Luke McCaffery....

HUSKERFAN66

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Saw that too. Good news. Let's hold this class together and finish strong. Offensively they should be not concerned because we are yielding production. Defensively I would think good players would be licking their chops of perceived early playing time and impact
 
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HUSKERFAN66

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I would be guaranteeing starting or playing time to big time defensive recruits for the rest of the year.
I couldn't ever guarantee someone a starting position=selling your soul to the devil. But I would have no problem selling potential of a lot of early playing time IF they work hard. They will be given every opportunity to succeed and nobody's spot is guaranteed or safe. Best player starts at at every position on the team. AND this includes special teams
 

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I am looking forward to the Calibraska four stars to make an impact next year. Gotta get three star players like JD Spielman off the field.;)
I remember when we were recruiting Tyjon Lindsay and he was a 5-star, at the time, and I asked on this board how is he possibly a 5-star recruit and JD was only a 3-star. Similar size, both quick, fast, etc. JD looked better, but Lindsay played against better competition.
 
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I would be guaranteeing starting or playing time to big time defensive recruits for the rest of the year.

If you are serious, why in the world would you do that? I thought the battle cry was every spot open for competition - the best will play.
 
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BigredN

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I would be guaranteeing starting or playing time to big time defensive recruits for the rest of the year.
Whoah, slow your roll. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that its not crap like this that put us where we are today. How about we recruit quality players that fit system and culture and give them an opportunity to excel.

In my opinion when you recruit with promises you sell your soul to the devil. He/She is getting soft and gave us a chance to reclaim said soul. The only thing that was asked for in return was that we all (fans/players/coaches) had to live in purgatory for a while.................Welcome to the 2018 season..........
 
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I remember when we were recruiting Tyjon Lindsay and he was a 5-star, at the time, and I asked on this board how is he possibly a 5-star recruit and JD was only a 3-star. Similar size, both quick, fast, etc. JD looked better, but Lindsay played against better competition.


Tyjon was a cooler name, I'm thinking
 

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Whoah, slow your roll. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that its not crap like this that put us where we are today. How about we recruit quality players that fit system and culture and give them an opportunity to excel.

In my opinion when you recruit with promises you sell your soul to the devil. He/She is getting soft and gave us a chance to reclaim said soul. The only thing that was asked for in return was that we all (fans/players/coaches) had to live in hell for a while.................Welcome to the 2018 season..........
I think it’s called purgatory.
 

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Was more impressed with his throwing in this year's highlights so far. Looks like he's getting a little more pop on his throws and not lofting it like crazy. Saw his bro doin' work on Wisconsin late in that game
 

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If you are serious, why in the world would you do that? I thought the battle cry was every spot open for competition - the best will play.
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Guaranteeing playing time isn’t a big deal if you qualify it with “if you bust your *** for me” and considering the new redshirt rules. I would think coach would be more than willing to get into the games highly rated recruits who do it his way.
 

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Guaranteeing playing time isn’t a big deal if you qualify it with “if you bust your *** for me” and considering the new redshirt rules. I would think coach would be more than willing to get into the games highly rated recruits who do it his way.
You can’t guarantee anything. Adding that caveat would not matter, as most players think they are busting butt even when not.

You’ll end up with big heads whom see themselves out the door in week 4 again.
 

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4* aka higher chance he eventually transfers

True, I cringe when we are recruiting a 4* guy. What's our success rate with 4* in the past 8 years (Post- Callahan recruited players) ? Like 17% chance that they contribute greatly here?
 

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You can’t guarantee anything. Adding that caveat would not matter, as most players think they are busting butt even when not.

You’ll end up with big heads whom see themselves out the door in week 4 again.

So those players will be gone anyway. It’s really a silly discussion, because every coach will say “I’m going to play the best players, and if you work hard and do it the right way, I’m confident you will have a great chance to get on the field soon.” Every coach is going to promise something to a big time recruit, whether or not it is explicit or implied.
 
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HUSKERFAN66

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So those players will be gone anyway. It’s really a silly discussion, because every coach will say “I’m going to play the best players, and if you work hard and do it the right way, I’m confident you will have a great chance to get on the field soon.” Every coach is going to promise something to a big time recruit, whether or not it is explicit or implied.
With the new transfer rules, IF you promise a kid a starting spot, are you going to follow through with it so you aren't called aliar and he leaves? Or do you start him and sub him out to get your better player on the field?

