'Speculation' off of what people involved with the program is saying. If that is speculation to you, then feel free to label it that. It's not like I know some huge secret that others here do not know. Speculation would be more along the lines of Bolden.
Luke's future
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'Speculation' off of what people involved with the program is saying. If that is speculation to you, then feel free to label it that. It's not like I know some huge secret that others here do not know. Speculation would be more along the lines of Bolden.
Funny how hurt some get when others relay info that is known throughout the program. Settle down guys, these kids have long, drawn-out processes to go through, not us, and most do not change their plans based on 2 games.
But I guess I said speculation was not allowed. If you could point it out, that would be sweet. I was just trying to bring a sense of reality to the thread, but apologies if some are offended by it. Have a good night gents.
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Draft stock as high as it probably will get. Coming back there is always a chance of injury. Smart money is on him going this year.
NBA teams do not normally play a zone. South Carolina's defense is what took Luke out of his game.
Honesty hurts sometimes. You shouldn't apologize for being honest. If they can't take it or understand it then they can go here https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/tar-heel-radar.24/
They'll fit right in!!!
You and Me both. I wasn't talking about you gong there but the other homers are on here that are complaining and getting all frazzled. I too have know idea why I'm banned.
You didnt say you had "a strong sense" in your earlier statement as I recall. You said "sorry guys,he's gone." Good job of courtroom theatrics though, I will give you that....
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I know why I'm banned and I'm damn proud of it haha.
Courtroom theatrics? The kid is gone, it has been known around the program for about 3+ months. I guess when the announcement comes, you'll blame that on courtroom theatrics? You're just upset because you don't want him to leave. I get it. Maybe I will not type in a hurry next time and ensure that you get a dissertation on why I am confident he is gone. Will that suffice? Maybe he'll listen to some here and throw away millions of dollars because of 2 virus-laden games where he looked slow and soft? That makes sense.
It's like some who thought Jabari, Austin, Kyrie or Rodney would come back when they had disappointing endings to their careers here.
We are indeed SO FORTUNATE to have someone so close to the program like you on board.....
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I'm fine with people holding out hope that Luke is coming back, but that's likely all you're doing. As Timo said....many posters thought some other guys were coming back too. While I think there's a better chance for Luke to come back than there was for any of the others he listed, it's still highly unlikely.
He is gone! He has nothing to gain from coming back to Duke. He only has x amount of years to make money playing basketball. He can start those years beginning with next season.
Here is a link from a local to Franklin, OH paper regarding the matter.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...d-facing-big-decision/kWL9nMZQNO2sYehTfnwl9K/
Here is a link from a local to Franklin, OH paper regarding the matter.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...d-facing-big-decision/kWL9nMZQNO2sYehTfnwl9K/
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I am going to state my case here as an AVID LONG TIME DUKE FAN AND FOLLOWER....I am not "close to the program," and wouldnt try to flaunt it if I was.
I merely watched my team this weekend and saw Luke play well below par.....I mean I didnt think Luke could play 2 games in a row that badly. To me he appeared really intimidated and bothered Sunday by a very physical Gamecock defense, and I thought it could very well translate into the pros. (ie., the book on Kennard is to push him around some, bother him, etc and take him out of his game.) A number of other folks I think concurred Luke's performance(s) could have caused his stock to drop somewhat, and make the summer camps much more of a telltale sign as to his value in the draft.
Ultimately a number of us were greeted by a "sorry guys at the end of the day he's gone post." Sounded a bit condescending w/o any background info, and I questioned it. Several others supported my post.THATS IN THE PAST.....
Important thing much more than ALL OF US, is Luke!!! Love the kid and wish him the best no matter his decision. Thats a smart kid and he will make the right move!
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I merely watched my team this weekend and saw Luke play well below par.....I mean I didnt think Luke could play 2 games in a row that badly. To me he appeared really intimidated and bothered Sunday by a very physical Gamecock defense, and I thought it could very well translate into the pros. (ie., the book on Kennard is to push him around some, bother him, etc and take him out of his game.) A number of other folks I think concurred Luke's performance(s) could have caused his stock to drop somewhat, and make the summer camps much more of a telltale sign as to his value in the draft.
Ultimately a number of us were greeted by a "sorry guys at the end of the day he's gone post." Sounded a bit condescending w/o any background info, and I questioned it. Several others supported my post.THATS IN THE PAST.....
Important thing much more than ALL OF US, is Luke!!! Love the kid and wish him the best no matter his decision. Thats a smart kid and he will make the right move!
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You have to be better at not taking things so personal. This is a message board.
