Brown has even tallied more rushing touchdowns alone this season. He currently has 9 rushing touchdowns on the season (with 2 receiving on top of that). Last year, the offense could only muster 7 rushing touchdowns for the entire season, with the seventh and final coming in game five against Texas.

All that in just 8 games.
 
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OL play...

The improvement in OLine play is surprising.
Plus it is getting better. Any OLinemen in the area should be watching what happened in the TCU game
 

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Nope, it's far more about Leddie Brown than it is about the O-Line. His yards after contact are what separates him from many running backs this season. He had 111 yards after contact on Saturday. Sinkfield runs behind the same O-Line, with dramatically different results.
 

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The Oline is nowhere near as good as it needs to be. They still miss blocks. They still give up sacks. They still have multiple movement penalties. Pass blocking is not great. They need to get bigger, stronger and faster.
 
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Doesn't change the fact that the OLine is getting a push off the LOS.

This wasn't happening last year.

Yes Brown has developed as well.
But doesn't change the fact that the OLine play has dramatically improved
 

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Big 12 play...

Sinkfield: 60 carries, 198 yards (3.3 yds/carry), 1 TD

Brown: 155 carries, 774 yards (4.99 yds/carry), 7 TDs
 

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Too small, and not enough quickness and speed to make up for his lack of size. Brown, on the other hand, was a four-star recruit for a reason. Good signing by Holgorsen.
 

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Well, that means JackSht
if Leddie puts 47 on Oklahoma
and 47 on Iowa State.


Like eer2000 inferred, it's time - it's time to beat upper echelon in b12.
 

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On the season, Brown now has 897 rushing yards on 165 attempts. As a whole, the offense totaled only 879 rushing yards on 334 attempts in 2019. An average of 2.6 yards per carry.

To top all of this, Brown has even tallied more rushing touchdowns alone this season. He currently has 9 rushing touchdowns on the season (with 2 receiving on top of that). Last year, the offense could only muster 7 rushing touchdowns for the entire season, with the seventh and final coming in game five against Texas.

All that in just 8 games.
If Dana was here...Brown would have 898 rushing yards on 164 attempts...
 

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Well, that means JackSht
if Leddie puts 47 on Oklahoma
and 47 on Iowa State.

Like eer2000 inferred, it's time - it's time to beat upper echelon in b12.

This team is a couple years away from beating the upper tier teams. If we can't beat the little ones of Texas or Texas Tech then this team is no just yet there. It's 20 games in and people think he should win the national title.
 

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So Sinkfield isn't a great RB.

OLine play doesn't help a RBs vision.

He likes to run sideline to sideline. As the old ball coach Don Nehlen use to say you don't go anywhere when you run sideline to sideline.

Big 12 rushes and yards

Rush 7 Yards 11 - OSU
Rush 6 Yards 53 - Baylor
Rush 14 Yards 18 - Kansas
Rush 6 Yards 11 - Texas Tech
Rush 14 Yards 85 - Kansas State
Rush 6 Yards 5 - Texas
Rush 7 Yards 15 - TCU
 

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This team is a couple years away from beating the upper tier teams. If we can't beat the little ones of Texas or Texas Tech then this team is no just yet there. It's 20 games in and people think he should win the national title.

We've been in the b12, for 10 years.

It's classic that the fan base has underachieving expectations --
while having early celebrations by beating KSU/TCU.

Eer2000 is absolutely correct.
Want to celebrate - beat Oklahoma and ISU.
@eer2000.
 

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We've been in the b12, for 10 years.

It's classic that the fan base has underachieving expectations --
while having early celebrations by beating KSU/TCU.

Eer2000 is absolutely correct.
Want to celebrate - beat Oklahoma and ISU.
@eer2000.

We've been in the Big 12 for 9 years. If you expected to be winning Big 12 title 6 out of 9 then you are over thinking things. I see WVU as being in the ability as Oklahoma State. Challenge ever so often but still win 9 to 10 games a year.

You don't change coaches and win the Big 12 right off the Bat. Especially when previous staff left you crumbs and and dirty dishes. Building strong foundation takes 4 years.

It's classic that the fan base thinks WVU is too good for Big 12.

EDIT: Iowa State is far from upper echelon of Big 12.
 

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We've been in the Big 12 for 9 years. If you expected to be winning Big 12 title 6 out of 9 then you are over thinking things. I see WVU as being in the ability as Oklahoma State. Challenge ever so often but still win 9 to 10 games a year.

You don't change coaches and win the Big 12 right off the Bat. Especially when previous staff left you crumbs and and dirty dishes. Building strong foundation takes 4 years.

It's classic that the fan base thinks WVU is too good for Big 12.

EDIT: Iowa State is far from upper echelon of Big 12.

Well
it's classic WVU -- to make excuses even before the Oklahoma/Iowa State games are even played.

