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I mean we've been hearing the same fear mongering about illegal immigration for literally decades and yet the crime rates keep dropping. It was a huge part of the 2016 campaign ("they're not sending their best") and yet the data since then showed illegal immigrants did not cause an increase in violent crimes.What do you mean exactly? You don’t need data to know the reality of what’s happening. People are dangerous in general. Some countries are more dangerous than the US.
Ask the people from Colombia how gun control works.
Yes, there are dangerous people everywhere, and yes tons of countries are more dangerous than the US. But there is zero evidence that people entering this country illegally are more dangerous than the native Americans already here. You can show me all the Fox News headlines you want, but "the plural of anecdote is not data" is a saying for a reason.
The "reality of what's happening" is not reflected by reading cherry picked headlines from news publications. As of July 2024 violent crime in the US is down significantly and homicides are as low as they've been since 2015.
And Colombia's problems weren't caused by gun control. The instability of Latin America is in large part due US foreign policy over the last 100 years.
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If we're talking about outdated data, your first link is from 2020. So it seems like police have always had trouble solving violent crime, whether we are talking before or after the illegal immigration narrative started.
And sure, unsolved violent crime might be up, but the actual violent crime and homicides are down. Homicides are as low as they've been since 2015. Some people talk like America is a violent hell scape right now thanks to illegal immigrants. That simply is not true no matter how much you want to dismiss the data.
If decades of data show that illegal immigrants commit crimes at lower rates, and current data show violent crime is at almost a decade low, then I dont know how anyone can conclude that illegal immigrants are causing huge issue with violent crime in America right now. You can always cherry pick headlines showing people of any group committing violent crime, illegal immigrants included, but that doesn't mean it proves any big picture trend.
Haitians are eating house cats in Springfield, OH and this motherf'r is defending bringing those 3rd world morons here. Unbelievable.
Good. That's the sort of thrift and removal of an environmental pest that I love to see from our beloved immigrants.
Win/win.
Springfield police say no reports of pets stolen, eaten, after viral social media post
The Springfield Police Division said Monday they have received no reports related to pets being stolen and eaten.
I represent several. Per PTI, they are likely to all be related so I can ask if anyone knows a cat-eating Haitian up that way if you want.
Just need to know where the Jacksonville, FL chapter meets? I can handle it from there.
OH! So I can use the cats to lure them to the golf course and when they see the Canadian Geese, they'll behead them?!
They do this all for free?!
Lol. That's literally fake news. No immigrant is eating house cats in Ohio. That's already been debunked by the local police. A crazy woman was arrested in another part of Ohio over the summer for that, but she was neither an immigrant or related at all to the Haitian community.
You guys really have to do a better job with media literacy.
"A social media post originally from a Springfield Facebook group went viral nationally in recent days. The original poster did not cite first-hand knowledge of an incident. Instead they claimed that their neighbor’s daughter’s friend had lost her cat and found it hanging from a branch at a Haitian neighbor’s home being carved up to be eaten."
An account from a random Facebook poster's "neighbor's daughter's friend" is not something to base your talking points on.
And I see you really missed the data is not the plural of anecdote point.
Springfield police say no reports of pets stolen, eaten, after viral social media post
The Springfield Police Division said Monday they have received no reports related to pets being stolen and eaten.
I come to read the latest about a man hunt in Eastern Kentucky involving a very white guy who probably votes along the same lines as many of you here, and found a bunch of old white guys boogeymanning immigrants although it seems to not be a part of this story unless a ginger named Jospeh Couch came in a migrant caravan from West Virginia or something.
Making partisan politics one’s whole identity is weird.
Making partisan politics one’s whole identity is weird.
You came to a UK sports site to learn the latest about a manhunt in Kentucky?
THAT is weird.
