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Ok. Since I dont have access to the old threads discussing Thanksgiving prep, I will ask this here.

We are cooking a 24 lb bird. Pre brined.

No issues with the seasoning. I got that down pretty well.

I wanted to confirm cook time and temp. It will be in an oven bag. Crispy skin doesn't matter. I was thinking 3 to 3.5 hours at 350. Pull when thigh is 165.

Does this sound reasonable, or does anyone got a better idea? Time is important here cause of other items that need to go in the oven.
 
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Ok. Since I dont have access to the old threads discussing Thanksgiving prep, I will ask this here.

We are cooking a 24 lb bird. Pre brined.

No issues with the seasoning. I got that down pretty well.

I wanted to confirm cook time and temp. It will be in an oven bag. Crispy skin doesn't matter. I was thinking 3 to 3.5 hours at 350. Pull when thigh is 165.

Does this sound reasonable, or does anyone got a better idea? Time is important here cause of other items that need to go in the oven.

Like the average college student hooked on ChatGPT, I am no longer capable of thinking for myself (not really, but for fun), so I asked Google AI your question--with a "you're a seasoned grandma when it comes to thanksgiving dinner".

It said:

Oh, honey, a 24-pound turkey! That's a magnificent bird! And cooking it in an oven bag is such a smart move, especially when crispy skin isn't your priority. It locks in all that moisture and speeds things up a bit.

Let's talk about your plan.



👵 Grandma's Two Cents on Your Turkey Plan​



ItemYour PlanGrandma's AdviceWhy
Temperature350∘F325∘F to 350∘F350∘F is perfectly fine, especially since you're using a bag. A little lower, like 325∘F, is often the traditional sweet spot, but stick with 350∘F if you want the extra speed.
Cook Time (24 lb)3 to 3.5 hoursCloser to 3.5 to 4.5 hoursEven in a bag, a bird this size is big. The bag saves maybe an hour over an open roast. 3 hours for 24 lbs is very ambitious. I'd plan for 4 hours as a safe bet, and use the thermometer to be sure.
Target TempThigh 165∘FThigh 175∘F to 180∘FWhile 165∘F is the safe minimum for food safety, the thigh and drumstick have more connective tissue (collagen) that needs a higher temperature to properly break down and become fall-off-the-bone tender. You want the breast to be 165∘F, but the dark meat is always better and juicier when it hits 175∘F or even 180∘F.




📝 My Recommended Schedule for a 24 lb Turkey in an Oven Bag​



The most important thing for your schedule is to start earlier than you think you need to. A large bird always benefits from a good, long rest outside the oven (covered loosely with foil), which you can use to cook your side dishes!

  1. Prep: Preheat your oven to 350∘F (177∘C). Put your turkey in the oven bag, seal it up, and poke the required steam holes.
  2. Cook: Place the turkey in the oven.
  3. Timing: Start checking the temperature around the 3-hour mark.
  4. Finish: Pull the turkey out when the temperature in the deepest part of the thigh (not touching bone) reaches 175∘F.
  5. Crucial Step: REST the turkey for at least 30 to 45 minutes (up to an hour for a bird this size), tented loosely with foil. The internal temperature will continue to rise by a few degrees (this is called carryover cooking) and all those wonderful juices will redistribute, giving you the most tender, moist meat.



💡 Best Idea for Tight Time: Use a Remote Thermometer​



If time is your biggest concern, get yourself a remote-read meat thermometer. Insert the probe into the deepest part of the thigh before it goes in the oven. That way, you don't have to keep opening the oven bag and letting out all that heat and steam! You'll know exactly when it hits 175∘F.

Your initial idea is close, dear, but just bump up that time estimate and the dark meat temperature, and you'll have a turkey to be proud of!

Do you need a hand finding out what time you should put the turkey in the oven, based on when you want to serve dinner?
 

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Thanks nerf. The old goat (Chat Grandma) isn't too far off of what I was thinking. We haven't done one this big before and I was a bit nervous about the time. Our previous ones were around 17 lbs. I got them done around 2 hours.

Ill probably put my Meater in the breast meat, pull at 160. That should get it to 165-170 with carryover. Id rather scramble to get dark meat up to temp vs overcooked breast meat. Ill spot check it with an instaread.

Im jist glad its going in the oven. It will be a high of 29 here. I can do it, but its a tall task to smoke with air that cold.
 

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Thanks nerf. The old goat (Chat Grandma) isn't too far off of what I was thinking. We haven't done one this big before and I was a bit nervous about the time. Our previous ones were around 17 lbs. I got them done around 2 hours.

Ill probably put my Meater in the breast meat, pull at 160. That should get it to 165-170 with carryover. Id rather scramble to get dark meat up to temp vs overcooked breast meat. Ill spot check it with an instaread.

