Little Sister (MU) just won a national championship....
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Good for them, but who really cares? I know folks here like to pump up WVU's rifle team, but any sport that doesn't make money or have a high profile professional league like baseball are a crap shoot. Hard to get excited to be the pinnacle of a sport that so many other possible competitors don't even bother trying to compete in. It's why I don't put a lot of stock in the US for the World Cup when a vast majority of the countries in that competition have soccer as their pinnacle of sport. I.E. the best athletes in those countries want to be the best at soccer. While the US soccer team really is just the scraps left over after football, basketball, baseball, and to a lesser extent hockey have picked through the populace. It's why the best soccer team in the US is not much, but the best MLB or NBA team in the US is the best in the world. Hence an NCAA football, basketball and to a far lesser extent baseball championship means more since it is against a large number of schools that actual try to win. While just about every other college sport has only a fraction of the schools actually trying to win rather than just going through the motions.
Herd's team was made up mostly of Central and South Americans, and I believe one player from Canada, maybe two.
I may have heard wrong, but I thought I heard the announcers say that only one American player was on the team, or it could have been only one West Virginian was on the team. Either way, most were from south of the U.S. border.
I may have heard wrong, but I thought I heard the announcers say that only one American player was on the team, or it could have been only one West Virginian was on the team. Either way, most were from south of the U.S. border.
No matter the talent foundation or the circumstance, this accomplishment was all good for this tiny little state called West Virginia.
Personally, I salute the Big Green. And, taking down those high and mighty Hoosiers in anything is even more tasty. A little bit of "Hoosiers" in reverse, in my opinion. A tearing down of the "picket fence" was on display last night. As the sun came up this morning, the splash across the national news scene featured Marshall taking down Goliath. It was the sling shot heard 'round the states.
Just curious, what IF the West Virginia University Mountaineers had won that same title? Your comments would have been worded in what manner?
National champs associated with any West Virginia school is an accomplishment that I relish. A basketball title or a football championship are on my wish list for my beloved Mountaineers. I could then leave this earth with a smile on my face.
Today, I am smiling.
Personally, I salute the Big Green. And, taking down those high and mighty Hoosiers in anything is even more tasty. A little bit of "Hoosiers" in reverse, in my opinion. A tearing down of the "picket fence" was on display last night. As the sun came up this morning, the splash across the national news scene featured Marshall taking down Goliath. It was the sling shot heard 'round the states.
Just curious, what IF the West Virginia University Mountaineers had won that same title? Your comments would have been worded in what manner?
National champs associated with any West Virginia school is an accomplishment that I relish. A basketball title or a football championship are on my wish list for my beloved Mountaineers. I could then leave this earth with a smile on my face.
Today, I am smiling.
My comments are exactly the same when WVU has won in rifle or wrestling. I was equally underwhelmed when WVU women's soccer made it to the championship game. And that is, good for them. You can only play the competition ahead of you and you won. However, forgive me for not caring as much when that level of competition is no where near as intense as it is in other sports.
Good for them
Celebrate success even if it’s not your own.
Yes it is soccer, a sport most WVians use to Sunday afternoon sleep by when golf and napcar get too exciting but good for Marshall for winning.
Celebrate success even if it’s not your own.
Yes it is soccer, a sport most WVians use to Sunday afternoon sleep by when golf and napcar get too exciting but good for Marshall for winning.
Disagree here
Baseball
Country Club sports
Olympic sports
Each university chooses what they want to compete in
Not many who are NC quality in every sport.
So you pick what sports you want to put the money behind. At least the boosters do.
Marshall wants to be a soccer school that is their choice.
Not going to act like people don't care... Ultimately it is about the student athletes. They care no matter the sport.
If WVU wanted to take that sport serious don't think Marshall would be winning too often though.
Baseball
Country Club sports
Olympic sports
Each university chooses what they want to compete in
Not many who are NC quality in every sport.
So you pick what sports you want to put the money behind. At least the boosters do.
Marshall wants to be a soccer school that is their choice.
Not going to act like people don't care... Ultimately it is about the student athletes. They care no matter the sport.
If WVU wanted to take that sport serious don't think Marshall would be winning too often though.
Awesome--great to see a WV program have the commitment to reach those heights of success. A national championship in any sport is a fantastic accomplishment--good for the Herd.
Congratulations to Marshall. I never resent good things that happen to other schools or people, even if it's Pitt. I only care about what happens to my beloved alma mater or my family. That's just the way I'm wired. If someone in the family hits the lottery, I'm happy for them, not gritting my teeth because it didn't happen to me. I don't understand why every fan and every person can't be that way.
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WVU women’s soccer was ranked #1 and choked when they had their chance at a national title while Marshall was unranked and grabbed the brass ring. Good for them.
And the national basketball title in 1942, when the NIT was THE national title in America. NCAA was just beginning to crawl and teams regularly bypassed the NCAA to go to the NIT. Not any more, obviously. March Madness is the premiere college basketball event every year these days! And the equivalent of a national title in football in 1922 when they didn't name national champs. Clarence "Doc" Spears' undefeated team won the precursor to the Rose Bowl (before the Rose Bowl was born). It started in 1902 as Tournament East-West Football Game then dropped for 13 years in favor of ostrich races and chariot races which drew bigger crowds. The Rose Bowl Stadium didn't open till 1923, the year after WVU beat Gonzaga (yes, THAT Gonzaga) 21-13 in the San Diego East-West Christmas Classic. Close enough to a national title for me. Pitt and Marshall has claimed national titles with less credentials.