This obviously is assuming he hasn't panned out like some true freshmen do when they're not ready for prime time.
 

Lincoln100

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The op on this was discussing guaranteeing a starting spot OR playing time. High profile players are going to expect, at least, early playing time. Whether or not a coach uses the word “guarantee,” I will guarantee you that they are all promising it to these guys, but are softening it up by telling the player they have to put in the time and effort. Whether they get in on special teams only, or only for a handful of series throughout the year, the coaches don’t become liars if a player doesn’t get exactly what they want. The player may be pissed they aren’t getting more pt, but that isn’t on the coaches.
 

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Guaranteeing playing time isn’t a big deal if you qualify it with “if you bust your *** for me” and considering the new redshirt rules. I would think coach would be more than willing to get into the games highly rated recruits who do it his way.

There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to start. First, guaranteed playing time is not the same as "get into the games." So the standard for "get into a game" is busting your rear end? That's all it takes huh?

So let's assume your option for all recruits. So far this year we have played three RB's and now it appears, just two. You going to guarantee PT to all those guys? Or is it just the recruits that get the special treatment, if you have been there 1-3 years and busted your rear you don't get the PT because, after all it wasn't promised to you.

Doesn't all play into the narrative of getting something you have not earned or deserve? I can think of no faster way to destroy the culture of a team than to start making promises like this. Maybe you can tell me another coach who actually does this?
 
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Close but not true. Dismuke says hi. And I don’t look down on the term or what they tried do with that. It was away to try and help us sale recruiting to the kids out west. We definitely can’t give up on or lose our Cali recruits we seem get every year. There has been plenty of them that has helped our team out over the years. I will say this, It is nice to get Florida into the mix a little better now along with our Cali connections we have. Maybe the Texas recruiting will pick up a bit now too. We used to have good luck in Texas as well. Cali, Florida and Texas is huge to have when it comes to recruiting. Will take any advantage we can get.
 

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4* aka higher chance he eventually transfers

That will not happen. By the time he gets here Martinez will be a sophomore and McCaffery will red shirt. When McCaffery can play Martinez will be a junior. That leaves McCaffery several years to play and lead our offense. His brother didn’t leave Michigan when Patterson came in, so I definitely I don’t see Luke doing it either.
 

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I remember when we were recruiting Tyjon Lindsay and he was a 5-star, at the time, and I asked on this board how is he possibly a 5-star recruit and JD was only a 3-star. Similar size, both quick, fast, etc. JD looked better, but Lindsay played against better competition.
Biggest difference JD works to get better where as Lindsay was told he was a 5 star so he figured everything would be gifted
 
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Lincoln100

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There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to start. First, guaranteed playing time is not the same as "get into the games." So the standard for "get into a game" is busting your rear end? That's all it takes huh?

So let's assume your option for all recruits. So far this year we have played three RB's and now it appears, just two. You going to guarantee PT to all those guys? Or is it just the recruits that get the special treatment, if you have been there 1-3 years and busted your rear you don't get the PT because, after all it wasn't promised to you.

Doesn't all play into the narrative of getting something you have not earned or deserve? I can think of no faster way to destroy the culture of a team than to start making promises like this. Maybe you can tell me another coach who actually does this?

My comment was clearly about high-profile recruits, not every recruit, so I can dismiss 1/2 of what you said. “No,” in no way does it play into the narrative of getting something you have not earned or deserved; that’s precisely where the “busting your *** for me” comes into play. If someone works hard, then I presume they have earned it. This really isn’t that complicated. And why exactly is “guaranteed playing time” not the same as “get into games?” Actually, I couldn’t care less about your answer, you run a little hot and clearly know what it takes to run a program.
 

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That will not happen. By the time he gets here Martinez will be a sophomore and McCaffery will red shirt. When McCaffery can play Martinez will be a junior. That leaves McCaffery several years to play and lead our offense. His brother didn’t leave Michigan when Patterson came in, so I definitely I don’t see Luke doing it either.
Have to sign him first.