This West Virginia defense is an
"once every 20 year" - defense.
This year, or wait another 20 years.


As for Iowa State at Ames,
RB Breese Hall will be a very high draft pick and Purdy is pretty dang good.
Again. At Ames.
 
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Well
it's classic WVU to make excuses even before the Oklahoma/Iowa State games are even played.

This West Virginia defense is an
"once every 20 year" - defense.
This year, or wait another 20 years.

Still need to score more points than your opponent. WVU defense will now face 2 of the top QB'S in Big 12 both of whom have better O-lineman. Former staff didn't believe in defense and it's not a 20 year cycle. This is why Brown is building something to compete. If you can't compete you're not giving yourself the opportunities to win.

You can't just say it's time and if it doesn't happen Brown is a failure. It's his 2nd year Former clown had 8 years.

Nobody is making excuses. It's more of living in reality that this team is still being built. Does that mean they can't beat OU and ISU? No it doesn't mean that at all. Win them and it's 2 really good steps on the climb and shows how much further you need to go or how little bit you have left to get to the top.

Win them and fan base will say it was a down year in Big 12 that's why they won. Lose them and it's back to Brown taking to long he should be winning the Big 12 now. Let's move on. WVU fan base is a fickle bunch that is never satisfied in wins or losses. Learning to compete is the first step. WVU is now competing with teams. Win and they will know what competing brings you.
 

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Allen out of respect for most of your positions, I'll move on.

Also. Spent the afternoon with A lady friend and "afternoon delight" caused me to defer any other analysis.

I said,
what I said.
 
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Good chance Iowa State ends the season on a three game losing streak.

Sad their failure to recruit talent at WR. When Campbell came in they had weapons at WR

The decline at WR is making them look like Iowa. But Iowa has improved at WR recently

The difference between Iowa State and others
Is that they can go 2 TE and still have weapons on the outside
Iowa State cannot

This doesn't mean those TEs can't make big plays
But much harder to stretch the field with Tight Ends than WR.

Just have to make sure those Tight Ends aren't allowing them to move the ball.
 
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Iowa St on D is simple...

You spread them out and run your QB.

Because they attempt to take the big play away they leave a lot of space.

The issue is WVU hasn't had a QB who will run. Doege needs to. It is a free 5-6 yards every time.
 

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Good chance Iowa State ends the season on a three game losing streak.

Sad their failure to recruit talent at WR. When Campbell came in they had weapons at WR

The decline at WR is making them look like Iowa. But Iowa has improved at WR recently

The difference between Iowa State and others
Is that they can go 2 TE and still have weapons on the outside
Iowa State cannot

This doesn't mean those TEs can't make big plays
But much harder to stretch the field with Tight Ends than WR.

Just have to make sure those Tight Ends aren't allowing them to move the ball.

I don't know about recent Iowa State WR recruiting in 2020.
BUT Iowa State (last time, I checked) has some of the Biggest BadAsses at WR in years. ---- Like 6-4 250 mofo's.

On the "Size Scale",
Iowa State has huge WRs.

Buyer beware.
 
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You mean Tight Ends...
They have some impressive Tight Ends

Kolar could be the best in the Big 12

Iowa State is limited

Think of Football as a battle for space.

Less space an offense can attack the better chance a team has to stop them

This is why teams like WVU attempt to suffocate teams and keep everything in front of them

Unless you have the WRs to attack downfield teams can keep that going
 

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You mean Tight Ends...
They have some impressive Tight Ends

Kolar could be the best in the Big 12

Iowa State is limited

Think of Football as a battle for space.

Less space an offense can attack the better chance a team has to stop them

This is why teams like WVU attempt to suffocate teams and keep everything in front of them

Unless you have the WRs to attack downfield teams can keep that going

No.....i mean WRs



I saw Iowa State, last year.

Bad ***,
WRs "size wise" anyway.

Add Breese Hall, to that formula, IMPRESSIVE rushing Attack by ISU.
VARY IMPRESSIVE.
 
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Baylor had some success against them because they couldn't get the ball to the WRs

Their WRs only caught 3 passes for 34 years

Purdy only completed 15 passes all together.

Watch the Oklahoma State game
Same story
 

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What a way to end the
2020 season Season.

Oklahoma
Iowa State.

If WVU can win 1 of 2,
it would be amazing.

Match Up's!




Go back and watch last year's
Iowa State 2019 game.
Breese Hall had a very easy~~ 132.
Felt like a smooth easy 132, Anyway.
(JUST checked).
Purdy threw for more than 10 yards, per completion last year.
ISU decisive.
 
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Lack of an offense so Iowa State could steamroll your defense because they kept you on the field.

Time of possession won't be anywhere close to that this year.

WVU has much more on the offensive line.
They can get first downs
WVU had 12 first downs the entire game. While Iowa State had 26


WVU did to TCU and K State what Iowa State did to them last year


If WVU going to be an alpha...
Cannot be afraid of Iowa State. They are nobodies.

