Lemont Butler questionable for bama.

Panthur

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You can say you won’t miss his offense but in a game as free-flowing as this is shaping up to be, the pace will be very hard on us if we don’t have his downhill drives to the basket. I sure hope this is Pope taking advantage of a bruise-based gray area in the rules to mess with Nate Oats’ head.
 

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These new designations are kind of ridiculously arbitrary.

Questionable is listed as 50% likely to play. How do you differentiate that from doubtful which is 25% likely?

Carr was listed as questionable two games ago and played well, maybe 4 minutes less.

Not really sure how scientific this whole injury report thing is. I’m not a sports gambler but I guess that’s why they started this?
 

LineSkiCat14

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These new designations are kind of ridiculously arbitrary.

Questionable is listed as 50% likely to play. How do you differentiate that from doubtful which is 25% likely?

Carr was listed as questionable two games ago and played well, maybe 4 minutes less.

Not really sure how scientific this whole injury report thing is. I’m not a sports gambler but I guess that’s why they started this?

In the NBA, it seems to be pretty much as you said. Some teams will just throw anyone even a little banged up onto the Questionable list. I feel like doubtful might as well be a 5% chance in the NBA. Guys that are doubtful almost never play barring something miraculous happening.
 

NociHTTP

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You can say you won’t miss his offense but in a game as free-flowing as this is shaping up to be, the pace will be very hard on us if we don’t have his downhill drives to the basket. I sure hope this is Pope taking advantage of a bruise-based gray area in the rules to mess with Nate Oats’ head.
It will be free flowing as you stated, but it won't be because of Butler. The ball dies in his hands. He has yet to consistently drive and kick it out, and the Alabama game is not the game to practice it. Great defender, though!
 
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In the NBA, it seems to be pretty much as you said. Some teams will just throw anyone even a little banged up onto the Questionable list. I feel like doubtful might as well be a 5% chance in the NBA. Guys that are doubtful almost never play barring something miraculous happening.
I'd be curious to see an NCAA-wide analysis after the season of how often guys played when they were probable, questionable, doubtful. By rule it's 75%, 50%, 25%. But I would wager it'll end up being 95%, 75%, 10%.
 

LadyCaytIL

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LMAO , we've had people questionable for the last few games and they play. Think of "questionable" as in they'll play unless the injury is aggravated and worsening. He'll play but this does mean its entirely possible if Bama goes all mike tyson on him like A&M did , he could have to come out of the game , that would be the worry but he's 100% going to play until his body wont let him any further.
 

NociHTTP

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LMAO , we've had people questionable for the last few games and they play. Think of "questionable" as in they'll play unless the injury is aggravated and worsening. He'll play but this does mean its entirely possible if Bama goes all mike tyson on him like A&M did , he could have to come out of the game , that would be the worry but he's 100% going to play until his body wont let him any further.
People are used to Cal hiding his players until the roster is decimated from phantom injuries to the point that he can't "hide you".
 

arenk

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He's playing bro.... dude is getting some OT in the massage room.
Butler is a warrior and we desperately need him to win. It's not just his defense, but he's so court savvy and tough mentally and physically that his presence is necessary to win against of team of Bama's character. I'm pretty damn sure he plays and plays his guts out. WE have to hold serve at Rupp and this is one of those very tough games, much like Florida, in which we will have to be hitting our shots, getting some stops and continuing our newfound physicality that we displayed against MSU and Texas A&M.
 

Blueisbest

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With the beating that Lamont took on Tuesday, I would be shocked if he wasn't listed as questionable. That said, I look for him to start and play quite a bit today.
 

arenk

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With the beating that Lamont took on Tuesday, I would be shocked if he wasn't listed as questionable. That said, I look for him to start and play quite a bit today.
Totally agree. Every day I went to football practice in high school I felt sore, tired and beaten up when I came home. I'm nowhere near the athlete Lamont is, so I think it's a good bet he'll play even if he has some soreness. Unless he's received medical advice that playing could endanger the rest of the season for him, I'm pretty certain he'll be out there with that infectious grin on his face.
 

jmw23712

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I was at the game Tuesday and he hit the floor HARD several times. It sounded like someone threw a 200 lb sack of potatoes from the rafters when he landed. Add in that good kick to the face and he had to feel like he was in a car wreck the next day.