Im jist glad its going in the oven. It will be a high of 29 here. I can do it, but its a tall task to smoke with air that cold.
Season 3 Nbc GIF by The Office
 

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Chef IQ is a great remote thermometer that pairs to your phone. Lets you know when the desired temperature is reached.
If you don’t have one…. Maybe Santa will bring you one. I use it for all my grilling… no more ruined meals. Jmho. 😊
 
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Chef IQ is a great remote thermometer that pairs to your phone. Lets you know when the desired temperature is reached.
If you don’t have one…. Maybe Santa will bring you one. I use it for all my grilling… no more ruined meals. Jmho. 😊
Ill look into that. But I have been quite happy with my Meater, which came highly recommend by the old board. I really wish someone would make a true remote thermometer didn't need a phone or app. For the old school guys like my dad.
 

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Ill look into that. But I have been quite happy with my Meater, which came highly recommend by the old board. I really wish someone would make a true remote thermometer didn't need a phone or app. For the old school guys like my dad.
I have a thermoworks smoke x4 that is pretty great—no apps but a remote unit with pretty long range wireless connection. only major issue I have with it is that the probes themselves are all wired to the base unit—so I can’t use them with my rotisserie kit.
 
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I have a thermoworks smoke x4 that is pretty great—no apps but a remote unit with pretty long range wireless connection. only major Iissue Inhabe with it is that the probes themselves are all wired to the base unit—so I can’t use them with my rotisserie kit.
Immediately I know that would cause issues, much like you had. Dad does a pile of rotisserie.

I know there is no market for a stand alone truly wireless thermometer. Otherwise everyone would have one. Dad is truly old school. He is one of the few people I know that has a chance of truly going off grid. He despises most tech.
 

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I miss the old food thread from the other board. Hopefully this can be the start of the new one.

I have a 17lb bird for tomorrow. Ive already completed a wet seasoned brine. Its been in the fridge uncovered for a day now drying the skin out. Im still not completely sure if I'm spatchcocking it or traditional style. That'll be a gametime decision.

Either way I decide to cook it I'll do a seasoned butter and broth injection, seasoned butter under and on the skin, and a basic seasoning shake over that.

I can't wait for tomorrow. I love Thanksgiving. 🦃🥧🍴
 

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I miss the old food thread from the other board. Hopefully this can be the start of the new one.

I have a 17lb bird for tomorrow. Ive already completed a wet seasoned brine. Its been in the fridge uncovered for a day now drying the skin out. Im still not completely sure if I'm spatchcocking it or traditional style. That'll be a gametime decision.

Either way I decide to cook it I'll do a seasoned butter and broth injection, seasoned butter under and on the skin, and a basic seasoning shake over that.

I can't wait for tomorrow. I love Thanksgiving. 🦃🥧🍴
I will start another food thread in the spring if somebody doesn't start one before. I miss that one too. Piles of great ideas and instructions.

Are you cooking in an oven or smoker? An oven cook, I would say no need to spatchcock. Smoker cook, I absolutely would. It provides a much more even cook.

Coming from previous conversation on this... a prebrined turkey is actually done correctly. No need to add anything.

I do a seasoned herb butter under the skin, on the top, and in the cavity. 4 stcks of butter. Not really needed, but makes a great base for gravy.
 
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Thanks nerf. The old goat (Chat Grandma) isn't too far off of what I was thinking. We haven't done one this big before and I was a bit nervous about the time. Our previous ones were around 17 lbs. I got them done around 2 hours.

Ill probably put my Meater in the breast meat, pull at 160. That should get it to 165-170 with carryover. Id rather scramble to get dark meat up to temp vs overcooked breast meat. Ill spot check it with an instaread.

Im jist glad its going in the oven. It will be a high of 29 here. I can do it, but its a tall task to smoke with air that cold.
Using the Meater is the call. It takes away all the anxiety. You can cook with precision.
 

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I will start another food thread in the spring if somebody doesn't start one before. I miss that one too. Piles of great ideas and instructions.

Are you cooking in an oven or smoker? An oven cook, I would say no need to spatchcock. Smoker cook, I absolutely would. It provides a much more even cook.

Coming from previous conversation on this... a prebrined turkey is actually done correctly. No need to add anything.

I do a seasoned herb butter under the skin, on the top, and in the cavity. 4 stcks of butter. Not really needed, but makes a great base for gravy.
I'm oven baking this one. A couple family members attending don't like anything smoked. You've helped me make my decision. Traditional style it is. We usually stuff the bird with bread stuffing but the yield is small for large groups maybe I'll just toss some vegetables and a lemon in it for a change.

I've only spatchcocked 1 turkey before and I did cook that on my smoker, but why do you think there isn't a benefit in the oven? Im just curious since I haven't done it much.
 
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I'm oven baking this one. A couple family members attending don't like anything smoked. You've helped me make my decision. Traditional style it is. We usually stuff the bird with bread stuffing but the yield is small for large groups maybe I'll just toss some vegetables and a lemon in it for a change.