Should be able to push them around on both sides of the ball up front
Iowa State isn't as good this year as they were last year up front.
 

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Lack of an offense so Iowa State could steamroll your defense because they kept you on the field.

Time of possession won't be anywhere close to that this year.

WVU has much more on the offensive line.
They can get first downs
WVU had 12 first downs the entire game. While Iowa State had 26


WVU did to TCU and K State what Iowa State did to them last year


If WVU going to be an alpha...
Cannot be afraid of Iowa State. They are nobodies.

Should be able to push them around on both sides of the ball up front
Iowa State isn't as good this year as they were last year up front.

Then it's time,
It's time to beat both Oklahoma
and Iowa State.
 
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This week will determine a lot what happens in that OU game...

WVU has to pressure Rattler into mistakes...
Since he returned during the Texas game he has rarely turned over the ball.
Texas put him on the bench. Riley stripped away half the playbook and stuck with what Rattler did well.
Since then they have expanded the playbook.


He needs to be hit and as often as he can.

Type of QB you may want to get a 15 yard penalty with to send him a message.


WVU needs to be able to take advantage of the small OU D Line
If Rattler is putting up points it would be hard.
 

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This week will determine a lot what happens in that OU game...

WVU has to pressure Rattler into mistakes...
Since he returned during the Texas game he has rarely turned over the ball.
Texas put him on the bench. Riley stripped away half the playbook and stuck with what Rattler did well.
Since then they have expanded the playbook.


He needs to be hit and as often as he can.

Type of QB you may want to get a 15 yard penalty with to send him a message.


WVU needs to be able to take advantage of the small OU D Line
If Rattler is putting up points it would be hard.

Next week, but we'll said
 
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The key to that game is WV has 2 weeks to prepare for

OU has 1

Oklahoma State is a very physical team.

You usually judge teams by how many players are knocked off the field...

Oklahoma State was one of the games with Texas that became a battle of attrition.

To combine having 2 weeks you could be getting a banged up OU team

But OU winning that game 38-13 is much different than 24-21 or even an OT game
 
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Improvement from year to year, is all we can ask for in the first few years of a new staff. Its great to see this level of improvement too, and supports an optimistic perspective for the future under NB's leadership.

Our OL is better, but still very far from a championship or CFP caliber OL. Moorer, Yates, Zach, Mayo, & White will be a pretty good OL in a couple years... LB is a good RB, he has the strength to shed a tackle to hit a 20+ yard run, and its clear hes worked on getting a little faster this past offseason, hopefully that will continue.

Give credit where its due, while our offense is still far from where we want it to be, it has taken significant steps forward in year 2. If we make this level of improvement from year to year, we'll see the program we've all hoped for a year or so ahead of schedule. All good stuff!

We'll face the best RB in the BIG12 the last game of the season. IowaSt's RB reminds me of OkieSt backup RB, who is always one cut away from a 40 yard TD... OUr Def will have its hands full the last two games of conference play. Thankfully we have a bye week to rest up, while our opponents do not and have tough matchups the week prior to playing. So our odds of winning 1 of the last 2 are probably better then some think..
 

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Good chance Iowa State ends the season on a three game losing streak.

Sad their failure to recruit talent at WR. When Campbell came in they had weapons at WR

The decline at WR is making them look like Iowa. But Iowa has improved at WR recently

The difference between Iowa State and others
Is that they can go 2 TE and still have weapons on the outside
Iowa State cannot

This doesn't mean those TEs can't make big plays
But much harder to stretch the field with Tight Ends than WR.

Just have to make sure those Tight Ends aren't allowing them to move the ball.
Wanna bet, fan boy? It's a simple question.
 

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Brown had essentialy the worst rushing game in all the P5 last year, had nowhere to go but up. Leddie Brown who Holgorsen brought in is doing a great job.

Its nothing short of amazing the russian troll bots here who bitched and raged endlessly that Holgorsen wasnt winning the BIG 12 and claimed any coach could come in and immediately do better, now hoping for 4 or 5 years for Brown to get WVU competitive.

Hypocrisy much? Good lord.

Oklahoma and ISU are it for this season to show what Brown actually has. Will he get over .500 or falter with another losing season?

Going to be interesting to watch.
 
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Wanna bet, fan boy? It's a simple question.

You are the one who says look at the history...

K State owns them. Iowa State has won 5 games against them since 1990.
Doesn't look like Matt Campbell is changing anything


Texas
Battle of Attrition.
I would take the Texas D vs Hall
They gave up 2.4 yards per carry against Baylor, WVU and Oklahoma State
Could be better coming out of the bye week
As an Ohio State fan. You should know what Chris Ash does. Melvin Gordon....

WVU
Iowa State could look to regain their manhood in this game.
Way too early to say because it is 3 weeks away.
But as of now I would take WVU
More physical team