But he’s tough as nails so I still expect him to play. Most of these NBA guys would miss 6 months after that game.
 

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The key is he hurt his right shoulder, he will undoubtedly guard Sears that is a left hand shooter. That shoulder is getting ready for a workout. Butler is our best defender, I hope he can gut it out and get a week off.
 

FirewithFire

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He got the crap beat out of him by ThugAMU. It was ridiculous. I hope he is able to play, but only if he can do so safely.

My focus is a run in march. If he has to sit for his future health and we lose today then so be it. We need, as in have to have, him healthy for a run into the postseason.
 

WallMash

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I'm not happy that the best football in the SEC is played by BB teams like TexasAM, Georgia, SC, Miss state, etc. A&M beat the crap out of him.
 

FFWhite

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Butler got hit harder and more often than Tom Brady his last 10 years in the NFL. A&M definitely targeted him. Old style NFL where they hit the quarterback every play.
 
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The thought of Travis Perry guarding Mark Sears, sends chills down my spine.

Lamont will 100% play, he has all next week to rest.
 
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You can say you won’t miss his offense but in a game as free-flowing as this is shaping up to be, the pace will be very hard on us if we don’t have his downhill drives to the basket. I sure hope this is Pope taking advantage of a bruise-based gray area in the rules to mess with Nate Oats’ head.
Don’t think MP rolls like that with a borderline lie.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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People are on Twitter saying you can’t bet on butlers stats on FanDuel or draftkings, I hope he isn’t out, because that would make it very hard for Kentucky to win. They can win but him being out makes this game even tougher. Butler is a game time decision
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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He is warming up so I assume he plays, but might see more Perry then the 5-8 mins he is getting.
 

Panthur

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Don’t think MP rolls like that with a borderline lie.
Your virtue signaling doesn’t change the fact there is a “gray area” where Lamont is hurt bad enough that most guys wouldn’t play but tough enough and strong-willed enough that he somewhat likely will play in a situation where his docs say he’s most likely not in danger of damaging anything but still he should be watched closely leading up to the game and knowing all that Pope declares him questionable because that is the rule anyway, also taking advantage of the fact that in that case the rule itself actually serves as a way to mess with Oats’ head and complicate his preparations, and possibly helping that out a little with his discretionary choice of when to declare, and I’m hoping the reality is closer to that situation than to the situation where it just looks flat out questionable whether Lamont will play at all even with his toughness and his willpower because that bodes better for us. All these scenarios are gray areas and judgement calls with considerable inherent margins of error or we wouldn’t have a questionable category to begin with.
 

Panthur

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It will be free flowing as you stated, but it won't be because of Butler. The ball dies in his hands. He has yet to consistently drive and kick it out, and the Alabama game is not the game to practice it. Great defender, though!
5 apg in 26 mp and the only guy on our team who take a guy off the dribble and the ball dies in his hands. That makes sense.
 
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WildcatNC

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Kind of seems like Pope is being honest on the injury reports. Exactly as it stands when released, not trying to obfuscate or make a prediction.
 

4Frusciante#

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The thought of Travis Perry guarding Mark Sears, sends chills down my spine.

Lamont will 100% play, he has all next week to rest.
Same here; if Lamont can't play Jax will have to man the point and Perry coming in when Sears takes a rest. I don't think Perry is as bad on defense as some do but Sears is a load for anybody to guard and he's just too strong for Perry. Or maybe the 1-3-1 zone but the problem there is 'bama is one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the country, if not the best.