I could say it's condescending to Luke to suggest because he has two bad games (and he'll be the first to tell you he did) in a row that suddenly what he did the last four months doesn't count and makes him not ready. Besides, we're not arguing whether he's ready or not, because he's not. Very few 20-year-old's are ready for what he's going up against. But he's put himself in a very attractive situation. In the NBA he'll have the same chance to develop and get better as he does at Duke....and it's probably better because a team is willing to invest millions in him so they're going to follow through in their training.
Like I said, we're fans on a message board. We can say we have Luke best interests in mind, but that's really not true. I want him to come back to Duke because he's really good and it means Duke will be better. I can tell myself all I want it's because I want him to improve his defense, or his quickness, or his strength....all things he can do in the NBA, mind you....but they're talking points. If he's my friend, my kid, a relative or any other scenario....well, I have a really tough time giving him the advice to come back to Duke and play for my favorite team and pass up millions of dollars. That's really what we're doing.
Now, of course, there's the chance Luke does want the opportunity to play another season at Duke and create his own legacy. That's a decision he will make with his family. While there was virtually no chance of Jabari returning, he did struggle with his decision because of those factors....and Luke is a little different because he's not going to be a top-five pick like Jabari.
Again, I don't think the argument here is whether or not he's ready. Few rarely are. It's going to come down to weighing his options, and from my vantage point, the weight is shifted pretty decidedly to one end of the table.
Austin wouldn't of came back in a million years. Kyrie said if he hadn't played again at the end of season he would have seriously considered coming back.. Jabari actually thought about it so we may of had hope that they would but some actually considered it...
Also most thought Grayson would leave last year, mason wouldn't come back his senior year nor would Singler. Heck I remember people thinking JJ would leave after his junior year. Jay Williams came back after winning a ship too (different time obviously)
I think my chief detractor is the one more deserving of your sermon. He was the one who took my verbage so seriously. I agree with your point he will decide with his family, and I mentioned his family yesterday to the poster when i questioned his sources. I directly asked him if he had inside info to the family....Have a nice day dj
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It was probably a detriment to Grayson to have come back this year. His draft stock is probably lower this year than last year. Luke is facing that same decision. His draft stock is probably as high as it will get. Coming back he is subject to injury and not having as good a year as he had this year.
Well, I know for a fact that Luke is either not coming back or he is.
Like I said, toughen up some. Not everyone is going to agree with you.
Enjoy your day, as well.
Brilliant response. You're bitter because he is leaving, but I least I can laugh at it 
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Grayson, IMO, is a whole different situation. He is graduating but I, based on what I have heard, have doubts now that he leaves. Could be way off, so who knows.
Lol I am plenty tough but do appreciate the sound advice from the Guru of Mods here...
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I know why I was banned both times that I've been banned. First time was when I politely disagreed when THR posters were criticizing Coach K for giving Mason Plumlee a huge bear hug after he threw down a huge dunk in a game and the second time I don't remember the specifics but I went there with the intention of getting banned and I'm proud to be banned from that cesspool of a message board as well.
If Grayson comes back and hangs another banner he could down as one of the best to ever put the Duke jersey on. But to deal with crap that places like BSPN spews and incites an entire nation to make him out to be some villain I won't blame him one bit if he leaves regardless of his draft position
We know one thing as well. One might come back but not both ( Allen and Luke).
If Either comes back it is for the reason stated, another ring and a chance to get their name up their with Duke legends.
Imo, Grayson graduating and being able to focus on basketball more might be a key but both are good with me so go get your money boys.
Imo Luke is the less likely of the two that would return. Shoot he is higher then Grayson in the draft and is only a sophomore.
If Either comes back it is for the reason stated, another ring and a chance to get their name up their with Duke legends.
Imo, Grayson graduating and being able to focus on basketball more might be a key but both are good with me so go get your money boys.
Imo Luke is the less likely of the two that would return. Shoot he is higher then Grayson in the draft and is only a sophomore.
Duke writer Al Featherston looks back to Sunday and ahead to next year with thoughts on who may be back, including Luke possibly....
http://www.dukebasketballreport.com...aftermath-duke-south-carolina-ncaa-tournament
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http://www.dukebasketballreport.com...aftermath-duke-south-carolina-ncaa-tournament
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I like Luke but you can't put him with the likes of Laettner, Ferry and Redick after two years playing.
You don't think so? His numbers after 2 are better than JJ
Stop being so damn sensitive. Seriously. If a post does not fit your liking, you piss and moan; just let it go. We are all Duke fans, and I sure as heck do not want to see him leave, but it's pretty apparent to many that he will do just that (and it sucks). No reason to be condescending to others here.