Ok, realistically Brown won’t be fired for this performance. He will be given this season to succeed or fail….is it remotely possible that donors will force a mid-season change at DC? How do you justify keeping the dude after giving up a td on 2nd and 30 in the same season, just two games after giving up a td before the half against Penn State like we did? Zero lessons learned, zero adjustments made. This team is getting torched through the air.
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We lost to Penn State at home, and Pitt........no matter what else he can do this year, this season is NOT A SUCCESS. Sorry. Gotta beat your rivals.
Neal is the head coach, Good head coaches when up 10 points late in the game, and the opponent facing a 2nd and 30, would make sure his defensive coaches understand that under no circumstances should a receiver get behind the DB's. That's now happened twice in three games.
I would venture to say by losing this game, 6 wins is not even obtainable, BUT, if we ran the table, I would take it.
On table being run will be the picnic table neal is eating at during bowl season, while he watches from his backyard.
Something I could never understand. Why go away from something that is working?
From the mid point of the second quarter on, but especially the third, WVU was playing some good defense.
It can even be argued all the way up to the 5 minute mark of the 4th.
The stats would bear this out as it seemed Spitt could do nothing. Maybe a play here or there but nothing consistent.
Then, as usual, things go downhill.
2nd and 30 and you don't blitz to make them throw underneath?
They had them in these kind of positions (2nd and 3rd and LOONNGG) several times and allowed big plays. Making your weakness (your corners) play and cover for longer periods?
Then, when you drop into what they did, you get the concrete shoes and never find a player in your zone to cover - just allowing easy chunk passes and QB runs because you've never gotten your head on a swivel?
No matter how you cut it up, this is just bad football. These are mistakes you would expect from a JV high school team. Not WVU...
But, it may even could be excused if it was a one-off type of deal. But, the mistakes WVU makes happen repeatedly, year after year. It's like playing roulette - you spin the wheel to see what type of stupid mistake(s) will be made this week. Will it be the one from week 1 or two years ago?
From the mid point of the second quarter on, but especially the third, WVU was playing some good defense.
It can even be argued all the way up to the 5 minute mark of the 4th.
The stats would bear this out as it seemed Spitt could do nothing. Maybe a play here or there but nothing consistent.
Then, as usual, things go downhill.
2nd and 30 and you don't blitz to make them throw underneath?
They had them in these kind of positions (2nd and 3rd and LOONNGG) several times and allowed big plays. Making your weakness (your corners) play and cover for longer periods?
Then, when you drop into what they did, you get the concrete shoes and never find a player in your zone to cover - just allowing easy chunk passes and QB runs because you've never gotten your head on a swivel?
No matter how you cut it up, this is just bad football. These are mistakes you would expect from a JV high school team. Not WVU...
But, it may even could be excused if it was a one-off type of deal. But, the mistakes WVU makes happen repeatedly, year after year. It's like playing roulette - you spin the wheel to see what type of stupid mistake(s) will be made this week. Will it be the one from week 1 or two years ago?
I don't think you blitz there on 2nd and 30. You make them throw underneath by playing an umbrella defense and allow them to throw for 10-12 yards, instead of over the top (which if not caught would have been PI anyways and a first down). In that situation, we allowed Pitt WR's to get behind us. That is inexcusable.
I would take that miracle of running the table. But this loss is going to sting for a long time.
Pitt had 47 total yards in 2nd half. Then final 2 drives you give up a 155 yards and 2 TD's in 4 minutes. The DC should have been fired after the game. The DB coach should have been booted with him. Neal Brown should have been put on notice, win out or pack your bags.
I get what you're saying but that's what you should do if you have decent... well, anything.
Our strength is the line, the weakness is the defensive backfield. These guys have shown, repeatedly, they can't cover for even a modicum of time. The best bet is to FORCE an underneath pass with pressure. They've been burned deep time and time again so that's the best hope.
Oh, why am I even arguing this. They could have done it my way and would still get burned for a TD. This team and staff invent new ways to lose when they've tried and mastered every other way. It's like watching NASCAR, you're just waiting to see how Brown and Company are going to wreck this week.
Legit question and maybe I’ve asked this on the board, I don’t remember, but seeing that he deleted his social media, how can he do his job effectively without social media? Social media is a huge factor in relationships with young people, recruiting, etc. it’s a bad look at best. I’m shocked a change wasn’t made.
He can't do his job effectively without social media anymore. Not as a recruiter especially, but in his case he already can't do those things because he doesn't have the ability or knowledge to do it well. Jordan Leslie is just another Joe DeForest. A setback.
Deleting his social media was weak. This whole coaching staff is weak. There's real problems in the world guys and we ain't one of them says Brown. That's the weakest excuse I've ever heard. I can't imagine not trying to be the best at my job because there are problems in the world lol. Especially if someone's paying me $4 million dollars a year to win. Totally unacceptable. His mentality alone is not worthy of his position. Weakest coach in WVU history
We rarely beat Penn State ever. I think we have 9 wins total. Not a huge loss.
Pitt that was a bad loss. Heck that was a beat your coaches to death and boot them bad loss. But it probably won't happen.
Generally speaking, Lesley has the been the knot holding what we have together.
He's been solid. The defense usually isn't the side that lets the wins slip away.
But, what happened last week can't happen again. Yes, there are personnel issues and limitations, but that was from taking the foot off the gas and playing not to lose. He can't replicate that any more this year - there just won't be any instances where the offense has such a stranglehold on the game that he can.
He's been solid. The defense usually isn't the side that lets the wins slip away.
But, what happened last week can't happen again. Yes, there are personnel issues and limitations, but that was from taking the foot off the gas and playing not to lose. He can't replicate that any more this year - there just won't be any instances where the offense has such a stranglehold on the game that he can.
Don't know if a L PSU is that bad. BUT the way we lost was telling. We did it even show up. All the fan support and we just sucked.
Then no way should we have L vs Pitt. We had that game in hand then....... 2gave up 2 td's in the last 5 min. We played so soft you could tell we were in trouble.
The blame is 100% on Leslie and Brown. NEOTHER should have been allowed on the bus back home.