let me get this straight....
- Thread starter ulismyman
- Start date
According to ESPN UK's class is 12th in the SEC.........just ahead of Mizzou's (understandable with the coach getting cancer) and Vandy. UK's class ranked 34th and UL's ranked 36 on ESPN. Not sure that is a wide enough gap to really brag about.
If UL signed a class full of back-up players on a 7th grade middle school team they would be telling us how they are headed for the national championship game next year.
Rivals has UK 29th and your filthy cheating tards 37th. Petrino must have been busy with his bimbos.
I don't know if this still holds true, but ESPN has always been considered the least reliable service. Rivals in my opinion has always been the best at predicting future success. I don't have facts to back that up, but it's the only one I personally trust.
The truth is that our class is just a little better than theirs and they are both very respectable classes. The other truth is that they are mid pack in their conference and we are still toward the bottom of ours. Assuming the coaching is equal, they should win more games than us and yes, we will have to hear them talk about it. The single thing we can do to shut them up is to beat them once a year when we get the chance to go against them head to head. Stoops and Co. need to make that happen starting next year.
Based on the past two years, I'd say that was a bad assumption.
True. However, to solve for this particular variable I had to make the others equal. It is an algebra thing.lol
Recruiting is a bizarre thing on any given day. What will these kids develop into? How will the coaching staff use them?
Fact is that Boisie, Missouri, Michigan State, and several dozen other schools have taken lower rated recruits or recruiting classes and built enormously respectable programs by having the right players in positions, discipline and game planning.
Coaching and player development are far more than fifty percent of the game.
Our coaching crew has done yeoman work in recruiting given the position and history of Kentucky football.
Now time for the rest of it.
Fact is that Boisie, Missouri, Michigan State, and several dozen other schools have taken lower rated recruits or recruiting classes and built enormously respectable programs by having the right players in positions, discipline and game planning.
Coaching and player development are far more than fifty percent of the game.
Our coaching crew has done yeoman work in recruiting given the position and history of Kentucky football.
Now time for the rest of it.
How many of the SEC teams classes are rated in the top ten, top twenty vs ACC teams.
Yep, both are respectable classes. But it's what you do with those classes that matter.....so that comes down to how does a coach improve their players. Petrino took a similar ranked recruiting class and won the Orange Bowl with said players. How a coach evaluates talent is the most important thing...not some national syndicates that don't know squat. How many 5 stars have you seen that go bust and 2/3 stars that play many years in the NFL?
Oh, and btw UofL is not a mid pack team in the ACC. They actually finished 3rd this past season and expect to finish somewhere in the top 3 again for 2016.
They finished 3rd in their division, not 3rd in the ACC. I realize that UofLoL is not even a "mid pack" academic institution, but, still.
The UL people are completely delusional, barring a few reasonable posters (though TPE is really the only one that comes to mind). There are literally none of them (except TPE and maybe an occasional post from 1-2 others) who can EVER admit that UL has any sort of weakness whatsoever. It truly is a legion of fanboys that think their team, coaches, and program do no wrong (even though it's evident that the wrongs are so numerous in that program that their now embroiled in scandal after scandal after scandal).
Here is how I look at it:
-We are outrecruiting them, though not by as large a margin as we thought we might.
-They have proven to have better coaching than UK, and in my opinion, they have embarrassed UK in the process. Last year's game was an abomination after UK too a 21-0 lead.
-The fact that we're out recruiting them based on nothing but "hope and dreams" while they actually have a few more decent wins and a better recent history to which they can point is pretty fascinating - it shows either that our staff is simply excellent on the recruiting trail or it says that UL has reached its zenith and will never go any higher, or both.
-It will be interesting to see how well this staff can recruit if the results improve in the next 2 years. I would imagine that winning 7-8 games in the next few years could push UK into top 20 territory, and that's pretty exciting.
In the end, I refuse to get too high or too low on recruiting. I need to see results out of this staff in 2016 before I can have much faith at this point.
Here is how I look at it:
-We are outrecruiting them, though not by as large a margin as we thought we might.
-They have proven to have better coaching than UK, and in my opinion, they have embarrassed UK in the process. Last year's game was an abomination after UK too a 21-0 lead.