.While the Clark family is upset about what happened, one thing they did ask is for the hate to stop. “In capital letters and bold print, we do not want our son’s name to be associated with hate that’s being spewed by the uninformed majority that vocalized their hate," Nathan said. “What I would ask from the community is, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, shut your mouth. Be quiet. If you do, you don’t have to share your opinion. I would ask people today, instead of spreading hate, spread some love. We could use it," Driscoll said.
What a POS. Pays big bucks to live 1500 yards behind a Costco but is still fearmongering.
^ Creep much?
This appears to be accurate based on my understanding of the geography and timeline.
Imagine searching this while expecting to be shot at every moment. Respect to every LEO on the ground. What a nightmare.
This appears to be accurate based on my understanding of the geography and timeline.
Imagine searching this while expecting to be shot at every moment. Respect to every LEO on the ground. What a nightmare.
Look for the buzzards circling and we’ll find Couch.
If he planned this out, he could have a bunker built back there stocked with food and water for sometime.
You're right, its a good distraction from the reality that a town of 60,000 now has 20k Haitian immigrants that have put severe strain on the cities services.Lol. That's literally fake news. No immigrant is eating house cats in Ohio. That's already been debunked by the local police. A crazy woman was arrested in another part of Ohio over the summer for that, but she was neither an immigrant or related at all to the Haitian community.
You guys really have to do a better job with media literacy.
"A social media post originally from a Springfield Facebook group went viral nationally in recent days. The original poster did not cite first-hand knowledge of an incident. Instead they claimed that their neighbor’s daughter’s friend had lost her cat and found it hanging from a branch at a Haitian neighbor’s home being carved up to be eaten."
An account from a random Facebook poster's "neighbor's daughter's friend" is not something to base your talking points on.
And I see you really missed the data is not the plural of anecdote point.
Springfield police say no reports of pets stolen, eaten, after viral social media post
The Springfield Police Division said Monday they have received no reports related to pets being stolen and eaten.www.springfieldnewssun.com
So make that argument instead. But the original talking point in this thread was about violence caused by illegal immigrants. There wasn't any mention of immigration at all until someone said everyone needs guns to protect themselves from the scary immigrants. There are certainly debates to be had and arguments to be made about illegal immigration, and I am not coming out in defense of putting thousands of asylum seekers in small towns.
But if someone is making the claim that there has been an influx of violence caused by illegal immigrants, and there is no actual proof of that, and instead they keep spouting off about literal fake news, then I think that needs to be corrected.
Jmo but i think thats what happened. In his text to the woman he said he was going to kill himself. He already ditched his belongings and rifle. obviously his cell phone hasnt been on.
I know he could have backup supplies etc but i think hes gone into some remote cave and killed himself because he knows it will take forever to find him thereby prolonging the chaos he wanted.
I think they are doing it on a by county basis. Fewer schools are closed today than yesterday.
Then they could be just much smarter than you.
Of all the shockingly obtuse "arguments" made by the left today, your "studies show illegal immigrants commit crime at a lesser rate than Americans do, so cocnern is therefore misplaced," is perhaps the most ignorant one you'll see.
And no, I'm not going to explain it to you. Your argument is a failed IQ test, one that makes sense to you and that you find useful... that some people you find dumb might just regurgitate or cherry pick headlines to make their point against you is irrelevant to the facts of the matter.
Why do you keep ruining threads with political talk when there is a political thread?
Are you dumb? White man rage? That’s the most on point comment in three pages.
You are a persistent offender. Go talk politics in its dedicated thread. It isnt hard.
Btw not everything or everyone is driven by politics.
We don’t want him either. Have you read any of his posts?
Lol unfortunately. At least his awfulness can be contained in one place rather than hijacking everything.
lol. Comprehension ain't your thing my man. You've got 4 pages of weirdos ranting about immigrants in a thread that has nothing to do with immigration.
Shaddup
I personally like the superintendent of Pulaski County Schools, but I think he (as well as the Somerset and Science Hill school districts and Somerset Community College) made a mistake in not calling off classes yesterday. A lot of parents are irritated, and I get why.