I've only spatchcocked 1 turkey before and I did cook that on my smoker, but why do you think there isn't a benefit in the oven? Im just curious since I haven't done it much.
An oven generally provides much more even and consistent heat. Spatchcocking is not needed.

I have a stick smoker, so others may differ. Any bird going on my smoker will be brined and Spatchcocked or split in half completely.

We stuff ours with lemons, celery, onions, apples, and parsley. Plus a rub of herb butter inside and outside of the skin.

I love in turkey stuffing, but it adds another half hour to cook time. Plus not everyone likes it.
 

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@PAgeologist I was on Amazon looking at the wireless thermometers. There are quite a few that show the temp and other information on the case that the thermometer comes in. I tried to post a link but On3 must not like that. A simple amazon search should show you what I am talking about.

I can't vouch for them, just wanted to let you know these may work for your dad.
 
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Ok. Since I dont have access to the old threads discussing Thanksgiving prep, I will ask this here.

We are cooking a 24 lb bird. Pre brined.

No issues with the seasoning. I got that down pretty well.

I wanted to confirm cook time and temp. It will be in an oven bag. Crispy skin doesn't matter. I was thinking 3 to 3.5 hours at 350. Pull when thigh is 165.

Does this sound reasonable, or does anyone got a better idea? Time is important here cause of other items that need to go in the oven.
The heck with cooking it, let's talk about eating turkey!🙂
 
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I saw an article yesterday that I found interesting.


Why so interesting? Because I was in the midst of helping my parents prep 4 of the 6, or at least very close relatives.

Of the 6, we have scaloped oysters, Copes corn, BIG pile of giblets as an appetizer, but not in the gravy, and cranberry salad, without the marshmallows.
 

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Turkey is in the oven.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
Hey have a look at this kit for you dad. It’s been recommended by one of my favorite youtube cooks—no app (but does use WiFi). I couldn’t remember its name, but my cookies + the ad algorithm helped me out. If I was buying today, i’d probably get it.
 
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Hey have a look at this kit for you dad. It’s been recommended by one of my favorite youtube cooks—no app (but does use WiFi). I couldn’t renege its name, but my cookies + the ad algorithm helped me out. If I was buying today, i’d probably get it.
Now that's what i have been looking for. Guess there was a market for it after all.
 
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Happy Thanksgiving. We’re drinking the traditional Beaujolais Nouveau which is meant to be an authentic reflection of the year and the plot. As an old local saying goes, "When we uncork the first wine of the year, we celebrate the life of the vine and the promise of the new century." Be grateful today guys, there’s much to be thankful for.
 

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I’m still on the coffee. Had to help the gal get the bird ready for her family gathering.

soon as this ends, I got a bird to get on the smoker later (wet brined and seasoned, air drying in the fridge). Couple pre rolls ready for the afternoon smoke and snack. little extra spice on the afternoon smoked bird. Few CropWeisers on the docket. Wish I cared about football.
 
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So how did everyone’s birds turn out? I deep fried mine again and it was fantastic!
almost pulled the trigger on deep frying... any specs to your method? Instead, I put a fresh 19lb'er in the oven at 325 and 4 hours later it was perfect Might try the fresh route again... 3x more but what the hell...
 
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Mine turned out fantastic as well. I dont believe I'll cook a turkey ever again without injecting it first. Seems to be a real game changer. Now is my favorite part of Thanksgiving... the leftovers.
My wife injects wine into the turkey. Uses a small bore needle and injects wine several times. The breast is juicy and falling apart tender. This year she used rhubarb wine. we've had several other wines, including white zinfandel. The wine gradually seeps down into the drippings and helps make wonderful gravy, Hope all on this board had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Always a day to contemplate all aspects the gratitude we feel for all the people and creatures in our lives. (y)
 

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almost pulled the trigger on deep frying... any specs to your method? Instead, I put a fresh 19lb'er in the oven at 325 and 4 hours later it was perfect Might try the fresh route again... 3x more but what the hell...
I have been deep frying ours for at least 20 years.
I season it the night before, inside and out. I used Kosmo’s Dirty Bird, but anything will work. I had a pre brined bird, otherwise you can brine it the day before seasoning.

peanut oil heated to 350, drop the bird in slowly, temp will drop, from here out shoot for 325 oil temp. Fry for 3.5 mins per pound. Temp the bird with an instant read thermometer. Let it rest a bit but beware the skin snatchers that will hover around it, circling like vultures!

I like that from set up to bird out of oil generally takes about an hour. And it frees up the oven for other things.

making soup from the bones today.
 
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I always brine and go breast side down for the first 2 hours. Then flip over (not for novices) and you still get crispy skin and it evens out the cooking times between white and dark meat.Theory is breast side down keeps white meat juicy while exposing dark meat to more heat (which cooks the dark meat faster).
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