-The fact that we're out recruiting them based on nothing but "hope and dreams" while they actually have a few more decent wins and a better recent history to which they can point is pretty fascinating - it shows either that our staff is simply excellent on the recruiting trail or it says that UL has reached its zenith and will never go any higher, or both.
-It will be interesting to see how well this staff can recruit if the results improve in the next 2 years. I would imagine that winning 7-8 games in the next few years could push UK into top 20 territory, and that's pretty exciting.
In the end, I refuse to get too high or too low on recruiting. I need to see results out of this staff in 2016 before I can have much faith at this point.
By mid pack, I was referring to them having the 6th or 7th best recruiting class in the ACC depending on the service. I guess I didn't put that to clearly.
Like someone said they are a very distant third in their division. Clemson and Florida St are killing it. Both will be very good next year. UL has a very large mountain to climb in their own division.
The other thing that people tend to forget about UL and signing day is they take anyone they can on the waiver wire. What would their defense look like next year without Fields, Clemmons etc.? Most likely very average at best.
The other thing that people tend to forget about UL and signing day is they take anyone they can on the waiver wire. What would their defense look like next year without Fields, Clemmons etc.? Most likely very average at best.
Hello MC bowl...you finished third in your division and tied for 5th overall...just thought I'd help you with that little "misprint" as I know you would never misrepresent Otis
Last edited:
It's OK BBP you WERE right and he was wrong!!!...NEVER trusts the "facts" when told by an Otis fan..not in their dna
I just checked Rivals again and according to them Bama is now #1, with five SEC teams in the top ten. Two teams in ULs division are top five, FSU and Clemson, and they were already pretty good. UK ended up (for now) 29th and in tenth place in the SEC, MSU dropped from 26th to 36th, just ahead of UL------where at the last minute BP added two 5.4s, two 5.2s, and an unrated commit, for his tryouts I suppose, pretty easy to run players off if you have no morals AND an AD like jurich.
Oh, did I just mention no morals and Louisville athletics leaders in the same sentence, and forget to include Slick Rick?
When discussing L-villes football recruiting most people forget their method and what they do. They usually recruit within a few points of where we are at but you have to take into account that they then take all transfers who have suspended or thrown off their respective teams for whatever crimes they've committed. I may be wrong but wasn't four or five of their defensive starters this year transfers? That pushes them ahead of us talent wise if you don't mind the criminal element on the team. I guess that's what it takes to be a L-ville man????
IF UK ended up with a class rated 10th overall it'd probably still be 5th or 6th best in the SEC.
2008 avg star rating: 2.50 (57th)
2009: 2.69 (41)
2010: 2.77 (50)
2011: 2.96 (61)
2012: 2.88 (62)
2013: 3.05 (29)
2014: 3.32 (17)
2015: 3.00 (36)
2016: 3.00 (29)
I think those are some pretty significant jumps not only in overall rankings but also in the average star rankings. If I am not mistaken, Kentucky had not finished inside the top 39 until 2013, and we've done it every year. We've also rarely, if ever, had an average star rating above 2.99 and yet we have had 4 in a row at this point. It isn't top 10 classes, but we're making strides and if these guys get coached up then we'll be close enough to compete with anyone once the depth gets there. Next year, IMO, should be pretty telling considering that Stoops should pretty much have everyone that he's recruited.
2009: 2.69 (41)
2010: 2.77 (50)
2011: 2.96 (61)
2012: 2.88 (62)
2013: 3.05 (29)
2014: 3.32 (17)
2015: 3.00 (36)
2016: 3.00 (29)
I think those are some pretty significant jumps not only in overall rankings but also in the average star rankings. If I am not mistaken, Kentucky had not finished inside the top 39 until 2013, and we've done it every year. We've also rarely, if ever, had an average star rating above 2.99 and yet we have had 4 in a row at this point. It isn't top 10 classes, but we're making strides and if these guys get coached up then we'll be close enough to compete with anyone once the depth gets there. Next year, IMO, should be pretty telling considering that Stoops should pretty much have everyone that he's recruited.