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DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACE THAT THE NIT WINNER BACK THEN WAS THE DE FACTO NATIONAL CHAMP. NO MATTER HOW YOU WANT TO SPIN IT. 1942 NIT CHAMP WAS WAY BIGGER THAN THE 1942 NCAA WINNER WHEN STANFORD BEAT DARTMOUTH. BOTH STANFORD AND WVU WERE CONSIDERED CO-CHAMPS BY EXPERTS OF THAT YEAR. CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME. WHY DO YOU WANT TO PISS ON IT?
WEST VIRGINIA HISTORY SAYS THE 1942 NIT WAS CONSIDERED THE NATIONAL COLLEGE BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP OVER THE NCAA. BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU. CASE CLOSED. MAYBE YOU WANT TO ARGUE WITH George Ramsey, who spent several hours looking through old editions of the Fairmont Times to learn a little more about the West Virginia University Mountaineers’ first national championship in men’s basketball.
The Mountaineers won the National Invitation Tournament title in 1942. The big, bold headline at the top of the front page shouted “Mountaineers win national cage tourney.”
“Back then, the NIT was the premier tournament — the tournament you would like to be invited to,” said Ramsey, 77, of Fairmont. “When these sportscasters say the Mountaineers have never won a national title, what they mean is that they’ve never won an NCAA championship.”
IF YOU CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, here it is:
The Mountaineers won the National Invitation Tournament title in 1942. The big, bold headline at the top of the front page shouted “Mountaineers win national cage tourney.”
“Back then, the NIT was the premier tournament — the tournament you would like to be invited to,” said Ramsey, 77, of Fairmont. “When these sportscasters say the Mountaineers have never won a national title, what they mean is that they’ve never won an NCAA championship.”
IF YOU CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, here it is:
The only one pissing on anything is your attitude towards people because they do not agree with you. Dude take a freaking chill pill.
If true then tell me, where does National Championship banner flying at?
The Mountaineers were crowned NIT champions in 1942.
Stanford was named National Champions D1 basketball 1942.
Even as late as 1950, when both the NIT and the NCAA had 8-team fields, City College of New York won BOTH titles, the only school to do it in the same year. NIT was considered THE national title in 1950.
CCNY, coached by Nat Holman, was hit by the point-shaving scandal (win, but within the mob’s preferred point spread) a year later.
CCNY withered through 12 sub-par seasons before being dumped down to the College Division.
The NIT was founded in 1938 and became the most prestigious tournament for college basketball, forcing the NCAA by mid-1950s to ban members from rejecting the NCAA bid in favor of the NIT bid, as teams repeatedly did.
Utah lost in the NIT first round in 1944, but then played in and won the 1944 NCAA title.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CFE AND THAT'S ME. ALSO TALLMADGEERS BECAUSE OF A COMPUTER GLITCH WHEN I TRIED TO SIGN ON ONE YEAR AT ONE OF THESE WVU FORUM SITES. NOT TO BECOME A MULTIPLE POSTER, LIKE SOME. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PERSON POSTING IT. WVU WAS THE NATIONAL CHAMP IN 1942 WHEN IT WON THE NIT.
CCNY, coached by Nat Holman, was hit by the point-shaving scandal (win, but within the mob’s preferred point spread) a year later.
CCNY withered through 12 sub-par seasons before being dumped down to the College Division.
The NIT was founded in 1938 and became the most prestigious tournament for college basketball, forcing the NCAA by mid-1950s to ban members from rejecting the NCAA bid in favor of the NIT bid, as teams repeatedly did.
Utah lost in the NIT first round in 1944, but then played in and won the 1944 NCAA title.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CFE AND THAT'S ME. ALSO TALLMADGEERS BECAUSE OF A COMPUTER GLITCH WHEN I TRIED TO SIGN ON ONE YEAR AT ONE OF THESE WVU FORUM SITES. NOT TO BECOME A MULTIPLE POSTER, LIKE SOME. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PERSON POSTING IT. WVU WAS THE NATIONAL CHAMP IN 1942 WHEN IT WON THE NIT.
This is nothing more than your biased opinion, and posting it in capital letters, over and over and day after day, doesn't make your assertion factual. The field of each tournament strongly supports the argument that the NCAA Tournament was the more prestigious of the two tournaments, and only biased WVU "journalists" ignore this fact. Take a look at the programs in each tournament field:
NIT: WVU (champion), Western Kentucky State (runner-up), Creighton, Long Island, Toledo, CCNY, Rhode Island, and West Texas State; and
NCAA: Kentucky, Kansas, Stanford (champion), Illinois, Penn State, Colorado, Rice, and Dartmouth (runner-up).
I don't care what biased scribes say; one tournament field is clearly more prestigious than the other.
AT LEAST YOU KNOW IT'S ME AND NOT AN IMPOSTER SOME THINK IS ME. THE WORDS ARE WHAT COUNT, NOT THE ALL CAPS OR THE BOLD TYPEFACE.